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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 12/31/2007 10:32:46 AM   
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Already answered the first question.  No, your not damaging the engine, the engine is stout and can hold way more than what a ko3 can throw at it. 

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 12/31/2007 12:37:47 PM   
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Thanks alot for the help man, I got two more questions though.
1. You are pumping more air into the engine with this mod, but since its not a chip, you dont add any fuel, so does the computer compensate for that or do you just run a higher air ratio over the fuel ratio? Yes, the computer compensates for the extra air. If you read the posts that has been said about 500 times now.
2. With more air pumped in and increase in pressure in the cylinders, wouldnt that be harsher on the engine? (part of my reliability question) In a way yes but the engines are designed well and it won't cause any problems. Just look at some of the other guys who are running BT setups with over 100K miles and they don't have any problems and they are pushing A LOT more air in than this would ever do.




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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 12/31/2007 12:38:32 PM   
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Beat me to it. LOL

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 12/31/2007 1:23:03 PM   
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Hey cincy my boost gague and MBC are in the mail so expect some pms about tuning after new years. 

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 12/31/2007 1:37:25 PM   
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Your right, sorry for asking the same question, just didnt think it through.  Thanks alot for your help and the nice way to answer my questions.

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/1/2008 1:59:24 PM   
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If i want to run a MBC with this, is this a good one? Also, what type of MBC is this? is this a bleed/ ball&spring?



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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/1/2008 2:01:10 PM   
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NO!!! Stay away from that one!!! I have had nothing but problems when I had it on mine. I eventually just took it off. There have been others who also have had problems as well.

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/1/2008 3:08:11 PM   
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What about either this turbonetics or the NXS:





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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/1/2008 3:20:38 PM   
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The turbonetics is a bleed and is fine, the cheap bottom one is a ball and spring is not a good choice.

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/1/2008 11:36:29 PM   
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Is the turbonetics MBC better than these two?
Hallman:

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Also, would this be a good guage? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-52mm-Turbo-Boost-Meter-Universal-JDM-Smoke-LED-Gauge_W0QQitemZ230207813990QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230207813990#ebayphotohosting
Where can I find this diode?

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 8:52:48 AM   
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Hallman is ok, but still a B&S and will be to fast.  The turboXS one shown is a bleed valve and work great.  However i would suggest spending a little more and getting the hpbc that has both bleed and B&S on it.

THat gauge sucks, just get a VDO, Garrett, or Autometer gauge.  They are all about $40-60 and will be far more accurate and last far longer.

You can find diodes on ebay for about $5 for a pack of 5-10, just search 4.3v diode

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 12:04:04 PM   
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Can you name some brands of hpbc that has both bleed and B&S on it and where i can get one for the least cost?  Also, would you choose the Turbonetics over the TurboXS MBC?
Also, where can I get a DO, Garrett, or Autometer gauge?

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 12:25:40 PM   
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I run the TurboXS hpbc and love it and would take it over any mbc.  The cheapest place i have seen is on ebay for like $110shipped.

VDO - ecstuning and 42dd
garrett- ebay and atpturbo
autometer - ebay, autozone, advance auto, summit etc

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 1:31:37 PM   
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thanks alot man, but is the picture of the turboXS up there the one you are talking about or is it a crappier one?

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 1:42:59 PM   
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its not mine.  The hpbc has a brass fitting on the side where the b&s part goes.  And i wouldnt call that one crappy, its still better than what 90% of the people run on the forums

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 4:54:55 PM   
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Thanks alot for your help.  Is it safe to get a used hpbc?

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 4:57:06 PM   
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they cant really go bad so i dont see why not

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/2/2008 11:20:01 PM   
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Sorry, last two questions.
1. Ive seen something around the forums about a "catch can"?  What is that and do i need one? I tried searching it and I got nothing except for the same post that i heard it at.
2. If i get the turboXS hpbc I can just bypass the n75? What are the benefits of running with it or bypassing it? I keep seeing different views on it, but nobody really explained the actual reasoning behind it.

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/3/2008 10:50:40 AM   
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1) search catch can in the TT for my thread about them
2)Yes you can bypass the n75 with a hpbc.  Bypassing makes the install easy and allows the mbc to completly control boost insteal of having 2 boost controllers.  The only time you should run both is if you have a ball&spring mbc and still use a ko3/4 turbo since they are tiny and that kind of mbc reacts far to fast by itself

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/3/2008 3:06:11 PM   
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Do I need a catch can for almost a stock a4 cept for the diode and hpbc?
Can you list some good but cheap ones and where I can get them?

btw, the two last pics in your thread dont work, just letting you know.http://www.audiforums.com/m_443365/tm.htm

Thanks alot for your patience and help

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/3/2008 3:28:52 PM   
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No you don't need a catch can, you can put one for kicks and giggles but you'll get along fine without one

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 1/3/2008 3:33:20 PM   
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you dont need one but the more pressure in the engine, the more oil that will end up in the intake.  Its always a good idea to have one.  Mine is basically a air compressor filter inline to the intake.  You can get everything from home depot racing for about $30

$14 for the filter
$12 for the fittings (1/4" to 1/2")
$6-10 for hose

BTW, those pics were in my gallery and got deleted for space

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 2/7/2008 3:13:03 PM   
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Would an EBC work just the same, or do you recommend using a MBC?

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 2/8/2008 3:08:58 AM   
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EBC's are the best. Go with an Apexi AVCR they have the most features and you will be able to get the most outof a stock turbo.

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RE: Cheap power, Diode, MBC, and Boost gauge install - 2/8/2008 10:22:05 AM   
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I don't mean this to sound offensive, but if this mod is so cheap and just as effective/safe/reliable as a chip....why are people still paying $500 to get their ecu flashed?  I'm assuming most just don't know about this or don't trust it?


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