FasterA4ThanUrs
3/3/2008 3:03:03 PM
wheres the best place to order one from for my car..?
cincyTT
3/3/2008 3:04:55 PM
Pagparts.com. You can choose from 270 or 360 thrust bearings. Plus i cant find anyone selling a 50trim for less than $625 now. About 6+ months ago you could get them along with the 57 and 60trim for $575 for the 270 bearings.
Leifer
3/3/2008 3:15:55 PM
You might wanna look into the 57trim. It's cheaper, and can handle the same power at a lower boost.
cincyTT
3/3/2008 3:18:05 PM
But he has a manual. He can boost far more than you can/will. The 57trim will surge at about 20-22psi. SInce you wont run that much, its fine for you. He can run a 50trim to 30+psi if he wants.
chaos92287
3/3/2008 3:45:29 PM
boostfactory or 20 squared is cheaper.
cincyTT
3/3/2008 3:51:53 PM
Bf = $625
20sq = $619 ($6)
Like i said, $625 is about as cheap as i have seen them. BF used to sell them for $575 not to long ago
chaos92287
3/3/2008 3:54:07 PM
well pagparts is 785/845 so i thought i'd mention those 2.
cincyTT
3/3/2008 4:03:00 PM
LOL, those are T04's. The t3t4's are $639.
And the only reason i said them is because its the only place i know that lets you choose the 360 thrust bearings. These oil better and to some people, that extra $50 would be worth it. Not to mention Arnold is a great asset to the VAG community
cincyTT
3/3/2008 4:05:21 PM
From Turbo Mag
The 270 vs. 360 Dilemma Many conventional journal- bearing turbos use a 270-degree thrust-bearing washer (at left), while the new breed of conventional and ball-bearing turbos employ 360-degree thrust bearings. The advantages of a 360-degree bearing include a full circle of lubrication, six orifices on the washer instead of three for the 270-degree unit, and an updated pad strategy to better disperse oil where it's needed. Turbonetics uses 360-degree bearings on all of its T04B and T04E turbochargers. There isn't much of a dilemma here; if you have the opportunity to use a 360-degree bearing, jump at it.
FasterA4ThanUrs
3/3/2008 4:12:36 PM
and if i get a tial 38mm, what bar should i be looking for?
cincyTT
3/3/2008 4:15:26 PM
Depends on what psi you plan on running. The higher the psi, the faster it will spool but the lowest you can set it. Most stick with a 7psi-1bar spring and tune from there.
FasterA4ThanUrs
3/3/2008 4:18:41 PM
cincyTT
3/3/2008 4:20:53 PM
7psi - 14.5psi. Is that a little more clear? Sorry
FasterA4ThanUrs
3/3/2008 4:30:00 PM
cincy, you thing the 034 tube mani is worth the 900 dollar price tag?
cincyTT
3/3/2008 4:36:29 PM
Depends. If you want a fast spooling turbo and worry free driving, i would go with a nice cast manifold. If you dont mind a tiny bit more lag and much more top end, a tube manifold will make a huge differnce. Plus if you go with that, you really should go with a .63 housing so you can optimize flow.
Here is a good chart to show the differnce between log and tube.
GT30R
Compressor 76.2mm, 56 Trim .60 ar
Turbine 60mm, 84 Trim, .82 a/r
AER Stadalone Management (England)
Both Pulls @ 23.5 psi
Superflow Engine Dyno
Full Race hp - red
tq - teal
ATP hp - blue
tq - green
FasterA4ThanUrs
3/3/2008 5:11:19 PM
is that the down pipe setup i should get with the tube mani? Will the car still pass emissions you think, if i get two o2 sensor holes?
cincyTT
3/3/2008 5:13:39 PM
If you have a decent cat welded on, you should pass emissions. Yes they sell the dp for like $250 on the website