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discontained
4/13/2008 8:56:14 AM
    Hi everyone, i just got my intercooler and I have a couple questions. 
First off, the diverter valve, is there  a way to plug it to run a 50/50 recirv BOV since mine d/v is dead and i have a TurboXS bov that been laying around for a few months and Was wondering do i put it on the COLD or HOT side of the Intercooler.

Second. The MAP sensor; where is the best location to weld a bung for it? Strait or curved pipe does it matter?

Last but not least.... Whats a good size piping to go with? I have a k04 upgrade, and giac chip, with full custom exhaust and a custom made catless downpipe..


Thanks guys, also this BOV is audi friendly as its 50/50 recirc and i dont plan on making the ricer sound for to long :]


pimphell
4/13/2008 9:23:55 AM
First off, put the bov closer to the TB (the cold side).  It is better that way.  The same with the Map sensor, put it closer to the TB,  but not too close maybe a foot away or two so it can read the boost more efficiant.  2 1/2" or 3" pipeing would work best.
UpstateNYA4
4/13/2008 9:28:03 AM
I'd weld onto a straight section of pipe too - that way there's a better chance of a good weld and not so much "fill" welding to do under the flange, inside the bend.  Ultimately any position would work though, and space considerations matter - if you have to, put it as close to the TB as it'll fit.
discontained
4/13/2008 9:35:29 AM
right on .. thanks guys

also so dont worry about the D/V loctaion and just delete it?

oh yea and my other question.. what the heck is that pump under the pass headlight? I belive its a Secondair air something can i delete it?
cincyTT
4/13/2008 9:36:43 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: pimphell

First off, put the bov closer to the TB (the cold side).  It is better that way.  The same with the Map sensor, put it closer to the TB,  but not too close maybe a foot away or two so it can read the boost more efficiant.  2 1/2" or 3" pipeing would work best.

 
Are you HIGH?!?!  Nothing you ever say is right.  You taking tuner classes from kemp?
 
The map just needs placed post ic.  A strait peice would be best.  2-2.25" piping is best.
cincyTT
4/13/2008 9:39:42 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: discontained

right on .. thanks guys

also so dont worry about the D/V loctaion and just delete it?

oh yea and my other question.. what the heck is that pump under the pass headlight? I belive its a Secondair air something can i delete it?


 
You can place the dv/bov where ever you like.  You arent using a turbo large enough to see a differnce is placement.  Do whats easiest for you.
 
that is the sai pump.  You can delete it, but not if you have emissions.  Also, if you live in a place with cold winters, move it since it will warm the car up far faster than w/o it.
discontained
4/13/2008 9:42:13 AM
Ok cool thanks cincy :D no emmisions here, and its southern georgia so not to cold winter's.  

Appreciate your input. here's a "e beer" for ya
cincyTT
4/13/2008 9:50:46 AM
Thanks.  Then feel free to remove the sai.  you will need a egr block off plate and resistor from 20squared.  This will keep you from throwing a cel and drop a few pounds while your at it
pimphell
4/13/2008 8:18:46 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

quote:

ORIGINAL: pimphell

First off, put the bov closer to the TB (the cold side).  It is better that way.  The same with the Map sensor, put it closer to the TB,  but not too close maybe a foot away or two so it can read the boost more efficiant.  2 1/2" or 3" pipeing would work best.


Are you HIGH?!?!  Nothing you ever say is right.  You taking tuner classes from kemp?

The map just needs placed post ic.  A strait peice would be best.  2-2.25" piping is best.

 
Wow, I think that you need to go to school or something.  Map post IC???? WTF???  Why, so you can have boost levels before the pressure drop of the IC?  Maybe you should listen to this kemp guy then.  If you compare me to this guy.
pimphell
4/13/2008 8:21:50 PM
Remember.......I have nothing to prove to anyone here.......Just trying to help others.  You should keep your comments to yourself sometimes.  You DON'T know it all........
cincyTT
4/13/2008 8:30:12 PM
LOL, you try to bash me and you just look stupid.  Post = after.

I love when turds like you try to give advise and when corrected make themselves look worse.  Yep, run a 3" ic piping and see how well your car runs.  You REALLY shouldnt try to give advise on things you have 0 idea about.  Oh, and i know i dont know it all, just far more than you apparently.
pimphell
4/14/2008 11:49:46 AM
That's funny that the stock location of the map sensor is on top of the ic after?  As for the 3" ic pipe, why not upgrade so you don't have to later for future mods?
turbo kraut
4/14/2008 12:23:45 PM
here is my thrust sensor...... as the dealership calls it..... or map, as you guys are calling it... the sensor that sits on top of the factory intercooler



it is after the intercooler, before the tb

as for the dv..... you can put it over by the tb, or leave it in the stock placement.....as cincy said, yes you can move/remove your sap..... mine was moved over to the stock ic location as i have emissions
turbo kraut
4/14/2008 12:26:10 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: pimphell

That's funny that the stock location of the map sensor is on top of the ic after?  As for the 3" ic pipe, why not upgrade so you don't have to later for future mods?

cause he is running a ko4, which is also worthless....... but if he decides to upgrade to a better turbo, ic piping should not be overly expensive


and if he has a cheap ebay ic, then he will need to upgrade everything anyways


and it is funny that you put cincy making fun of you in your sig?.... why?.... so everyone that respects his opinion will make fun of you too....... or just not listen to you at all?

funny thing is, you are a combo of travis kemp and bob1432352452354
chaos92287
4/14/2008 2:22:01 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: pimphell

That's funny that the stock location of the map sensor is on top of the ic after?  As for the 3" ic pipe, why not upgrade so you don't have to later for future mods?


post intercooler means after the core, which is exactly where the stock one is. so you aren't really making a good argument here. and 3" is excessive for practically any setup. most BT setups only use 2.5". hell, the throttle body isn't even 3"
A4speed
4/14/2008 2:34:45 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: pimphell

quote:

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

quote:

ORIGINAL: pimphell

First off, put the bov closer to the TB (the cold side).  It is better that way.  The same with the Map sensor, put it closer to the TB,  but not too close maybe a foot away or two so it can read the boost more efficiant.  2 1/2" or 3" pipeing would work best.


Are you HIGH?!?!  Nothing you ever say is right.  You taking tuner classes from kemp?

The map just needs placed post ic.  A strait peice would be best.  2-2.25" piping is best.


Wow, I think that you need to go to school or something.  Map post IC???? WTF???  Why, so you can have boost levels before the pressure drop of the IC?  Maybe you should listen to this kemp guy then.  If you compare me to this guy.


haha, funniest thing ive heard on here in awhile, he has no idea

dude, cincy is right, you weld the flange post FMIC and there is no way he should ever go above 2.5" for the piping.  cincy is on the money 2-2.25" for his setup.
pimphell
4/14/2008 3:17:54 PM
my bad for the meaning of post.  We were apparently talking about the same thing.  That was a dee-da-dee.  As for the plumming, why do it twice if you know what you want later?  saves money that way.  Telling someone something in anticipation of what could come is how things should work sometimes.  3" is not that bad.  If he keeps the ko4 then he should stay with the 2.25" or 2.5".
pimphell
4/14/2008 3:27:44 PM
I showed a couple of people at a automotive college for tuners this post and they laughed for what is said like: I don't know anything. LOL  I have friends in many places around the tuning, car repair, and car engineering industry.  Ever heard of superflow?  Yeh, there home base is in colorado.  They design some of the equipment like dyno's and such. I think that some people that are in these fourms should go to school or somethings instead of indulging themselves in forums thinking they "know" what is best sometimes.  I do agree with a lot of things that are said here but, others I really wonder sometimes.  I've had nothing but good things to say about these fourms.  Hell, you guys have saved me time at one point or another.  So to bash my knowledge, you have no idea where to begin, it's been tried by others in person.  I don't know it all and I don't pretend to like others.  I will say this, I have tuned quite a few cars in my time and do know some things are better than others.
pimphell
4/14/2008 3:31:34 PM
The sig is because I don't like conceded  people that get their jollys off of thinking that they know everything and no elses opinion matters because they are always right
cincyTT
4/14/2008 4:22:12 PM
No, i said that because every time you post something, IT IS WRONG!  Not my opinion, FACT.  Since you dont know, ill help you out with ic piping diam
 
2" < 250whp
2.25" 200-350whp
2.5" 350-450whp
 
Think you get the hint.  It is also good to go a .25" increase post ic to increase flow.  He would need to be running a gt35r to warrent 3" ic piping.  That is with 2.5" to the ic.
 
Now please, dont go running your mouth again when you have 0 knowledge about it. 
A4speed
4/14/2008 4:23:27 PM
we aren't really making fun of your knowledge, there are people on here who have tuned so many 1.8T's and other audi/vw that in this case we simply just disagree with you.  with 3" piping, your going to be loosing psi and you need that pressure.  piping is cheap to replace so if he does upgrade his turbo he can do it then.

cincy, chaos, and others know a lot about what to do because they have done it and the topic has been discussed a lot as well.  you can know a lot about cars and nothing about a certain subject, and we are just disagreeing with u on this one.

and lastly, just don't say stuff when you don't know whats going on (kemp thing).  a lot of us know what hes talking about but the newer guys don't so when you argue back on it, it will become more funny.

hope this settles everything.
klum00
4/14/2008 5:25:06 PM
speaking of, what ever happened to Kemp?
cincyTT
4/14/2008 6:07:14 PM
last week he said something about losing his license.  We will see how that goes since he said he had a "plan"
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