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-T.S.- I'm sorry to hear all of that dude...some BS! I cannot believe all of the problems people (including myself at one point) are having with their RS4's. This a limited model super car and it shouldn't have a majority of the problems listed. I think the guy who posted on the other site made a good point about the 80 miles on yours @ arrival. I was saying WTF too when I noticed mine had 45! I'll bet some jacka** reved and raced it to soon and fu**ed up your engine-the 80 miles didn't just appear "poof" one day on the odometer. -After driving around the city of ATL for 45 miles to see how far one would really have to venture to tack up the mileage...it was rediculous everywhere I drove in that span. Some places I even had to drive through twice to equal it out! That is one of the areas that I think are extremely shady with buying this car. -They are not living up to the Lemon law probably b/c that part or parts have to break 5 times or more in a year for it to be covered. Still, dismantling your engine, on a brand new RS, more than once, is unacceptable and you should have been given a new one w/out question. If AOA has so much money and are so powerful, whats an 80k loss (eventhough their cronies would fix your current one and sell it for 50-60k b/c its used and pitch that the "previous owner wanted something else"...yeah right) so really they would only be out about 20k. -Sounds like you are not going to get another and rightfully so. I was under the impression that Audi had a stellar record but after this and other problems I've heard, including my own, its not so stellar and really needs to be fixed/gonna take more than P.R-they need quality builders. Guess my whole "select team of ten" blah blah blah was just a figament of some Audis salesman's imagination. -As I said in a post a while back, I'll bet the US is gettin the shi* end of the RS production or some are even Lemons from other countries they are putting on us? I know that is highly Illegal and hopefully isn't the case but my optimism is shrinking by the week. Damn, how will these situations affect my resale? SH*T! -Good luck on your quest for justice and keep me posted (as an RS owner) on how it goes. Has anyone heard back from TSunami on his situation? -PS-if you are not getting another RS are you going to get the new M3, the R8 or what??? I am assuming you are done with Audi's after this?
Trev, go to the AW board for RS4 and just LOOK at how many asses have come out of the woodwork to rag on me for ranting about this incident. It is actually unbelievable how much contempt they have because I posted this. I do not understand how they all congregate on AW. I have always noticed that AudiForums had much nicer people on the boards.
In either case, I think all the publicity the threads are getting over there are not good for Audi, regardless of what is being said against me.
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I have heard way more bad stories about the new RS than good ones. I would be pissed if I dropped that kind of cash down on a new car and had the problems that I have seen. That's why I never buy a car the year it comes out. They always have problems and then get fixed... most of the time... They already have your money, so what do they care?
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Very true on the new car bit, very true. But, the RS will only be in production for maybe 2 years and at the rate its going probably one. So in terms of the RS4 I have to disagree. A car of this magnitude and price shouldn't have to go through a "test or dummie" process...damn thing should run like lightning no matter what! I will say mine is running great and still love it more and more everyday. If you would have told me this car would be in slumps like it is now anytime over the past 2 years I would have said you were nuts and to go enter a psych ward.
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Back in '01 my dad purchased an S600 Benz w/ desingo interior, AMG wheels and AMG dual exhaust...badass! Anyhow, the damn thing was in the shop more times than I can count on both hands. The reason it wasn't a lemon was b/c everytime in the shop was for a diff problem or less than 3 a piece. I know it was in there for 4 weeks out of the first year and Mercedes wouldn't do shi*! Whats up with the German's? I liked the quality and power in his '97 S600 much better FYI. That thing was a beast plus it was a true Diamler/Benz...not Diamler/Chysler.
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Gregg, you on here? Got your text from the other night... we did forget to take a pic of the twins. Phantom and Daytona side by side...would have been SWEET!
Ahh F**k! What can i say toysnob? It would be great if u could see the guys who built the engine and have a go at them
So what were the exact reasons for them needing to rebuild the engine 3 f*****g times? Couldnt they get it rite after the 1st rebuild? Gosh incompetence
Ahh F**k! What can i say toysnob? It would be great if u could see the guys who built the engine and have a go at them
So what were the exact reasons for them needing to rebuild the engine 3 f*****g times? Couldnt they get it rite after the 1st rebuild? Gosh incompetence
His engine was never even rebuilt 1 time, the intake was removed
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-How can you get confused removing the intake or rebuilding the engine? I used to remove my intake system completely (which I custom designed FYI) on a 5.9L 360 V8 and it is no big deal as long as you put it all back together right. Like mine, if there was a throttle body spacer, careful not to break any gaskets/other than that, it's a piece of cake. Something doesn't add upp? A project like that should take a couple of hours to fix...max! -I Have not examend the RS system quite as much as I want but know they are all basically the same. There is obviously a lack of communication or the person relaying the info needs to get their head out of their A**. How was TS supposed to know, he is going based off of what he hear's from service. Major cluster FU**! Regardless, he needs better communication being that he just dropped 80k on what is "supposed to be" a bullet proof vehicle. What a bummer for him-geeze.
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WOW t.s. sorry to hear about this problem. but i would have done the exact same thing and asked for the car to be replaced or refunded. please keep us updated on your issue. i hope AoA does what's right.
i came from a Subaru and left the brand after repeated attempts to fix a car under warranty were unsucessful, both with the dealer and with Subaru corporate. anyone can build a car and sell it. but it takes a real company to support their products and resolve issues for the customer. i hope i haven't jumped from the pan to the fryer by switching to an RS4...
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by the way t.s., i would ignore what all the "armchair" mechanics and "riced out 1.8T" posters on the other site have to say. unless you've personally chunked down $73K+ of your hard earned cash on a brand new car, you will NEVER understand the frustration and anger you would feel when you're confronted with an issue like this. and if you can afford this car, i'm sure you'll agree it's never about the money; it's about the principle.
For what it's worth, I've got about 2500 miles on my RS4 with no problems so far.
Also, while this is somewhat controversial, many people (myself included) feel that you should break in a motor hard to ensure the rings seat properly under WOT. The gist of it is that piston rings will seat completely at full throttle; at half throttle and lower, you're going to seat the rings at a diameter that is slightly less than they'll expand to at WOT. What does this mean? Well, at full throttle after your engine has been broken in, the rings aren't going to open completely, allowing oil and gasses to blow-by, burning oil and potentially damaging pistons.
Your dealer may have done you a favor by bringing your car out back and zooming it around the block a few times.
I ran my car as hard as possible for 500 miles, and hope to continue to do so for the life of it. :)
Just don't get over your head man. You have the upperhand, don't fumble it.
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First 500 play with it at low to middle revs. 500-1000 middle to high and 1000-1500 mainly high revs. Basically, break the car in the way you want to drive it...couldn't agree more. Did the same and it is running great. I'm @ 2200 miles and she is running beautifully, couldn't be happier with my RS and the way it is performing. Do feel bad for the others who are not so fortunate.
The people on the AW boards are smoking dust. I am sure that no more than 1% of the a$$es who flamed me for 12 hours straight could afford this car, the rest of them are pissing in the wind.
I hate to say it man, but please don't get cocky. Yeah they flamed you, whatever, AW likes it in the butt. Just don't get so miniacal that you lose focus. I'm warning you, or else you'll come out with nothing in the end but a bad headache. I want to see you beat these d-bags.
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"Great folks gathered at the festival of Golthar. One being Rizaru, Chieftain of the far lands. During his high rein, he was capable of dismounting a soldier off his stable from one hundred yards away using a mere toothpick and his penis."
I hate to say it man, but please don't get cocky. Yeah they flamed you, whatever, AW likes it in the butt. Just don't get so miniacal that you lose focus. I'm warning you, or else you'll come out with nothing in the end but a bad headache. I want to see you beat these d-bags.
i agree with mott. just keep your cool and you'll come out on top.
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