Ok.. ever since I got my car chipped this has happened. Part of the time anyway (And even if its not happening.. the power still comes on rough and doesn't feel so smooth), help me figure out what it is.

Ok.. when I'm in 2nd and 3rd gear *usually* and I gas it from 2k.. turbo spooling right? Car going no where, RPM's between 2.7k and 3.5k sorta stick and then I hear POPOPOP out of my exhaust. Sounds nasty.. and it feels very JERKY. What could be the cause of this? Its really f*cked.. at first the guy thought it might be the cheap 91 market gas I used.. but it has a full tank of shell now. and the problem hasnt gone away. Suggestions?

It literally like.. I gas it and it doesn't move it spools and the RPMS barely go up, and then my exhaust starts making pops and its reluctant as fu*k to pull the car. Its terrible.. happened ever since I got it chipped. Revo.. :(

Backfires i think, you have an exhaust right? I think i remember reading you do...

ORIGINAL: khj677turbo

Backfires i think, you have an exhaust right? I think i remember reading you do...



Yeah but this is worse than just backfiring I think... if thats even what it is im technically doing.

Mods go as follows: Borla Exhaust, Lltek Intake, Forge BOV, Revo Stage 1 Chip.

did you change plugs?

wow that really sucks, ya i would maby check even repalce the plugs and see hwo that goes. it wouldent hurt to throw a can of seafoam in the gas tank next time u fill up to.

Do the test outlined in this pdf to see if the DV is ok:
http://www.forgemotorsport.com/media/valve_service(1).pdf (http://www.forgemotorsport.com/media/valve_service%281%29.pdf)

Also check your coil packs and perform a boost leak test.

its no big deal, his plugs are gapped to big. They are either stock or grown larger. Once he gaps them to .028 he will be fine. If he still has a problem, then its his boost control

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

its no big deal, his plugs are gapped to big. They are either stock or grown larger. Once he gaps them to .028 he will be fine. If he still has a problem, then its his boost control


So you think its my plugs Cincy? Alright man, and yes theyre stock.. how do i gap them to 0.28?

Because this makes my chip zero fun, sometimes it runs alright and doesn't pop but even if its not popping its still wayy jerky and I hate how the power feels.

Should I upgrade my plugs, what will that cost?

YOu just need to gap them down with either a feeler gauge or gap ring. You can get either at the parts store or walmart. The coin is like $1. You basically tap the tip on a hard surface and then measure. If its to big, do it again, if its to small, pull it open slowly until its to correct size. No need to change the plugs until the old ones are done.

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

YOu just need to gap them down with either a feeler gauge or gap ring. You can get either at the parts store or walmart. The coin is like $1. You basically tap the tip on a hard surface and then measure. If its to big, do it again, if its to small, pull it open slowly until its to correct size. No need to change the plugs until the old ones are done.


Alright thanks man, appreciate your help Cincy. You's da man. I'll do that and let you know how it goes!:D

definitely change your plugs before you blow a coilpack. you could get the f6dtc's and not have to gap them at all, and they last twice as long as the ngk's

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

definitely change your plugs before you blow a coilpack. you could get the f6dtc's and not have to gap them at all, and they last twice as long as the ngk's


http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-021&Category_Code=VVWIG

Those chaos? Really.. I might just do that..

how are they 6's and heat range colder that stock 1.8t's? You gotta love ATP sometimes.

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

how are they 6's and heat range colder that stock 1.8t's? You gotta love ATP sometimes.


haha.. but would those do what chaos said.. Fix my problem and last longer? because for 6 bucks I would do that.

What you think cicny?

thats $6/plug or $24/set. The ngk's are $2/plug or $8/set. Even if you change them2x as often, the ngk's are still cheaper.

your problem is the gap, not brand

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

thats $6/plug or $24/set. The ngk's are $2/plug or $8/set. Even if you change them2x as often, the ngk's are still cheaper.

your problem is the gap, not brand


Yeah i got ya, but isnt the http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-VVW-021&Category_Code=VVWIG

already gapped correctly?

Never install plugs w/o measuring the gap. Thats even if you are told they are right when you buy them. The gaps can easily change in shipping, packaging or handaling.

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?searchstring=f6dtc&searchqt=byveh icle&make=Audi&model=B5+A4&submodel=Quattro&engine =1.8T

at 3 bucks a pop, its more worth it. buy a couple sets and that should last you for quite a long time.

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?searchstring=f6dtc&searchqt=byveh icle&make=Audi&model=B5+A4&submodel=Quattro&engine =1.8T

at 3 bucks a pop, its more worth it. buy a couple sets and that should last you for quite a long time.



I just bought 4 of em.. thanks a bunch chaos...

So you both feel that should definitely stop the popping and make the power come on smooth?

For now I'm gonna go easy on it, and stay out of boost.. I Dont wanna ruin my coilpacks. I did 2 day shipping so I should have them Saturday. MOnday at worst[:@]

Why dont you go outside and at least gap the stock ones to .028 it takes 10 minutes.

^+1 the tool is only $1

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and


That has to be the dumbest thing i have heard in a while. He would need to run like 8 or 9's and gapped extremely low. I would highly doubt with his car he would just slap on some plugs and go.

ORIGINAL: Rhinop21

Why dont you go outside and at least gap the stock ones to .028 it takes 10 minutes.


Don't have the tool.. but I'll pick it up.. guess I gotta gap them anyway. haha!

Cincy > *

:D

Whats this tool named anyway?

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and


That has to be the dumbest thing i have heard in a while. He would need to run like 8 or 9's and gapped extremely low. I would highly doubt with his car he would just slap on some plugs and go.


http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175233&page=2

post #38

Odd, those shouldn't ever need to be gapped. I run those straight out of the box running 32psi and I know 034 runs them on their cars that push 40psi.


i dont keep promoting these plugs for no reason

ORIGINAL: Amze

Whats this tool named anyway?


gapping tool. it should be right in the front along with all those little 1 time packets of anti-seize and other $1 stuff

http://www.royalenfieldusa.com/images/SPARK%20PLUG%20GAPPER.jpg

Thanks x2 chaos.. but maybe I dont even need to gap it.. Should I just do it to be safe? What you think?

i've never gapped mine and never had a problem. i don't even know what the gap actually is on them. guess you could measure the gap of the 3 electrodes and make sure they're the same all around, but that seems kind of anal to me lol

just get the tool and measure the gap. like cincy said they chould have changed and whats the point of running new plugs if they are gaped wrong. that puts you back in square 1 with your problems. just chekc and go. let me know if you need my help although im kind of a long ways away from you

Alright.. Thanks a bunch Jeff. I'll PM you if I need help[8D]

Because you have never gapped your plugs and someone else has never had a problem does not mean you should install plugs without checking the gap size on them... ALWAYS check the gap of any new plug you put in your car. Why would you not do that? It takes 30 seconds.

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ORIGINAL: chaos92287

you don't ever have to gap the f6dtc. mike hood runs them in his a4 without gapping them. and


That has to be the dumbest thing i have heard in a while. He would need to run like 8 or 9's and gapped extremely low. I would highly doubt with his car he would just slap on some plugs and go.


http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175233&page=2

post #38

Odd, those shouldn't ever need to be gapped. I run those straight out of the box running 32psi and I know 034 runs them on their cars that push 40psi.


i dont keep promoting these plugs for no reason



Its not the plug, its the not gapping part. That is the dumbest thing ever. You have a built motor and a bunch of misfires and detination could ruin it very quickly. It takes 2 mins to do all 4.

ORIGINAL: Amze

Thanks x2 chaos.. but maybe I dont even need to gap it.. Should I just do it to be safe? What you think?


If you plan on using a 3 electrode plug, that coin is worthless. You need a feeler gauge instead.

guess you have a point. tho the ones i got came with a cardboard sleeve around it. the sleeve wasn't damaged at all (cardboard shows when it has been bent) so i didn't think twice. gotta pick up one of those feeler gauges.



the coin should be able to work tho, you can measure it from the top, i just tried it

the gap could be messed up before or after the cardboard is installed/removed.

I got ya.. I ordered the four, of the ones that chaos recommended.. they will be measured prior to install. They should be here hopefully tomorrow..

So do you think I will notice a power difference...? or will it just smooth it out and stop the popping?

the problems you having now are hurting performance. So you will feel a gain. Just swapping the plugs (both working properly) i doubt it.

spark plugs wont add power, but they can restore power you lost

Got ya.. ya I believe there is lost power here. It feels like asshole majority of the time when I do hard accelerating..

Although I did do 0-50 in 6 seconds, thats video recorded then using a stopwatch so its accurate.. idk. It didnt feel right though, and has only worsen-ed

shat, man. just buy a damn feeler gauge already and kill this thread (atleast, the part about the plugs). it takes three minutes to do all eight. (exactly...)

(i'm sorry for reading it three times)

Gap your plugs!!!! "4 ground plugs make my car run shitty." You made your own car run shitty. Takes 5-30 seconds a plug and costs a dollar. Make the part jockey do it if you're lazy.

I just thought I would throw this idea out there and see if anyone bites. All this changed when you chipped the car correct? And I am guessing everything was fine up to this point. The popping sounds like unburned fuel in the exhaust. Could there be a possibility that the chip is causing a rich condition at WOT? Backfiring is a timing issue. Still the spark problem could be an issue. For some reason the fuel is not igniting or there is too much and is not burning completely. Just my thoughts...

F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK... This all just got alot more complicated.


Ok been drivng on it, and its been fine.. havent gone hard on the accelerating and its been ok.

But today, coming out of school.. accelerated to merge into traffic "POP" one loud pop out of the exhaust.. and it started sputtering and i rev'd it to keep it alive.. it returned to normal idle, I drove it home fine.. it idle'd when I got home normally and drove normally. Temperature gauge was normal. Everything seemed fine.. I turned it off. When i went to turn it back on, it turned over but died. I went to lunch, came home.. it turns ON.. NOW MY GAS LIGHT IS ON, COVERING THE TEMPERATURE. MY PHYSICAL GAS GAUGE IS AT EMPTY.

I PUT IN A FULL TANK OF GAS YESTERDAY. Now either its leaking, the ECU Is tripping out or someone actually siphon'd my gas from me and I am gonna murder someone. WHAT IS GOING ON?

thats weird. i would get a few gallons of gas and try putting it in, if it doesn't go in, your tank is full and you have a problem, if it all goes in, then someone stole your gas lol

and that loud pop was a backfire

Dude.. who in the name of sweet christ would steal gas? I will kill kids. What in the hell?!

I'll put some in for sure and figure this all out.

Ok just went and turned it back on.. it hesitates like a mofo turning on.

Ok.. so, it reads 0 miles left on the tank of gas, fully empty.

But it ALSO tells me traction control is turned off... and pushing the ECS button or whatever, DOES NOT turn it back on.. its like its fully going "Off" or just "Off"

So I think my ECU Is tripping out.. I checked around my gas tank, and the little lock that it has is still there and in place.. so wtf? I locked it for sure, how could someone possibly steal my gas?! I don't believe it.

yeah if all that is happening your ecu might be tripping out. i would have it towed to the place you got chipped and have them reflash it

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

yeah if all that is happening your ecu might be tripping out. i would have it towed to the place you got chipped and have them reflash it


Yeah I'm waiting till the spark plugs get here and going from there.. this is such a mess. I cant believe it! What the heck[:@] I Don't wanna hurt this brand new engine.

Cincy get up in here!:D

Come on guys, this sh*t is urgent.

I HIGHLY doubt someone stole your gas. you need to just get some normal ngk plugs, gap them and have the codes read and then reset. If you gas light is on, it could be a bad sensor which has happened a few times in the TT section. i would get codes asap.

I think someone didn't solder the chip in correctly, but what do i know.....

his chip would of been flashed

Its pretty easy to fvck up a flash too, god knows i have....

Its all fixed. Thank god.. not as intense as it seemed to be.

Coincidentally my battery died.. when my car did crazy things. I had a Boost leak, a hose had a bad clamp, found the leak, put on a new clamp nice and tight that stopped the surging. I had him tune it more aggressively.. it runs like a champ!

Installed a new battery, gave the old one back, got my $20.. and lifes good again. hahaha... I cant believe how odd it acted but I guess a boost leak will do that to ya. Glad to have saved lots of $$. Painting the rest of lowers next week:D

Thanks for the help guys, love Audiforums.

That's a wild ride you took there... glad it all worked out for you.