View Full Version : 420 at the Flywheel or 420 brake?


2007misanoREDrs4
04-26-2007, 04:33 PM
i always thought that i was getting 420 bhp but now im being told that its 420 at the flywheel,,,,what is it?!

Woodhead2k
04-27-2007, 03:57 AM
The engine (crank) is rated for 420bhp, at the wheels (what you actually get/use)its under 400, not sure what it is exactly.

2007misanoREDrs4
04-27-2007, 07:03 PM
thanks

Chingy
05-01-2007, 03:35 AM
isn't bhp measured from the motor?

S obsessed
05-01-2007, 11:56 PM
horsepower at the crankshaft is called braking horsepower (bhp). Wheel horsepower is called wheel horsepower. (whp)

Flip
05-02-2007, 12:04 AM
The 420 hp figure is crank horsepower, you will dyno less to your wheels as a result of drivetrain loss. Most car manufacturers measure horsepower at the motor unless otherwise stated.

Woodhead2k
05-02-2007, 02:49 AM
ORIGINAL: Flip

The 420 hp figure is crank horsepower, you will dyno less to your wheels as a result of drivetrain loss. Most car manufacturers measure horsepower at the motor unless otherwise stated.


Because it makes it look better ;)

sykotoy
05-02-2007, 09:23 AM
pal dynoed his b7 rs4 221kw @ wheels thats about 300whp

Bondga
05-08-2007, 03:13 AM
^ seems about right. quattro losses about 25% through the tranny

mc13
07-22-2007, 07:08 AM
Guys, its actually around 245kw atw, at least australian models. or 331 bhp whichever you prefer. Awesome for a quattro drivetrain, 20-30% loss of power.

Amazing congrats to the boys at Ingolstadt.

beefyosito
07-23-2007, 07:01 PM
300 whp sounds kinda low. I was at Waterfest Saturday and a kid with a 04' S4 pulled 290 whp on the dyno with just a cat-back exhaust. That would put him at about 348 hp at the crank.