Guys look at this : Compared to conventional techniques such as ID cards, keys, and passwords, the Panasonic Iris Reader system can be much less costly to administer and operate, and can easily accommodate larger numbers of personnel as your needs grow. And unlike ID cards and passwords, Iris Reader is almost impossible to 'spoof' or to counterfeit.
Compared to other types of biometric systems, Panasonic Iris Reader can be more accurate and precise. With a false acceptance ratio of 0.001% to 0.0001%, Iris Reader is:
* 100 to 1,000 times more accurate than spot fingerprinting * 1,000 to 10,000 times more accurate than hand-print verification * 3,000% more accurate than voice-prints
And Panasonic sells this at 360$...its just a small hardeware can be concealed in the mirror, and the application added to the MMI system, to have it priduced and fitted on cars, it would replace immobilizzers or by all ,eans add on them, and as it ould be connected diretly to the car pc there would be no risk of hacking for use of blue tooth or infra red or any other frequency or wave...trully shame on car manufacturars..such a simple thing eleiminates car theft...but ofcource would reduce car sales..there is a conflict of intrest as sellers looking to service at theire best and sellers looking to witholde systems that can realy protect in order to keep sales higher .
Guys we all deserve to have the choice to keep what we pay for, even if i place an order with panasonic for a gadget like that , i would need AUDI to have the MMI accept the application, they even dont give us that option even if we would like to order it .
When a manufacturar decline to look at existing technologie while it can save the intrest of it clients, it means it failed to do it intentionaly for commercial reasons , or unantentionaly with is worst , it means that theire not looking into the best options to service the clients...
Tribus: The bitterness is strong in this one. Registered: March 13, 2000 Posts: 2109 Posted document.write(''+ myTimeZone('Thu, 04 May 2006 09:55:17 GMT-0700', 'May 04, 2006 12:55')+'');May 04, 2006 13:55 May 04, 2006 12:55 This is probably why VW won't give out the ECU keys anymore even if you have all the documentation in the world proving you own the car. I got mine but not before calling every dealer in the state and found one who didn't have the new connection software to Germany yet. Even then I needed the VIN & ECU serial number, the SN is only available if you have a laptop and the required software.
I reckon you could start any VW/Audi pretty easily if you got the code, a laptop, a key fob and some manner of circumventing the locks. Use the laptop to get the info, call the dealer (insider maybe?), add the key transmitter to the security system, turn the ignition and away you go. It would be harder now that the keys aren't available to even the dealers.
I'm assuming the laptop sends a stream of codes until it triggers the lock, which would be a stupid thing for car manufacturers to overlook and easy to implement on new cars. Why not have cars disregard all codes for x minutes if more than a set number are received? Unless there are only handful of possibilities this could prevent brute forcing. Just throwing that out as a possibility, I'm not even sure if that is how the attack works.
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Now if a company new about a flow in teh security system, and did not do anything about it or even gave no warning, i call that intentinal facilitation for theives, false advertisment, etc... the list never ends...all i knwo Audi and VW groupe knew about this mess since may at least and i got My new Audi Q7 stolen, and its not fair at all...nobodey should suffer a thing like that while it could have been prevented...
Hi , am trying to find out now wich company developped the alarm system and the immobilizer for the Q7? and what kind of tests did Audi put it through...according to local police now the total of Q7 stolen in one month in the city of kiev is 9
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Hi,
Guys look at this : Compared to conventional techniques such as ID cards, keys, and passwords, the Panasonic Iris Reader system can be much less costly to administer and operate, and can easily accommodate larger numbers of personnel as your needs grow. And unlike ID cards and passwords, Iris Reader is almost impossible to 'spoof' or to counterfeit.
Compared to other types of biometric systems, Panasonic Iris Reader can be more accurate and precise. With a false acceptance ratio of 0.001% to 0.0001%, Iris Reader is:
* 100 to 1,000 times more accurate than spot fingerprinting * 1,000 to 10,000 times more accurate than hand-print verification * 3,000% more accurate than voice-prints
And Panasonic sells this at 360$...its just a small hardeware can be concealed in the mirror, and the application added to the MMI system, to have it priduced and fitted on cars, it would replace immobilizzers or by all ,eans add on them, and as it ould be connected diretly to the car pc there would be no risk of hacking for use of blue tooth or infra red or any other frequency or wave...trully shame on car manufacturars..such a simple thing eleiminates car theft...but ofcource would reduce car sales..there is a conflict of intrest as sellers looking to service at theire best and sellers looking to witholde systems that can realy protect in order to keep sales higher .
Guys we all deserve to have the choice to keep what we pay for, even if i place an order with panasonic for a gadget like that , i would need AUDI to have the MMI accept the application, they even dont give us that option even if we would like to order it .
When a manufacturar decline to look at existing technologie while it can save the intrest of it clients, it means it failed to do it intentionaly for commercial reasons , or unantentionaly with is worst , it means that theire not looking into the best options to service the clients...
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I don't like the idea of using intrusive measures for security. Once you need to scan your fingerprint/retna that means you are now on file and pretty soon its going to record when you use your vehicle (along with all the information on who exactly is behind the wheel) and with gps its not impossible for it to record every place you travel (all in the name of SECURITY ). Good luck speeding, because if you arrive at point b driving over the speed limit from point a you get a ticket automatically. And next comes the ability for the government to disable your vehicle from starting if you don't pay your parking tickets, and on and on... Welcome to the future...
I don't think all these security measures are going to do much anyway if the police are involved (probably paid off). Looks like you're either going to have to pay up yourself or never see your car again.
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yeah got t stay off the grid..hehe....but what if you just want to toss your friend the keys and say you come get me in a few hours, or hes total wasted ill dive, or take my car and get me at the airport...you will always need some physical "key" can be one of those credit card type things mercedes has..but i think youll always need sometype of physical key
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well in fact i use to have a mercedes S500 loreinser, and nop bodey was even tryingto steel it, cause it have these cards, i was so dum to sell it and to get the audi
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). Good luck speeding, because if you arrive at point b driving over the speed limit from point a you get a ticket automatically. And next comes the ability for the government to disable your vehicle from starting if you don't pay your parking tickets, and on and on... Welcome to the future... 
