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Amze
1/31/2008 12:21:50 AM
Ok.. ever since I got my car chipped this has happened. Part of the time anyway (And even if its not happening.. the power still comes on rough and doesn't feel so smooth), help me figure out what it is.

Ok.. when I'm in 2nd and 3rd gear *usually* and I gas it from 2k.. turbo spooling right? Car going no where, RPM's between 2.7k and 3.5k sorta stick and then I hear POPOPOP out of my exhaust. Sounds nasty.. and it feels very JERKY. What could be the cause of this? Its really f*cked.. at first the guy thought it might be the cheap 91 market gas I used.. but it has a full tank of shell now. and the problem hasnt gone away. Suggestions?

It literally like.. I gas it and it doesn't move it spools and the RPMS barely go up, and then my exhaust starts making pops and its reluctant as fu*k to pull the car. Its terrible.. happened ever since I got it chipped. Revo..
khj677turbo
1/31/2008 12:25:12 AM
Backfires i think, you have an exhaust right? I think i remember reading you do...
Amze
1/31/2008 12:33:32 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: khj677turbo

Backfires i think, you have an exhaust right? I think i remember reading you do...



Yeah but this is worse than just backfiring I think... if thats even what it is im technically doing.

Mods go as follows: Borla Exhaust, Lltek Intake, Forge BOV, Revo Stage 1 Chip.
turbo kraut
1/31/2008 5:51:42 AM
did you change plugs?
m5racer
1/31/2008 6:21:26 AM
wow that really sucks, ya i would maby check even repalce the plugs and see hwo that goes. it wouldent hurt to throw a can of seafoam in the gas tank next time u fill up to. 
patty AT forge
1/31/2008 8:14:49 AM
Do the test outlined in this pdf to see if the DV is ok:
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/media/valve_service(1).pdf

Also check your coil packs and perform a boost leak test.
cincyTT
1/31/2008 10:08:17 AM
its no big deal, his plugs are gapped to big.  They are either stock or grown larger.  Once he gaps them to .028 he will be fine.  If he still has a problem, then its his boost control
Amze
1/31/2008 6:07:00 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

its no big deal, his plugs are gapped to big.  They are either stock or grown larger.  Once he gaps them to .028 he will be fine.  If he still has a problem, then its his boost control


So you think its my plugs Cincy? Alright man, and yes theyre stock.. how do i gap them to 0.28?

Because this makes my chip zero fun, sometimes it runs alright and doesn't pop but even if its not popping its still wayy jerky and I hate how the power feels.

Should I upgrade my plugs, what will that cost?
cincyTT
1/31/2008 6:23:01 PM
YOu just need to gap them down with either a feeler gauge or gap ring.  You can get either at the parts store or walmart.  The coin is like $1.  You basically tap the tip on a hard surface and then measure.  If its to big, do it again, if its to small, pull it open slowly until its to correct size.  No need to change the plugs until the old ones are done. 
Amze
1/31/2008 6:49:10 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

YOu just need to gap them down with either a feeler gauge or gap ring.  You can get either at the parts store or walmart.  The coin is like $1.  You basically tap the tip on a hard surface and then measure.  If its to big, do it again, if its to small, pull it open slowly until its to correct size.  No need to change the plugs until the old ones are done. 


Alright thanks man, appreciate your help Cincy. You's da man. I'll do that and let you know how it goes!
chaos92287
1/31/2008 6:53:48 PM
definitely change your plugs before you blow a coilpack. you could get the f6dtc's and not have to gap them at all, and they last twice as long as the ngk's
Amze
1/31/2008 7:30:51 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

definitely change your plugs before you blow a coilpack. you could get the f6dtc's and not have to gap them at all, and they last twice as long as the ngk's


http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-021&Category_Code=VVWIG

Those chaos? Really.. I might just do that..
cincyTT
1/31/2008 7:50:57 PM
how are they 6's and heat range colder that stock 1.8t's?  You gotta love ATP sometimes.
Amze
1/31/2008 7:53:14 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

how are they 6's and heat range colder that stock 1.8t's?  You gotta love ATP sometimes.


haha.. but would those do what chaos said.. Fix my problem and last longer? because for 6 bucks I would do that.

What you think cicny?
cincyTT
1/31/2008 8:05:25 PM
thats $6/plug or $24/set.  The ngk's are $2/plug or $8/set.  Even if you change them 2x as often, the ngk's are still cheaper.
 
your problem is the gap, not brand
Amze
1/31/2008 8:10:34 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

thats $6/plug or $24/set.  The ngk's are $2/plug or $8/set.  Even if you change them 2x as often, the ngk's are still cheaper.

your problem is the gap, not brand


Yeah i got ya, but isnt the http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-021&Category_Code=VVWIG

already gapped correctly?
cincyTT
1/31/2008 8:14:28 PM
Never install plugs w/o measuring the gap.  Thats even if you are told they are right when you buy them.  The gaps can easily change in shipping, packaging or handaling.
chaos92287
1/31/2008 8:45:39 PM
you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?searchstring=f6dtc&searchqt=byvehicle&make=Audi&model=B5+A4&submodel=Quattro&engine=1.8T

at 3 bucks a pop, its more worth it. buy a couple sets and that should last you for quite a long time.
Amze
1/31/2008 9:54:34 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?searchstring=f6dtc&searchqt=byvehicle&make=Audi&model=B5+A4&submodel=Quattro&engine=1.8T

at 3 bucks a pop, its more worth it. buy a couple sets and that should last you for quite a long time.



I just bought 4 of em.. thanks a bunch chaos...

So you both feel that should definitely stop the popping and make the power come on smooth?

For now I'm gonna go easy on it, and stay out of boost.. I Dont wanna ruin my coilpacks. I did 2 day shipping so I should have them Saturday. MOnday at worst
Rhinop21
1/31/2008 10:04:05 PM
Why dont you go outside and at least gap the stock ones to .028 it  takes 10 minutes.
chaos92287
1/31/2008 10:11:48 PM
^+1 the tool is only $1
cincyTT
1/31/2008 10:23:09 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and

 
That has to be the dumbest thing i have heard in a while.  He would need to run like 8 or 9's and gapped extremely low.  I would highly doubt with his car he would just slap on some plugs and go.
Amze
1/31/2008 10:41:56 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Rhinop21

Why dont you go outside and at least gap the stock ones to .028 it  takes 10 minutes.


Don't have the tool.. but I'll pick it up.. guess I gotta gap them anyway. haha!

Cincy > *


Amze
1/31/2008 10:46:25 PM
Whats this tool named anyway?
chaos92287
1/31/2008 11:30:42 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

quote:

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and


That has to be the dumbest thing i have heard in a while.  He would need to run like 8 or 9's and gapped extremely low.  I would highly doubt with his car he would just slap on some plugs and go.


http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175233&page=2

post #38
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Odd, those shouldn't ever need to be gapped. I run those straight out of the box running 32psi and I know 034 runs them on their cars that push 40psi.



i dont keep promoting these plugs for no reason
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