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tglick -> My new RS4 (7/13/2006 1:12:18 PM)

Hey - new to the forum - new to audi. Just got my first audi, 2007 RS4 - Avus Silver, Black interior. The car is incredible. Got a few questions for everyone from reading through the forum. I trade my Range Rover Sport Supercharged in for the RS4 this past weekend (Here is a picture of my the range http://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=275 ). I have never owned a manual car before - but, being a car fanatic, I had to have the RS. I have picked up manual very quickly and have been EXTREMELY careful with the car during the process. There were a few stalls at the beginning, but once I got used to the feel of the clutch I got it - I have spend about 2 hours practicing everyday since I took delivery of the car and am improving everyday. Are there any techincal factors I should worry about as I am new to driving manual? I do not want to harm the car and am being overly cautious at all times. I would say that I have stalled the car a total of 15 times since I have taken delivery - but since I have actually gotten the hang of the clutch, I have not stalled it once - is there any chance I have damaged the car? Most people will probably think I am insane for buying a manual car before even knowing how to drive manual - but I understand cars and knew I would pick it up immediately. Also, my dealership stressed not to bring the car to or over 7,000 rpms with in the first 1000 miles to serve as the break in period. Although I do not plan on doing this - if it happens once or twice, will that absolutely void my warranty? I read the post concerning the stripped oil line - how did this happen? What exactly does over tourqueing mean? Please reply and let me know your thoughts - I am excited about the new car and am pleased to be driving such a speacial machine.

  
Trev -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 2:30:25 PM)

-Congrats on your RS, you will love it more and more everyday. Buying a car of this caliber and not knowing how to drive a manual is kinda risky but it sounds like you are doing ok. Stalling shouldn't hurt your car FYI. May feel like a jacka**, but it won't hurt it. If you did it 10 times a day for month's...ya something eventually might fall loose...LOL!
*Two things I would watch out for since you are a novice. One, don't strip the gears! Make sure the clutch is pressed in all the way before up/down shifting...obviously. Two, don't burn out the clutch by "riding" it. EX: don't hold the clutch down while you are sitting at a light waiting for it to turn green. The clutch on this car does take some getting used to but after a few weeks you should have it down.
If you go over 7000rpms in the first 1000 miles it won't void your warranty. You paid for this car and it is yours, somebody at your dealer telling you how to drive your car? True, you do have to break a new car in slowly, however, as I said earlier this week,after you pass 500 miles, break it in the way you want to drive it. Guessing you won't be stompin it the whole time so if not you should be alright.
-Topping 8k rpm Once or twice isn't a problem in the first 500. You need to at least get a feel for what this car can do. Its all about mind over matter w/ this car. If you hesitate it will get away from you, so be aware at all times.
-Overtorqued means they (GmbH) stripped the oil line when tightening it up at production FYI. Thus, an oil leak was created.
*Again, enjoy your new baby and be careful dude!*

techbod -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 2:34:56 PM)

total spam its a filthy range rover and crap at that like a brick on wheels[:D]

Trev -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 2:45:45 PM)

Still a nice SUV. I would take it over the Q7. HAHA funny!

techbod -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 2:50:57 PM)

don't like them personally I had one and it was a waste of road space now they get road taxed higher they are not worth it (school runners) my woman loved it,
sorry about the edits my voice command is having trouble

Trev -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 3:07:23 PM)

Actually, if I were to get an SUV today it would probably be the SRT-8 Cherokee. For $40,000, you can't beat the amenity's, power and agility. Alsolook pretty good too!

techbod -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 3:27:17 PM)

ok in the USA but wasted on a small island like the UK

Trev -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 3:57:59 PM)

What? Voice command is failing...LOL! The SRT (eventhough domestic) is a powerhouse. If you put a supercharger w/7-8lbs of boost on it and a few other mods...I would take it up against anything 0-60. That would mean a 6.1L/540+HP/500+lbs of torque rocket ship! Add in the AWD and automatic...off the line would smoke anything!

toysnob -> RE: My new RS4 (7/13/2006 7:31:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tglick

Hey - new to the forum - new to audi. Just got my first audi, 2007 RS4 - Avus Silver, Black interior. The car is incredible. Got a few questions for everyone from reading through the forum. I trade my Range Rover Sport Supercharged in for the RS4 this past weekend (Here is a picture of my the range http://www.rrsport.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=275 ). I have never owned a manual car before - but, being a car fanatic, I had to have the RS. I have picked up manual very quickly and have been EXTREMELY careful with the car during the process. There were a few stalls at the beginning, but once I got used to the feel of the clutch I got it - I have spend about 2 hours practicing everyday since I took delivery of the car and am improving everyday. Are there any techincal factors I should worry about as I am new to driving manual? I do not want to harm the car and am being overly cautious at all times. I would say that I have stalled the car a total of 15 times since I have taken delivery - but since I have actually gotten the hang of the clutch, I have not stalled it once - is there any chance I have damaged the car? Most people will probably think I am insane for buying a manual car before even knowing how to drive manual - but I understand cars and knew I would pick it up immediately. Also, my dealership stressed not to bring the car to or over 7,000 rpms with in the first 1000 miles to serve as the break in period. Although I do not plan on doing this - if it happens once or twice, will that absolutely void my warranty? I read the post concerning the stripped oil line - how did this happen? What exactly does over tourqueing mean? Please reply and let me know your thoughts - I am excited about the new car and am pleased to be driving such a speacial machine.


we have something in common. i'm in a similar boat. i drove stick about 5 years ago, but barely, so it doesn't even count. i had to relearn. i have stalled a few times, mostly on steep hills. i too have gotten the feel of the clutch now and am still looking for tips though about shift patterns. i've heard people use very different patterns on the same car. 1-3-5, 1-2-3-4, etc. i plan on taking professional driving lessons at a local racetrack.. good luck, let us know how it goes, don't be afraid of what people will say or of what people will think on the road, just concentrate and enjoy the car!

tglick -> RE: My new RS4 (7/16/2006 6:40:12 PM)

Trev - gotta question - or anyone else who can answer it for that matter. I have been driving the RS4 for a week now - and for those of you reading this for the first time - I am a novice manual driver. Trev mentioned before not to hold the clutch in when I am stopped at a light - however, I understand that when the car is in neutral and my foot is on the break while I am waiting for a light to change - the clutch should obviously not be in - however, isn't it ok to keep the clutch in and be in first gear waiting for a light to change? Usually I will slip it into neutral from second as I am pulling up to the light and stay put with my foot on the break until the light is about to turn green - then I engage the clutch shift into first and im off - however, I will from time to time sit at the light in first gear with the clutch in and wait for it to turn green - is this bad for the car / incorrect?

Trev -> RE: My new RS4 (7/16/2006 8:54:25 PM)

Yes, bad for the car! If you are at a light (or anywhere for that matter and not in motion) put the car in nuetral and leave the clutch disengaged. Whether you are in nuetral or first, pressing the clutch and leaving it there while at a light is the same thing and bad for your car. You will eventually burn out the clutch dude. Whenever you don't have to use the clutch take advantage of that opportunity.
Now if you were at a light getting ready to race someone you might be able to get away with it once or twice but in that case-I would recommend timing the light and engageing the clutch just before it turns green FYI.

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tglick -> RE: My new RS4 (7/16/2006 9:43:34 PM)

Alright - sounds good. Ok so now for another question - when I am switching gears - say from 1st to 2nd or from 2nd to 3rd - should I be completely disengaging the throttle? Or should my foot be on the throttle a little bit (i.e. when engage the clutch - should my foot be on the throttle to a certain extent while the clutch is engaged - making the RPMs slightly increase when the clutch is engaged? Or should I, as a rule of thumb, ALWAYS be taking my foot completely off the throttle whenever I engage the clutch?

Trev -> RE: My new RS4 (7/16/2006 11:54:55 PM)

Always take your foot off the throttle. If you want to keep the revs high, shift faster...but at the same time smooth shifts. The only time I keep my foot a little close to the throttle (Just a half tap/not stationary so to say-usually when down shifting) is if I'm going to pass someone that is pissing me off so I don't loose any revs. Otherwise, keep your foot off.

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ELEVENS -> RE: My new RS4 (7/17/2006 11:50:47 AM)

On a similarly powerful and heavy car, the E39 BMW M5, the key to clutch survival is the removal of your foot from the clutch pedal whenever your have throttle applied, especially in-between shifts. Resting your foot on the clutch pedal results in clutch slippage, and when under power the clutch immediately overheats. From that time on, the clutch is glazed and won't hold. In extreme cases, the flywheel turns blue from heat and cannot be resurfaced. That gets crazy expensive. The only solution is replacement, a very expensive operation and not covered under warranty because the clutch is a wear item and.or evidence of "abuse". I've read many stories of even "experienced" stick-shift drivers melting the M5 clutch, so it can happen to anyone.

I've been trying to learn more about the RS4 clutch - especially diameter and whether it's a dual-disk setup like I've read in one test report. This info would be extremely useful in estimating how much (or how little) mileage we have before the first clutch job. Anyone?



Trev -> RE: My new RS4 (7/17/2006 12:31:03 PM)

I have heard dual disk but don't quote me on that? I also wanted to add that using a double clutch shift technique might be the best way to go but that would take TG a while to learn. I also meant throttle before upshift not down. Yes, leave your foot off the clutch as much as possible, that is the best advise I can give w/out actually showing you TG.

  

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