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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/17/2006 1:50:31 PM
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drj0ndurst
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I see what you're saying and agree.. so just make it happen huh, simple enough. not really.
but I do see what you're saying, its just not in my character to be a hard-ass businessman so thats why I say its only a dream.. Im too kind hearted in real life or "weak" as i've been called. i may just transform though.. i can change from drjondurst to drjekyll with ease but I dont like myself when I do (oh damn myaudi98, startin to get a little below the surface here)
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/17/2006 2:10:27 PM
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and not just material things either. you'll strive to make other things happen in your life if you really want it.
been there, strived, and failed. does wonders for confidence, but it turns out its the reason i have motivation to 'make it happen'
how old are some of you rs owners btw?
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/17/2006 2:15:02 PM
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when it comes to business im hard, but friends im soft which is the way it should be
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I see what you're saying and agree.. so just make it happen huh, simple enough. not really.
but I do see what you're saying, its just not in my character to be a hard-ass businessman so thats why I say its only a dream.. Im too kind hearted in real life or "weak" as i've been called. i may just transform though.. i can change from drjondurst to drjekyll with ease but I dont like myself when I do (oh damn myaudi98, startin to get a little below the surface here)
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/17/2006 2:16:02 PM
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soft I am not
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/17/2006 4:50:14 PM
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and not just material things either. you'll strive to make other things happen in your life if you really want it.
been there, strived, and failed. does wonders for confidence, but it turns out its the reason i have motivation to 'make it happen'
how old are some of you rs owners btw?
i too have been there, strived, and failed. but you DO IT AGAIN. DO IT AGAIN. DO IT AGAIN till you get it right. if plan A doesn't work. go to plan B. if that don't work go to plan C. if you end up at Z, go to plan AA, then BB. screw confidence, screw pride, screw what all the doubters say. just get it done, somehow. that's all part of "making it happen". dreams point the way but they do nothing to get you there...
i'm 32 going on 50....
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/19/2006 1:09:24 PM
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nice, deep thoughts. enjoyed reading this thread. good to know that there are people in the world that know what it's all about. problem is, it takes most of us, most of our lives to learn these things.
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/21/2006 12:11:45 AM
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I dont know how I'll afford my RS4. But I know I want one. My biggest fear is not that I can't afford it but will it still be available in the next couple of years 
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/21/2006 12:20:04 AM
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what does it matter if its still available if you cant afford it.. interesting order of priorities
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/31/2006 4:01:24 PM
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yea im in a career right now that is in between hobby and job, computer science. I just dotn think I'll ever be able to afford an 80 thousand dollar car and it sucks. entreprenuer huh, what were some of your favorite college classes?
I'm not an RS owner (obviously not at 18), but I'd say that attitude is going to stop you from getting an $80,000 car more than how much you make at your job. You just have to learn to make certain sacrifices in order to get where you want to be.
And another thing, I would never choose a career because of how much money I'll make or what things I can buy. I hope that when you make a career choice, you look past that, and look for what you like to do, not what you would like to have. I make $24k a year right now but I love my work. I'm not going to college because I want to go to trade school and be a mechanic. Everyone tells me I'd make a great engineer, but the truth is, I'd hate to do that. I like fixing what is broken, not designing new things for people like me to fix. Sure, I'll never make enough money to lay down some cash (or probably even finance) an $80,000 car, but I love what I do. If your only motive in career options is buying an RS4, I pity you because you are going to have a horrible life.
There is more to engineering than designing stuff. It is a platform that enables you to do anything. After graduating I had job offers to do engineering, sales, IT, but i chose engineering. Most of my job has been calling on contractors or manufacturers and ordering parts/doing repair work. I've doen some part design and plant layout. Its been very rewarding in versitility. Granted if you wanted to you could get a job designing pistons for an major engine mfg. Next month it looks like i'll spend some time down on the line getting my hands dirty to understand the process better.
But in the end all engineers become managers. Some hands on in the field, or sit back office jobs, your choice.
Like someone said its not about what you know, its about who you know. So when you do go to school for whatever you feel best make sure you join clubs, i suggest a fraternity, the club for you major, and something else you like to do as a hobby. Get to know your professors, go to every job fair possible.
30 years from now, those 40 people sitting next to you in class are going to be balling CEO, senior xxx, vp or xxx. While in trade school will be getting phat union pay to sit on their ass. Nothing against mechanics, the guys that work for me are a good bunch and i like playing poker/ grilling out with them drink beer watching the BEARS. I also like "business" trips to many cities with some nice golf courses, free education (i'm taking mechanics classes right now at night), and knowing someone that will one day let me test drive his ferrari...
Don't limit yourself to being a wrench turner. 
Now if you want to own a RS4 on a 30k a year income do this.
1. Before you do anything have a 401k or IRA taking 10% off the top before your money touches your hand. (or do 5% retierment, 5% personal invest if you like having cash available)
2. Find a place with low rent,
3. Don't eat out, buy rice, chicken, and bread. Those $1 pops out of the vending machines will eat up so much money its not funny.
4. Drive a car with low ins(don't feck youself with speeding tickets), good on gas, and you can fix for cheap.
5. When the next line of RS4s come out this line will be cheaper and will still be an RS4. There will be many people looking to drop their old ones for an upgrade.
But most importantly remember...
DO NOT GET MARRIED UNTIL YOUR RS4 IS SITTING IN YOUR DIRVEWAY
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/31/2006 4:28:11 PM
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wtf is that supposed to mean? i can afford an rs on my wrench turner salary but "settle" for the s since they aren't bringing the avant to the states. and, i usually understand the components engineers design as well if not better than they do because i deal with them daily in a practical environment. you shouldn't dismiss your underlings simply because they don't have YOUR credentials; somtimes people like being ditch diggers simply because it's a more satisfying accomplishment to dig it than to design it. you wrote that all engineers will be managers. that may be so but remember, being a manager doesn't make someone a leader, it just puts them in charge. think about that before making derogatory statements about the wrench turners; they are the ones that make you shine.
back to the topic, it's all about controlled spending. before you whip out the card on a material item just think about it: do i really NEED this? if you say no, there is another 50, 100, etc. bucks towards your new ride. doesn't sound like much at a glance, but in time that money saved can really accumulate into a healthy downpayment if not purchase.
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/31/2006 5:21:43 PM
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But most importantly remember...
DO NOT GET MARRIED UNTIL YOUR RS4 IS SITTING IN YOUR DIRVEWAY
My RS4 has four rings!!!! My girlfriend has NONE!!!!
chingy, that is the wisest piece of advice i have ever heard on this forum!!!
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/31/2006 5:43:25 PM
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Don't limit yourself to being a wrench turner.
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wtf is that supposed to mean? i can afford an rs on my wrench turner salary but "settle" for the s since they aren't bringing the avant to the states. and, i usually understand the components engineers design as well if not better than they do because i deal with them daily in a practical environment. you shouldn't dismiss your underlings simply because they don't have YOUR credentials; somtimes people like being ditch diggers simply because it's a more satisfying accomplishment to dig it than to design it. you wrote that all engineers will be managers. that may be so but remember, being a manager doesn't make someone a leader, it just puts them in charge. think about that before making derogatory statements about the wrench turners; they are the ones that make you shine.
back to the topic, it's all about controlled spending. before you whip out the card on a material item just think about it: do i really NEED this? if you say no, there is another 50, 100, etc. bucks towards your new ride. doesn't sound like much at a glance, but in time that money saved can really accumulate into a healthy downpayment if not purchase.
Most of my uncles, and brothers are mechaics or factory workers of some kind. They constantly rag on me because I "don't know how things really work. I hastle them back pointing out i get paid more than them to sit on my ass all day. By the end of the day my brother and I have both are heads under the hood of his car. And I don't just stand there telling him thats a spark plug, its designed to plug the spark holes. If you took my comments as an attack I am sorry, i meant them in jest. I wish I could do more hands on work here but i get paid to do other things. So i make up for that in my spare time.
On point,
Cameron was told the he would make a good mechanical engineer. I think he should give it a shot and not pass it off so lightly. If he really wants to be a mechanic thats fine and having a ME degree dosen't eliminate his ability to do mechaical work. I just don't want him to pass up an opportunity based on a sterotype.
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 8/31/2006 6:31:58 PM
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If you took my comments as an attack,I am sorry, i meant them in jest. I wish I could do more hands on work here but i get paid to do other things. So i make up for that in my spare time.
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first off, i don't think it's possible to insult me, i simply get riled up from time to time with certain topics, but they should make everyone think. so that's why i "bite back". we learn from each other, that's what makes us stronger. i see from that comment that you had to chose too. i love the dirt more than the paperwork, and if there was a job that crossed both (i've looked and seen none that do p&d and field equally), i would def. get the degree, or certificate, or whatever the title would be called (i bet a guy like edison qualified for both back in his day), if it meant designing and working with the products to fruition and beyond. those points stood out simply because of the stereotype of blue colar knuckle draggers, and the thought of just getting by since one doesn't have a degree.
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/6/2006 10:25:55 PM
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even if she's frugal? yes, they exist
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DO NOT GET MARRIED UNTIL YOUR RS4 IS SITTING IN YOUR DIRVEWAY
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/8/2006 11:23:56 AM
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i love the dirt more than the paperwork, and if there was a job that crossed both (i've looked and seen none that do p&d and field equally), i would def. get the degree, or certificate, or whatever the title would be called (i bet a guy like edison qualified for both back in his day), if it meant designing and working with the products to fruition and beyond.
You could try and get your own show on the Discover Channel where you get to blow stuff up all day. Call it Myth Busters or something like that... oh wait.
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even if she's frugal? yes, they exist
Its not ususally the wife thats the problem is the extras they bring. Rings, honeymoon, mortgage payments, possibly higher tax bracket, kids with all their demands. Wifes tend to frown on eating ramen noodles more than 3 times a week, etc. Now if you have to buy her a new kitchen appliance or jewlery item every week that only compounds the matter.
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/9/2006 5:49:37 AM
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Its not ususally the wife thats the problem is the extras they bring. Rings, honeymoon, mortgage payments, possibly higher tax bracket, kids with all their demands. Wifes tend to frown on eating ramen noodles more than 3 times a week, etc. Now if you have to buy her a new kitchen appliance or jewlery item every week that only compounds the matter.
wow i wasnt really thinking about all that.. stupid me. f marriage
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/12/2006 3:42:57 AM
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Truth is I know I'll never own one.. but even though its an absolute waste of time, I enjoy dreaming about it.
at the risk of now sounding like yoda, that is why you will fail...
i'm not saying this crap to be inspirational. i'm saying it because for me, it's true. if you want something enough, you will do whatever it takes to make it happen. and not just material things either. you'll strive to make other things happen in your life if you really want it. you can't buy love or beauty or intelligence... but you can buy MONEY! for some people it's easier than others based on your situation but people who had NO money CAN make money in this country. that's the greatness of the US. you don't have to have money to make money. not the case in other parts of the world.
it's not easy, it's not quick and sitting on a forum daydreaming about it won't make it happen. but if you really really want something, you can CHOOSE to make it happen. or CHOOSE not to make it happen.
how do i afford my RS4? i want it bad enough and i make it happen.
LOL - sometimes however the dream is far more pleasent then the reality...concerning cars & just in general. Just because the RS4 is fast and handles well and such...does not necissarily make it the right car - or even the most enjoyable to drive or own - for everyone. I suggest that most young kids would really be happier in a Miata (or such) then in some high powered exotic car...and to properly enjoy the latter without getting oneself and other's killed ussually requires dedication to the art/skill of driving more then just being able to afford one oneday.
Anyway - RS4 is a great car - congrats to all who are owning/enjoying it and good luck to those who are dreaming of one. Also - for those frustrated with Audi service/dealerships (as expressed in this and some other threads)...I feel your pain (and understand your points)
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/13/2006 1:58:08 PM
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If you figure on your money saved earning interest and that the car is going to depreciate. 100 bucks a week you could pay it in full closer to 10 years.
Thats 10 years if you don't do any financing. If you save 100 a week you will have 40k in 7 years. If the car is worth 60k then you can finance that 20k for 5 years costing ~100 a week in payments.
*note all estimation with 5% rates across the board, saving, finance, and depreciation. I don't know how this car will hold its value, or what kind of rate you can get.
Really its not as far off as you think. Just saving $100 a week can be hard.
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/13/2006 2:19:31 PM
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well this is my master plan...since i just saw a black rs4 at a dealer locally and now i've got the biggest bone for that thing...even over jessica alba..
i'm 20..in the airforce..and just got my conditional release signed to switch army and go special forces...so i've got a 20k bonus on the way
now back in october last year i was in tampa bay florida doing some tdy stuff and i met a black guy..sgt in the army with a blue r32...now i **** bricks and he took me for a ride and i **** more..larger..stronger bricks over the car...gawd damn nice ride..
anywho i asked him how he could afford it...he said man i drop every dime into this car..its my love and my life...whats the worse thing that can happen? they take it away..man **** happens and i'll just get another..money comes and goes.
now this guy has owned every gti in the book..16v's 8v's vr6's and now he has his new unicorn the r32.
well i've always been an audi man myself...so i bought a 2000 tt 1.8t fwd. now its not the fastest..most original..expensive thing out there..but it puts a ****ing smile on my face every time i drive it..and thats the point
so back to the plan....my ass is soon to have life paid for me and i'll have all kinds of money and now where to spend it..oh correction...i''ll spend the 1200 a month payment on a rs4..and that avus grey metalic. i figure..if i'm going to sell my life away and do the hardest thing a person can do with there body i'm damn sure going to have a car to enjoy when i get back.
you know it comes down to wants and desire..i'm lusting for this car bad. like **** bad. so whats the worse they can do? take it away..and i'll get another.
i'm 20..but i'm 25 at least in my heart..**** girls and nice clothes..this car is meant for me and i want her so bad! hahahahah well enough about that...and screw the m5..this car owns!
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/13/2006 2:28:10 PM
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Well...that is a good run down of how to invest your money for a car. However, there are a few points I would like to make. First of all-this car won't be around longer than a year-so whatever you are saving the money for today won't be here tomorrow. Second by the time you invest to make the amount an RS4 is currently worth, you will still need to add about 20k to your intitial figure 7-10 (inflation/dollar) years down the road...at least! This car like all cars IS a depreciating assest BUT-the RS model line in itself and this RS4 model hold their value very well. That has been one of my stongest points since joining this site. I almost garantee that in 2-3 years, if the mileage/condition of the car is right, I could easily walk away w/ 55-60k. Some may laugh but I will attach the bill of sale to a thread when it happens IF I decide to sell it. :) Finally, I have investments in other areas and frankly this car is my only means of recreation, therefore it is more than worth the bite to my bank account. Love my RS!!
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/15/2006 2:50:01 AM
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You could just do like that one guy and start with a single red paper clip.
Who knows?
In a year's time maybe you can get an RS4 on trade.
He got a house, so anything's possible!
On a lighter note, there are a few things in MY life that allowed me to enjoy some decent perks by the time I was 25.
(Now 30 with 2 cars, a house, and a little one on the way)
Be somewhere where there's an OPPORTUNITY.
Don't live in the depths of the poorest part of the south, in the poorest part of that state, and in the poorest neighborhood in the poorest city.
I was born in CA and grew up in different places on the east coast.
By the time I was 18, I was living in Rural Hall, NC. Not exactly a "hotbed" of business opportunity.
I made it a goal to get back to California and right before my 21st birthday, I had a plane ticket, a poolstick, a suitcase, and $140 to my name.
But I was heading towards OPPORTUNITY. So I picked a job in electronics which was booming at the time and it proved to be a good decision.
4 years later, I was living by myself in a $1,600 month 2BR apt. by the beach, Driving a brand new BMW, and I had made my first $250k in one year.
Sales is the only way to make SERIOUS money quickly.
The exceptions to this rule are years of college and have a little luck.
Or.....buy a lottery ticket and have a little luck.
Or.....Sell drugs and need a LOT of luck.
You just have to want something bad enough and you have to be willing to go for it.
We live in America. Land of opportunity. Don't ever forget that, and take advantage of it whenever possible.
Good luck.
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/15/2006 5:12:52 AM
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250K/year with an electronics job damn that'd be nice. is that without a college degree
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/15/2006 9:11:10 AM
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I'm 21 and live in SW FL, dropped out of college after 2 years, then got into car sales. After 2 years of making decent money I finally started my career in a completely different field. I am the Executive Sales Manager for a large landscape company. I make a salary of 40k a year plus commissions, on top of that they also pay my car payment/insurance(which combined makes about 800/month... alot of tickets on my old car =X). I bought a nice little 1400 square foot condo, am engaged and have bought my fiancee a nice little loaded up Jetta. I make about 70-75k/year, and from my experiences(though limited they may be). I am not nearly the most successful person on here, not by a long shot, and i'm faaaar from rich, but I completely agree with Evoic... SALES IS THE EASIEST/QUICKEST WAY TO MAKE ALOT OF MONEY! My next car won't be a RS4, but it will be a S4...
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RE: how do you afford your rs4? - 9/15/2006 12:27:45 PM
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250K/year with an electronics job damn that'd be nice. is that without a college degree
I decided that I wanted to make money and have a career.
Since no one was going to be paying me to go to college (in the near term, anyways....) - I chose the business world.
No college degree.
Since I now have 10 yrs in the industry, the degree doesn't really hold me back these days.
I currently run West Coast operations for one of the bigger electronic component distributors in the world.
It's like being drafted to the NBA out of high school.
Score 30 points a night and no one cares about your BA, LOL.
And I don't mean to mislead when I say $250k.
That was one year.
During a boom.
The past 10 years, due to the tendency of sales being up and down, look more like this:
$30k, $50k, $50k, $70k, $250k, $100k, $70k, $90k, $60k, $75k.
If you have a weak stomach, I may recommend AGAINST sales, because if you blank for 2 months - you've got problems.
Anyways. Just keep your eyes on the prize (whatever that may be for you) and work hard.
You'll find your way to where you want to go, eventually.
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