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Whiplash
3/21/2008 11:42:58 AM
I dont hate all cops, but Ive been the victim 3 times and they have done nothing. However they did pull me over for going 110kmh in a 100kmh. Here it doesnt pay off to solve crimes since they wont get any profit from it, so they pull people over for anything possible. Cops in my city think they are above the law which I think is wrong since they are supposed to protect and serve the public, not the other way around.
Those kids in the videos were probably talking **** to the cop and not listening, like all youth today. But both of those cops lost their cool and made themselves look bad because they are idiots. Those cops were most likely jocks in high school and all they could do was either military or police because of their grades.

djuro37
3/21/2008 12:30:42 PM
the police brutality videos are the same ones repeated because 99.9% of the people on youtube are not creative enough to make anythign original... and like in regular news, "nice cop helping old lady cross the street" will never make it on the news... good news doesnt bring in the views like a nice contreversy...

what a ****ing joke. ive never met a "cool" cop. 
 
no wonder no one likes pigs
 
the two most ignorant statements on audiforums!
Khardysius
3/21/2008 12:39:44 PM
I wasn't able to see the videos because my firewall won't allow it.
 
Regardless, in my experiences with police officers they have been pretty cool, even when I was arrested.  When you respect them, they will respect you.
 
There are two incidents that I will always remember though. The cop that proceded to chastise me (once he saw my military ID) for speeding.  Sure it sucked, but it hit home more than a speeding ticket.  This has made a lasting impression and all-in-all a good experience.  This definitely slowed my down and kept me in line, for awhile.
 
The other incident was when I was doing XXX in a 65 zone.  Once I saw him barreling down on me with his lights going I slowed down, changed lanes properly using my indicator, while he was on my bumper the whole time. (he should have gotten the BBK!) Once we stopped he got right out like there was an APB out on me and smacked, yes SMACKED my window with his hand and told me to, "GET THE F*&! OUT OF THE CAR!"  I think he was mad.  He didn't arrest me, but he was livid.  Apparently he can't handle his adrenaline very well.  Anyway, I was in my uniform and he questioned me about the military.  He said I was doing 110, but I told him I couldn't have been doing more than 90. I had the radar detector on and didn't get anything, so he could have only "paced" me.  Which, IMHO, is a crock of donkey balls.
 
Now, I've had better luck with officers in Michigan than in the southern states suchas West Virginia and North Carolina (which is where I live now). I got pulled in Tennessee just over a year ago, but the trooper let me off with a warning after he identified me as a Soldier. Other than the trooper in TN, this leads me to believe that police officers in the south are a bit more hard core and need their ego stroked a bit more often.  This could also have something to do with other variables like age, car I was driving at the time, amount of tickets already received, etc.
 
I've also have the opportunity to work with military police who are city, county, and state police officers back home.  Most of which have type A personalities, very bull-headed, right even when they are wrong, and have PMS three to five days out of the month just like a woman.  Decent guys, but honestly shouldn't be police officers.  One guy specifically says he became a police officer for the sole purpose of having a "you may proceed to park place, if you pass go you may collect $200 dollars" card. Pretty much a Golden Ticket. Is this wrong? IMHO, yes.  It is happening and will continue to happen.  Probably not on a super large scale, but here and there.  To say the least about some of these police officers, it has definitely been a long deployment and I haven't been able to trust some of them even though we are brothers in arms in the war against terror.  Strangely, I would trust them with my life, but not my better interests.  Typically only looking out for themselves, which is not the type of company I usually keep.
 
In regards to the topic at hand, I don't think any of these police officers would choke a girl out or throw a young man down to the ground without good reason.  Good reason would be to save a life, limb, or eyesight. On top of that, the key is to subdue and restrain someone, not to toss them about possibly injuring them or anyone else. I've heard many people explain that the best weapon in a knife fight is a gun.  The problem there is that police officers are getting too reliant on tools and weapons instead of their hands.
 
The proper use of escalation of force is important and they always want to have a higher level of force than their opponent. Granted, if the police officer is out-numbered then it is more important to have a superior stance or higher level of force.  There are procedures for these things, but depending on the situation, they can escalate force however and whenever they "feel" they need to. So really, it all depends on the police officers perception of what is happening. We all know that everyone perceives differently.
 
Ultimately, I don't think all police officers are bad people, but there are always a few.  Most of them are decent people living decent lives working a job that can have its good days and its bad days.  Unfortunately they need to be reminded that, when it comes down to life, they ARE just another citizen like you and me.  I don't hate them.  They do serve a purpose.  The idea of protecting the innocent is for a good cause, but just like great lines from stupid movies, "its the people that are corrupt!"  Or is it stupid lines from great movies?!?
Amze
3/21/2008 2:03:13 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: djuro37

the police brutality videos are the same ones repeated because 99.9% of the people on youtube are not creative enough to make anythign original... and like in regular news, "nice cop helping old lady cross the street" will never make it on the news... good news doesnt bring in the views like a nice contreversy...

what a ****ing joke. ive never met a "cool" cop. 

no wonder no one likes pigs
 
the two most ignorant statements on audiforums!


Good cops exist.. who are smart enough to know when to give you the ticket, or know when to tell you what you're risking and warn you against doing it then let you off. Good cops do exist, who bust the bad guy or help stop actual crime.

But its skateboarding, get in your squad car. Drive somewhere else, that is not a crime worth harrassing someone over.
AZAudiA6Q
3/21/2008 3:41:01 PM
Fact: Skateboarding on private property without permission is trespassing.
Fact: Thosek ids didn't listen and talked back to an officer of the law:
Fact: I can't talk back to my own PARENTS without regretting it.
Fact: Most cops are just doing their jobs and catch a bad wrap for others trangressions.
Fact: If a video surfaced of a kid punching a cop in the face and getting away with it, someone would post it as "the coolest video ever."
 
Not all cops are bad. Actually "bad" isn't the right term. Some are just hardened by certain situations. A rookie cop versus a seasoned captain are way different. I know plent of cops and one is my step-father, yet I still speed around town and litter from time to time and disturb the peace now and again. If I were to be pulled over or cited for these things, it would be my own fault.
 
Now if the cop shot me or something excessive, that's one thing, but when an officer of the law tells you to do something, and you don't and instead offer an explanation, he has the right to make you comply with his request, because for all he knows you are some 16 year old kid could have a weapon and take his life, just like any adult could.
 
The argument that they are children means nothing really. Columbine happened, and those were children. Children, teens, young adults, adults, all are capable of wrong doing, and are punished for doing so.
Notahondaowner
3/21/2008 9:42:56 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: sdsteez

when you search on youtube....

“police brutality” video results 1 - 20 of about 3,580

no wonder no one likes pigs


 
^ Prolly one of the kids from the video. His reasoning is quite "Bob" esque.  The only people who dont like cops are criminals and that's fine with us.
Amze
3/22/2008 12:15:30 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Notahondaowner
^ Prolly one of the kids from the video. His reasoning is quite "Bob" esque.  The only people who dont like cops are criminals and that's fine with us.


LOLOLOL. That is the least true statement I've ever heard.

So many people don't 'like' cops its not funny, i don't like cops and I'm not what I'd call a 'criminal'... occasional speeding.

Watch Dave Chapelle, you have a whole race who hates cops. Its funny you'd even think you're liked, like that.


Dave Chapelle: "You ever have a cop pull up next to you? I don't know about you but I f*cking fall apart!" His skits on cops are hilarious.
scotts custom
3/22/2008 12:16:01 AM
i hate cops too, i was at this sweet 18 party earlier tonight, and first they parked around the whole house (huge house) then one came up and the complete wrong time, some kid said "yo that kid is drunk" to one of his friends, than the cop said something into his walky talky and then they all raided the place. Every body bounced!!! i was so lucky i stepped outside and say that go down, or i wouldnt be talking to you right now... Bad Piggies!!!
zrwhat
3/22/2008 12:52:02 AM
my cpu virus wont let me watch
but on that note, I actually had a cop help me OUT of a ticket before, and it was one that was going to put me in jail
 
 
but ya, they suck :P
Nocturnal_A62.7
3/22/2008 6:37:31 AM
My 2 cents.
 
Cops are not bad, but are human just like us. The officers dealing with idiots (like the ones in video) everyday, may get out of control sometimes, and I can understand...because they probably meet idiots 5 times in a day, everyday.
 
Everyone is so concerned about the kids skateboarding on the video, but what would your thoughts will be ..when they jump with a skate board in front of your car, damaging it, getting themselves and you in danger, and not to forget giving you unnecessary legal tension about nothing. I am sure in that situation most of us will say 'why can't these stupid teenagers die?'. And those of you who refer to cops as 'pigs' will be dialing 911 the very first moment.
 
Skateboarding is fun, but govt. has provided parks and other recreational places for it. You don't have to do it in place of business and street side, putting others in danger. Unless, you want to draw attention and show how cool you are (which btw, only shows how retarded they are).
 
If you want to call them 'pigs', that's fine but then stick to that attitude and don't call them when you someone breaks into your house, or steal your Audi.
 
I, respect cops because without them we won't be able to enjoy the simplest of the things. You either accept the police, or not. You can't just call them 'pigs' and call them for help when you need them. That is so wrong.
 
Again, I am not here offend anyone, just my 2 cents.
 
 
 
Whiplash
3/22/2008 12:25:30 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7



If you want to call them 'pigs', that's fine but then stick to that attitude and don't call them when you someone breaks into your house, or steal your Audi.






Thats the reason I hate them. Someone broke into my car, stole my wallet. Used my credit card at the mall. I called the store where it was used and the manager said he has about 5 minutes of them walking around the store. I called the police and told them that there is a video of the people.

Its been a year and a half and the cops havent even looked at the tape. Now that is ****ing bullshit. How much easier does it get then me finding out about this tape and asking them to look at it? Not much easier...

Cops dont give a **** about me because they wont make any money by catching the kids who stole my wallet and broke into my car. They just want more new meagnums and chargers so they can flick their lights to go through an intersection and straight into a tim hortons.
Notahondaowner
3/22/2008 1:19:22 PM
Sigh, unbelievable. I'm not even bothering with this thread anymore.
MrFlippant
3/22/2008 1:25:17 PM
I'm not sure who pisses me off more - the cops in videos like that, or those obnoxious little skateboard brats. There's a gang of them that come around my work every now and then, bunch of losers. Most of them are actually in their twenties or so, to look at them. Not sure how they've managed to avoid getting a life by now and stopping skateboarding all over our PRIVATE PROPERTY, scuffing and cracking all the cement and landscaping. I enjoy watching them, if only for the chance to see one fall and break a bone or something. Cops in this town are alright; they don't bother going after you for petty crap unless you're being really obnoxious. Even then, they're more than likely to just roll their eyes at you, tell you you're being obnoxious, write you a ticket, and send you on your merry way.
 
It's the suburbs you've got to look out for - one of them, Windsor Heights, has a "zero-tolerance" policy for speeding, coupled with posted speed limits about 10mph below what they would be anywhere else. They WILL pull you over for going 26 in a 25 zone. On a road which is a 35mph zone everywhere except the half-mile stretch where it passes through Windsor Heights.
 
My worst experience with a cop was once when I got in an accident in my MG. Some doofus cut me off and I had to slam on the brakes to stop and avoid hitting him, then like ten seconds after I had stopped, some other doofus obliterated the front of his Chrysler using my rear bumper. The responding police officer (from another suburb, Urbandale) came to the conclusion that somehow it was my fault, and wrote me a ticket for "sudden decelleration", saying, "I've got to give SOMEBODY a ticket in this situation." Of course, he came to this conclusion and wrote the ticket BEFORE hearing my side of the story, and once I explained what happened, he suddenly seemed to reconsider his decision - posthumously, since he couldn't retract the ticket. Obviously I challenged the ticket, and somewhat conveniently, he was sent out of town for unspecified "police business" on the court date.
rhynolite
3/22/2008 1:45:05 PM
Here's one of those police officers who can keep his cool.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k9yIBOnbJjY

I'll pray that he's the one pulling me over instead of those other guys.
Amze
3/22/2008 1:59:55 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: rhynolite

Here's one of those police officers who can keep his cool.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=k9yIBOnbJjY

I'll pray that he's the one pulling me over instead of those other guys.




Haha what a beast.

He actuall acted like a real human, and not a prick in a uniform.

We need more of those cops.
Nocturnal_A62.7
3/22/2008 2:05:01 PM
It's a shame that the profession, which deserves the respect, is runned down because few incidents make people believe what is not true and disrespect the entire force.
 
Thousands of Offficers those who died on the line of duty, what was it? They died on their duty to keep us safe, and this is what you call them in return?
 
It's a shame that instead of calling the drug dealers, mafia, murderers, and gang bangers, you are calling 'pig' to the very people those who protects you from these criminals.
 
This is not the world I knew.
 
 
tdn
3/22/2008 2:19:33 PM
I have a lot of respect for law enforement, not all of them, but most. I won't stoop so low to label all or most law enforcers bad because a few pricks made it threw.
Whiplash
3/22/2008 3:47:24 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

It's a shame that the profession, which deserves the respect, is runned down because few incidents make people believe what is not true and disrespect the entire force.

Thousands of Offficers those who died on the line of duty, what was it? They died on their duty to keep us safe, and this is what you call them in return?

It's a shame that instead of calling the drug dealers, mafia, murderers, and gang bangers, you are calling 'pig' to the very people those who protects you from these criminals.

This is not the world I knew.




Its a shame that police has done nothing to get rid of mafia, merderers, and gang bangers here. Until I see the police actually do something good, I will continue to hate them.
Amze
3/22/2008 4:15:11 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

It's a shame that the profession, which deserves the respect, is runned down because few incidents make people believe what is not true and disrespect the entire force.

Thousands of Offficers those who died on the line of duty, what was it? They died on their duty to keep us safe, and this is what you call them in return?

It's a shame that instead of calling the drug dealers, mafia, murderers, and gang bangers, you are calling 'pig' to the very people those who protects you from these criminals.

This is not the world I knew.




Hardly.. hardly. I see Chandler, AZ multiplying its force when the crime rate is low. All that happens here, is more and more tickets...

Police don't even mess with the run down areas where crime is actually heavy. I know its dangerous.. but if you wanna serve what you claim to want to serve then that risk is gonna be there.
Nocturnal_A62.7
3/22/2008 5:14:31 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Notahondaowner

Sigh, unbelievable. I'm not even bothering with this thread anymore.

 
I should have taken your path long time back.
vnv727
3/23/2008 3:11:58 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: zrwhat

my cpu virus wont let me watch
but on that note, I actually had a cop help me OUT of a ticket before, and it was one that was going to put me in jail


but ya, they suck :P


first off, glad to see you around again hope everything is going well

second, your a hot girl.....no wonder he helped yah out
Whiplash
3/23/2008 4:41:37 PM
Yes, another fine example.
Red_sapphire89
3/23/2008 9:00:54 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Notahondaowner

Sigh, unbelievable. I'm not even bothering with this thread anymore.

Thats because you sir are one of those dick head cops and i don't even need to know you to tell that!
Amze
3/23/2008 9:55:52 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Red_sapphire89

quote:

ORIGINAL: Notahondaowner

Sigh, unbelievable. I'm not even bothering with this thread anymore.

Thats because you sir are one of those dick head cops and i don't even need to know you to tell that!



I got a feeling that call is probably right.

Notahondaowner, you come off as a hardass. But its very tough to tell online, cause im a dick but all ofsocal loves me in person
Notahondaowner
3/23/2008 10:38:40 PM
     Actually I'm one of the most easy going officer's on my department. I don't like to bother with this thread becaused it's based on rash generalizations and poor judgement calls. It actually makes me a bit sad that so many of you "hate" cops. I am quite tame with people on this forum and do my best to keep my composure even in threads such as this one. This thread is a prime reason why I created my main thread here where you can ask general police questions and I do my best to answer to help you understand why departments treat matters in the ways that they do. I know there are officers out there who are totally out of line, I have seen them, heard of them, and worked beside them. Perhaps some of you have encountered more than one officer who treated you poorly, but to say you hate all officers because of them and think they should die is one of the most immature statements I have read on this forum. Most of us, police, are here to help you; yes even you folk who tell us you think we should die etc.
    So that's fine you can sit there and type that you think I am these negative things, off what comments I have made that you are getting this feeling I am unsure, but I assure you my first sentence remains quite true. Just remember it's attitudes like those that are being displayed here by some that will guarantee your encounter with police will be negative because you are coming into the encounter with a negative attitude. Hopefully you will never need our services, but if you do I pray that it will be a positive experience. Personally I feel that a good portion of this is that you have a chance to talk negatively directly to an officer while behind a computer screen, I ask myself how secure a person must be if this how they validate themselves. If anyone would like to have a conversation with valid points I am always open to conversation, but when I read arguments such as: Crime still exists so what good are police, why bother? People slam police officers saying we don't do enough. Ask yourself this, "What have I personally done to prevent crime?". Most officers devote our lives to stopping crime, if you think we do it for the pay you are sadly mistaken. It is easy to complain on crime rates when you have no concept of what officer's jobs entail when placing criminals into our awful legal systems. Policing by far is one of the most hated professions when most of the population has only a slight idea of what the job really entails. The things most officers will have to endure in their professions are burdens I wouldn't want to place on more than half the criminals I have arrested.
   In essence, please don't be so quick to stereotype an officer based on your experiences with a few, what you saw on tv, internet, etc. I know most of the people who already commented negatively here won't take anything away from this post. I have confidence in the fact that many on this forum are decent intelligent people and will understand where I am coming from with this post, I know this because I don't focus on threads like this where the negative posters come out of the woodwork.
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