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I have a friend who will depress the brake on his automatic all the way and slam on the gas for a few seconds before letting off the brake and taking off.
Also, in my auto volvo I would occasionally rev up in Neutral and drop into Drive... but now the transmission on the volvo is RIP... coincidence?

anyways, are either one of these bad? I can't imagine they're good. How bad is each one for automatics? is it worth the little jump you would get off the line?

also, since 1.8T's don't get boost until higher RPMs, does this affect anything? would brake revving get rid of the low RPM lag?
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I have a friend who will depress the brake on his automatic all the way and slam on the gas for a few seconds before letting off the brake and taking off.
Also, in my auto volvo I would occasionally rev up in Neutral and drop into Drive... but now the transmission on the volvo is RIP... coincidence?

anyways, are either one of these bad? I can't imagine they're good. How bad is each one for automatics? is it worth the little jump you would get off the line?

also, since 1.8T's don't get boost until higher RPMs, does this affect anything? would brake revving get rid of the low RPM lag?
Of course its bad. Tell your friend hes a ****** dumbass. When he does that hes not only killing his tranny but hes killiing his engine and wearing down heavily on the hydrolics that his brake system is made up of The 1.8t builds boost early rather than later if it is stock. Neutral drops are also idiotic. You and your friend should be shot in the knee caps and be forced to forgive your license until you take a general common sense class on automobiles.
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Lol. the dropping it from neutral to drive is a horrible, HORRIBLE idea. as for the other one, its called a break stand. and it isnt horible bad for your car. its still not good, but dont just stand on ur break and roast the tires for 5 minutes. you see in dragraces. when they stay still but roast the tires before a run? thats a break stand. the rear breaks hold the tires still while the engine over powers the front breaks (FWD car) and the front wheels spin.
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usually in drag racing people use line lock to warm the tires
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Thats true also. but the drags i generally go to are the wednesday opens. so random people with ricers and mustangs and such go there. roll through the water pit. and light em up.
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the brake stand is not horrible for the car like Audicross stated. an auto tranny has a toque converter. there is no mechanical connection between the engine and transmission. instead the torque converter hs two plates with kinda like turbine blades. these plates are opposed and have heavy viscus fluid filled in between. the kenetic force of the fluid transfers rotation from one to another. an eccessivey long one might overheat and roast the converter fluid. its still abuse in any case.

a brake stand is a good way to warp your brake rotors though.

neutral drop...arugh! i think the above post have addresed this one allready.
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Klint. i have to say. that was like dead on. good description.
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we need more noobs like klint, who know their stuff, to offset all the typical ones lol

ya power braking/break stand/line lock/whatever you wana call it isn't too horibly bad but its not something i would do a lot. (tho it is quite fun in all your friends POS cars) and the nuetral drop is just plain stupid. you'll most likely *** something up real quick doing that one
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well, in that case I would like to thank everyone for saving my audi from ever getting neutral dropped on account of my ignorance

so brake stands are definitely not good, but doing a 2-3 second one every once in a while won't do any damage? If it would wear out my brakes a little faster that'd be different than if it would warp my rotors, cuz that's no laughing matter. anyways, thanks all.
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we need more noobs like klint, who know their stuff, to offset all the typical ones lol
I agree, if it weren't for people like klint who knew their stuff, then people who don't (eg. Me) would never learn any of it.

gracias @ klint.
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so brake stands are definitely not good, but doing a 2-3 second one every once in a while won't do any damage? If it would wear out my brakes a little faster that'd be different than if it would warp my rotors, cuz that's no laughing matter. anyways, thanks all.
nah i dont think it would warp the rotors. u would have to do one long enough to generate enough heat to warp them. prolly got more of a chance warping them while washin the car (dont spray cold water on hot brakes) a couple short ones every now and again probly aren't gona do much but i still wouldn;t recommend them
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no cold water on hot brakes, eh? good to know...

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there is no mechanical connection between the engine and transmission. instead the torque converter hs two plates with kinda like turbine blades. these plates are opposed and have heavy viscus fluid filled in between. the kenetic force of the fluid transfers rotation from one to another.
Another good analogy for an auto transmission I have heard is to imagine putting two fans really close (but not touching). If you turn one on, the other fan will also move slightly. This is partly why autos have more lost hp from the crank to the wheels.
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In an auto, if you're gonna do anything like that...

Best advice is to press the brake and press the gas pedal, just don't do it too much and do it more than 1 time in a course of 30 minutes.

It's not bad, but it can be if you keep playing around with it.
EDIT: This method is usually used for automatic racers. I don't burn out with it though, but I haven't done it in the Audi either.
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I'm sorta confused. all I've really gotten is that they're not good. and It's not worth being mean to my audi, so no burnouts for me.
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ya jus dont do them often is what i was tryin to get at. if you feel like lighting the tires up every once in a while go for it. jus dont abuse the audi
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yeah, sounds good. Does it actually give you a reasonable jump off the line?, or is it just placebo? it's obviously different, but is it a worthwhile difference? (sorry to beat this topic into the ground, just curious on your opinion)
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hmmm...it might. i've never driven an automatic audi so i cant really help ya there. i know on manuals you wana get it somewhere between 3-4k when launching but autos i have no clue sry. maybe some of the auto dudes can help you there
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i wouldn't do it....probably only get you 1/16 of sec jump ....ain't audi auto tranny cost like kazillion dollars?
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