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I'm completely agree with you about the redline shift. It was one of my reservations about getting the DSG. After autocrossing the car it hasn't really become an issue. That being said I do prefer a manual for autocrossing, but I also prefer rear wheel drive for autocrossing. I purchased the A3 as a daily driver and do a lot of road trips ad the DSG has been great for my needs.
Someone said earlier that the Sport mode shifts at redline which is only a true statement if by sport he means moving the shifter to the right into the +/- gate. Otherwise if he is talking about moving the shifter down to S, it shifts around 4k rpm under light throttle (D mode shifts around 2k rpm). BTW, D and S will both shift at redline if throttle is to the floor. The +/- gate will only shift at redline unless shifted maually by the driver.
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I'm the ultimate authority on this subject; I own one of each, and I'm a hardcore manual guy from wayback.
The answer is , I love both; The DSG is better in the urban environment, and uses less gas. The 6MT is more fun for suburban or open road use. I'd be happy owning either by itself. DSG has a learning curve just like MT driving, takes a while to master - but it's a superb advance in tranny technology that is only going to get better with development. Not yet perfect, but lots of fun.
MY only reservation about this debate is that I have several manual Porsches to drive when my left leg gets bored or restless; If I didn't, I might be tempted to own the 6 MT car for a daily driver.
Yuppie - the DSG and MT ratios are very, very close; for all intents, the same.
WOW! one of each?! that would be pretty awesome...im jealous!!
now I came upon the point where I had to choose between the s-line with standard quattro and a v6, or the 2.0t and upgrade to quattro
(quattro is a must have, i dont care if your mario frekin adretti)
I think you guys all missed this part of the initial post...
It doesn't matter what everyone prefers cause "luvin the rings" is stating the car must be the Quattro.
I haven't been on this forum that long... but this is one debate I have seen discussed over and over again and it all comes down to personal preference... Personally, Audi wouldn't let me have it my way as I would have liked a 6-Speed Quattro... but choose to settle for the FWD 6-Speed.
now I came upon the point where I had to choose between the s-line with standard quattro and a v6, or the 2.0t and upgrade to quattro
(quattro is a must have, i dont care if your mario frekin adretti)
I think you guys all missed this part of the initial post...Â*
It doesn't matter what everyone prefers cause "luvin the rings" is stating the car must be the Quattro.
I haven't been on this forum that long... but this is one debate I have seen discussed over and over again and it all comes down to personal preference...Â* Personally, Audi wouldn't let me have it my way as I would have liked a 6-Speed Quattro...Â* but choose to settle for the FWD 6-Speed.
BAMF, good suggestion. I've alternated betweentheshifter and the paddles. For me,my brain just can'tshift with the righthand withoutpunching a clutchwith the left foot. (You know us older folks...) So,I choose the paddles over the shifter.
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2007 A3 2.0T FSI Sport w/DSG, Ibis White/Gray, Full-Tint, Open Sky, XM
Coming from a triptronic auto I4 5spd on my MB, I got the chance to test an 07s-line and having never using paddle-shift, it was a lil weird to get used to. but once I got it used to it, i was amazed at how fast it shifted. Seems like before my hand was letting go of the paddle it was well into the next gear. Were-as my c230 has major lagging. not so much in the tranny, mainly in the throttle due to lovely DBW [i hate it!].
I had initially asked to test an mani-tranny and they said 'for the area' they werent likely to have any, which i was kinda bummed about. When I had went test driving for my mb, it was said that about 1 in every 52 was a manual. kinda depressing. It does have the triptronic, but its not as much a thrill to drop the clutch and so forth.
I think with time, getting used to paddling would seem to be pretty fun. But never outdoing left foot-right hand combos. One thing i did notice was that with the throttle it took about 1/3 pressed for a rolling start then just launched. Seems like I couldnt stop setting off the ESP, and i didnt even have my foot in it. Weird. Guess I'm just used to electronic throttle lag.
I'm responding to an old post here. Too lazy to read down to see if you got your car or not. DSG is amazing. I've always been a manual guy, but thought I'd try auto with some technology like this. It was the right thing to do. And don't forget, you have 'S' mode if you feel like burning some gasoline.
I wanted the DSG, but didn't like how much it jacked up the price on me.At the time I wanted abase car -manual andcloth interior - so I could get out the door for 22-23K. The only optionI got was the sky roof because that's all they had.I love the stick, but sometimes inAtlanta traffic [:@]...
I'm completely agree with you about the redline shift. It was one of my reservations about getting the DSG. After autocrossing the car it hasn't really become an issue. That being said I do prefer a manual for autocrossing, but I also prefer rear wheel drive for autocrossing. I purchased the A3 as a daily driver and do a lot of road trips ad the DSG has been great for my needs.
Someone said earlier that the Sport mode shifts at redline which is only a true statement if by sport he means moving the shifter to the right into the +/- gate. Otherwise if he is talking about moving the shifter down to S, it shifts around 4k rpm under light throttle (D mode shifts around 2k rpm). BTW, D and S will both shift at redline if throttle is to the floor. The +/- gate will only shift at redline unless shifted maually by the driver.
I would clarification about the DSG. If you have it +/- mode and it hits redline what happens exactly? Dealer sales person says it will just keep going, which seems like a rather ridiculous statement as it would either damage the engine or a rev limiter would have to kick in (like my manual 330i) to prevent damage. I tried to argue that surely it must shift up a gear but was told no. I said lets give it a try (in a test drive) but sales person said no (they insist on riding along with you). So I can only guess that to avoid damaging the engine (Audi wouldn't be dumb enough to allow that) it must either (i) have a rev-limiter and cut the engine above re-lineor (ii) shift up a gear. Which is it? Thanks.
RE: DSG or Not?
