RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet
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RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/19/2006 10:22:09 PM
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offroad911
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Well, I have had the privilege of my Daytona/Black RS4 for a week and it is everything I hoped for and more. At delivery I was a bit under whelmed with the performance, however after a week things have changed, and SIGNIFICANTLY.
At delivery I felt that the car was simply too tight and the response was lacking. Each mile has proven just how well the car is built. Each mile the car is more responsive, quicker, flatter, and more nimble and is beginning to exceed my expectations.
Handling is absolutely flat making posted 30mph corners very easy at 90mph. Response to steering input is instant and requires very methodical corrections in the learning curve. Steering is much more responsive than either of my S4's. I was not impressed with the shifter at delivery and today I can say it is smoother and more positive than either of my S4's. The brakes are simply awesome! Having driven big brake equipped S4's, there is no comparison to the RS4 brakes. I firmly believe that if I tried hard I could stand the RS4 on its nose!
The fit and finish of the car is impressive and to those who know, instantly draws a crowd. Saturday I was back at the dealer for coffee and donuts and a sneak peek at the new 997 Turbo. My RS4 drew a bigger crowd. The engine compartment is a work of art and a must see for anyone looking at the RS4. The engine compartment gives new meaning to "over the top". Stopped by a friends GMC dealership and instantly emptied the showroom of sales people. Spent 30 minutes answering questions from "gear heads" that happen to sell GMC's.
Running the car through the gears is effortless and intoxicating. The rate of speedometer sweep is validation for the performance specs posted for the RS4. The Sport button is not my cup of tea and I find it a bit too sensitive in the remap of the throttle response. The exhaust is certainly better with the "S" button engaged, however I need to hear the FSI injected 4.2 "talk" to me and the stock exhaust simply doesn’t do it for me, even in the "S" mode.
Monday I spoke with Bob (owner) at Stratsmosphere and he "hooked" me up with one of the first two Milltek RS4 catback systems to arrive in the US. The Stratsmosphere RS4 gets the first one and I get the second. Since there won't be anymore for about six weeks, I feel very fortunate. More HP and sound to go with it, how could it get any better? So as soon as the Milltek arrives I will post a follow-up.
I feel privileged and humble to own such an automobile. While very different than my Porsche 996 TT "S", the RS4 is in a league of its own and offers performance on a world class level. The RS4 certainly establishes the benchmark for a Super Sedan class. BMW will have to work very hard to make the new (coming) M3 a competitor.
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/19/2006 10:50:56 PM
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redleg6
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holy RS4 batman, first Milltek exhaust...ok 2nd, anyway, get some pics as soon as you can or the install process...im very intrigued by the new RS4 and would LOVE to have one someday(yeah right), as a tuner at heart, I await more news from your RS4 exploits...thanks for the quick write-up! 
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/20/2006 1:12:21 AM
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Trev
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Here we go on one of my long A** replies. I am facinated at how much we think a like offroad. Same color and same reviews (almost identicle) on the RS4. I was the exact same way when I first drove mine off the lot. I felt as though for the price and specs I should have gotten "more car" but all of that changed as time went on. Handling is in a league of its own, I concurr. I have not pushed 90 in a 30 MPH corner yet but have reached 140 and it was easier than turning on my plasma while veg'n out. Granted the car had over 500 miles on it to ensure a somewhat broken in engine.
Have you set the Speedo alert yet? I set mine to 90 b/c at 80, it feels as though you are only going 40. The one thing I wish this car had was digital gauges FYI. Reading the manual is like reading the directions for your favorite toy as a child. There is so much to learn and every bit is interesting.
The brakes....just awesome. Self cleaning too, which I love considering they are ventilated. If those things were to heat up with dirt in the holes...can you say cracked rotor. Love it! There is hardly any dive when gettin on those puppies.
As for the engine, a friend of mine said it best "damn thing is so nice & clean, you could eat off of it". I couldn't have said it better myself. That leads me into the S button. I said basically the same thing. Doesn't do much for me/I'd rather here the engine. Throttle is pretty jumpy while its engaged but the overall sound is "a little" better. I want to emphasize little.
I have been an avid fan of exhaust for some time now, so I am very interested to here what you think of your new one. How will that affect your S button characteristics? Guessing no baffle open/close-just an increase in throttle right? From Borla, Gibson & F-40/F-50 series F.M's to California turbos, cherry bombs and other glass packs I have messed with them all. Some cars it affects the warranty and others it doesn't. Will it on the RS4? Simply can't wait to hear it!
This is a world class super car and it def turns heads "FOR THOSE WHO KNOW" and some that don't, which I like. It has a suttle "sleeper" like approach if you want it too or it has a whoop your A** approach if that is what you are in the mood for that day. Glad you like your new ride, I knew you would. Make sure they give you all the pin #'s to enter for your Nav, phone and other instruments. Also, did you get my report on the main oil line? Have yours checked for peace of mind eventhough I am sure it is fine.
While at my dealer today, a guy who owns more bada** cars than a Sultan came up to me after looking over my ride. He was in a twin turbo Bentley coupe AWD W-12...sweet! He also has an '03 RS6 (many others) and an order for the R8 coming out in a year or so...dudes loaded. Anyway, he had the clear film bra on his Bentley and on most of his other cars. My question is this: do you think, eventhough up close you can tell its a stick on protectant, it is worth it to have applied to the front end? I want my car to be protected but I also want it to look good. What does everyone think?
Almost forgot, did yours come with the strait filler panel in front or the license holder...which one did you order? Mine came (and all the rest) with the License holder but, I already ordered the strait panel and am having it installed later in the week! Cost $200.00 FYI-but gettin it for a hundo since my name was used from a referral for a customer who bought an A6 last week. He read what I wrote about my dealer on this website and then drover from TN to buy one. Kinda cool.
Congrats Offroad & great review, I really enjoyed reading it!
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/20/2006 2:07:30 AM
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redleg6
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hope you two compare notes and present more for us fellow Audiphiles in the future
< Message edited by redleg6 -- 6/20/2006 2:08:34 AM >
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/20/2006 10:19:47 AM
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Trev - your question about whether you should apply a clearbra is for you only to answer because it depends on your driving style and environment. FYI, I had it on my M5 and endded up removing it after two years. That "line" on the hood drove me nuts. Especially when someone notices it and asked what it is. And there was no wax buildup along that crack to make it stand out either, I always used blue painters tape when waxing.
Now I didn't drive my car in nasty conditions, nor do I even come close to what would be considered tailgating. So in that case, the clearbra just detracted from the car's appearance. Now if I lived in a big city where you must tailgate or the space ahead of you will quickly fill up, or if I drove the car in the winter where they graveled/sanded the roads, then maybe. I said maybe. Of course stone chips are plenty unsightly too, but another option is a respray every two years. Touch call, good luck deciding. FWIW, I'm not putting it on my new RS4 when it arrives, and I plan on driving it every day even in the nasty winter.
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/21/2006 9:10:08 AM
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Trev
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Much appreciated Elevens!
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/21/2006 4:24:43 PM
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Trev
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Offroad, did your RS4 come with Michelin's or Pirelli's? Curious?
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/21/2006 10:39:47 PM
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offroad911
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quote:
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Offroad, did your RS4 come with Michelin's or Pirelli's? Curious?
P Zero's and I don't like them ! Will switch to Michelin PS2 very soon !
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/21/2006 11:50:10 PM
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abacab
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Thanks for the impressions....um..RS4...has to be my next car....just have to start working on how to justify.....
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/22/2006 12:32:43 AM
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abacab
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balance of disposable cash and descresionary wants and desires....
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/22/2006 6:39:02 AM
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offroad911
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quote:
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Forgot to mention, I am looking into exhaust also. I found a stratmosphere authorized dealer up in roswell GA. Sent an email asking for details on milltek ex:Tips, S button changes etc etc. I am also looking into "quicksilver" systems. What does everyone recommend and why?
Trev - The Milltek RS4 system is ONLY available with the NEWLY DESIGNED oval Milltek tips similar to the factory tips. If you are going Milltek I highly recommend you go directly to Stratmosphere since they are the US distributor for Milltek. You can even have your Audi dealer order the system from Stratmosphere and the dealer will get a little discount (making them more willing to do the install) and thus the exhaust should present no warranty issues.
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08 Acura TL Type-S
GONE but not Forgotten:
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04 Cayenne S
05 Acura TL A-Spec
05.5 Audi B7 S4 Sedan
05 Porsche 996 TT "S" Cab
06 Audi B7 S4 2
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/22/2006 6:44:37 AM
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offroad911
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Mine came with Pirelli's also, why don't you like them? I noticed they tend to loose traction and bounce around the pavement while manuvering from right to left when cornering or quick jolts. All in all they are decent though-def be my 2nd pick. Have not had a chance to try them out in the rain (been three F'n weeks since we had rain here) have you?
The P Zero is not as compliant as the PS2, does not hold its shape as well as the PS2, is not as dynamiaclly stable as the PS2, is much noiser than the PS2, does not wear as well as the PS2.
I had PS2's on both of my S4's, my 996 Turbo and my A3. There simply is no substitute for the race bred engineering on the Michelin PS2.
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07 Audi Q7 Prem
08 Audi R8
07 Audi B7 RS4
08 Acura TL Type-S
GONE but not Forgotten:
01 Porsche 996 C2 Cab
04 Cayenne S
05 Acura TL A-Spec
05.5 Audi B7 S4 Sedan
05 Porsche 996 TT "S" Cab
06 Audi B7 S4 2
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/22/2006 10:11:49 AM
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Trev
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abacab/understandable, making the decision to buy this car and accepting that its a balanced one is difficult. The car is very expensive and frankly I do not know how I am able to afford it with its other expenses ex:gas, insurance etc. Thats your call. I have wanted this thing for 2 years and looked it up online or anywhere I could find in that time so deciding was (I don't want to say easy) but I didn't hesitate. If you love cars as much as I and can afford it...I highly recommend the RS4 over any other car in its price range & some even more expensive.
Offroad/I guess oval is my only option on tips. Damn, I wanted rectangular possibly "intercooled", O'well. If I order it I was going to get it through Nally Audi who is a certified stratmosphere distributor. Glad to hear there isn't any warranty issues...excellent news!
Quicksilver wrote me back from the UK and said they have a system with a functional baffle? Still checking on that (waiting to hear back) but will let you know asap. Still not sure who I should go with when I decide to upgrade? The tech from the stratmosphere distributor wrote me back also and said I should wait about 6 months before I make that decision. Honestly, I agree with him. He said putting one on an S4 was an all day task and a pain in the A**! However, it is most def possible and can be done. He said to wait and let someone else be the ginnie pig. When someone is turning down $ to express what they think is best, I listen. Don't worry, this won't steer me away from doing it later though. He said the "S" would only control the throttle increase w/ the Milltek system, which I already knew/baffle would be gone. Not a huge deal but as we were saying earlier in the week, listening to JUST the engine is pretty sweet and I kinda like having the option to go into stealth mode.
As for the PS2's, I will try them out once my pirelli's are bald. Don't have the funds to swap them out right now plus they are brand new italian tires, couldn't stand seeing them catch dust in my garage w/ less the a 1000 miles on them. I do agree, insane amount of road noise...geese! Sounds like you are re-entering the earth's atmosphere from space! Let me know what you think when you upgrade to PS2's.
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RE: RS4 & Milltek - Just can't Stand Quiet - 6/26/2006 11:48:34 AM
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redleg6
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Elevens, thanks for the advise! I will re-think the situation and ponder over a few drinks later. :) I too agree that the line over the hood is an eye soar. Sounds like waxing is a real pain too. I do live in a big city and so far I have tried avoiding highways and long drives down to one of my businesses-2 hours away FYI. Backroads are key in Atlanta and there are plenty of them, so I'll continue to use them 90% of the time. Curious, how much did it cost to buy and have installed? Thanks again!
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