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Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/2/2007 7:21:49 PM
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A1C Basinger
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Anybody having this problem? I have a 2000 and I literally have to be within 10 feet to lock or unlock my car. I just put new batteries in the key, so I know its not that. Any ideas?
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/2/2007 7:29:10 PM
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mustang196718
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i think everyone has this problem. it's not the batteries. the only thing i've heard of being done to fix this is to find the antenna (which i've heard is somewhere near the rear seat, but i could be mistaken) and relocate it somewhere where it can receive signals better (ie along the top of the rear seats or somewhere like that). other than that, i'm not really sure if you can do too much else to fix this. let me know if there's some other trick that you figure out though, because i'd definitely be interested.
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/2/2007 7:37:15 PM
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A1C Basinger
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If I could find out where the antenna is I would wire it up somewhere to help it pick up better, but I don't know where to look for it
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/2/2007 8:50:32 PM
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Jeffla
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I had the same problem with my 00 Avant, I changed the batteries with no improvement. I planned on eventually extending the antenna but in the mean time had ordered a new oem remote from a guy in the classifieds here. The new remote work from maybe 30 feet away. So by accident I solved my problem. Why the new remote works any better...I have no idea, but maybe the newer remote has a stronger transmitter in it.
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/3/2007 6:01:57 AM
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Joeski
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I posted almost the exact same thing about 2 weeks ago. There is nothing you can do to increase your distance. It's the transmitter in the keyfob. It has about a 10 to 20Ft maximum from the people I have chatted with who have a model year 2000.
It is an inconvenience!
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/3/2007 7:45:57 PM
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prbayha
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I have the same problem and this is my second AUDI. (both suck) I think we can solve it by relocating the antenna. If I could re-wire the antenna into the GPS dish for the navigation (on the trunk) I might increase distance. Sometimes if the wind blows right I can get 30 feet...hahahaha...Anybody now the exact location of the antennae. I can play guinea pig and try this out. If it works I will post the results. If ya really want to get super technical about it we can research the transmitter frequency and power consumption and hit up radio shack to order something more powerful that will fit. I play around with this stuff so I will let people know.
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/3/2007 7:57:33 PM
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ahh it is nice to see i'm not the only one with this problem :)
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/3/2007 8:39:49 PM
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Jeffla
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I got this from AW,
Keyless Entry range INCREASED to 100ft!!!! And took all of 45 minutes. Posted by: jwt2.7T on 2004-07-29 12:48:26
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In Reply to: Antenna mounted to rear bumper support, above rear exhaust on driver's side.. posted by jwt2.7T on 2004-07-29 10:55:24 Thanks to everyone for their help & input!!! The clincher was a tip from my local VW/Audi tech, who said that the antenna was attached to the rear bumper support on the driver side. Sure enough, there was a coax-looking wire coming out of the body via a gromet & attached by like a tie-wrap to the metal bumper (seen by looking up thru the valence with a flashlight). I then went into the trunk & removed the driver's side panel door & felt around & look around @ the back of the cavity & right by the felt-trunk wall I found the same coax-looking cable. However, it was really just a tube, with an antenna wire running into it. I was able to just pull the ant. out of the tube & continue to pull it out of the wiring harness, next to the jack. I pulled it all the way out till it was @ the roof of the trunk. I then fed it thru the roof of the trunk & into the back of the rear seat & up onto the very back driver side window (the little one). I did this real quick @ lunch & thus could probably pull it even more out of the wiring harness & mount it in an even better place. But, as is, I now get 100ft keyless entry range on my 2000 A6 2.7t, w/o modifying the remote FOB or central locking control module!!!! Yes, now I can open/close my windows from the house. I still don't know where that thing is & really......it doesn't matter at this point. Enjoy the range!!!
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/4/2007 8:05:46 PM
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Crazy Nip
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how do you open and close your windows with your remote? sorry i'm a noob.
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/5/2007 6:19:36 AM
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slee22
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Crazy Nip
how do you open and close your windows with your remote? sorry i'm a noob.
You use VAG-COM (http://www.ross-tech.com) and edit the code for the Central Locking System.
And the instructions Jeff posted work great. The only problem is sometimes the car will lock itself if you are far enough away.
< Message edited by slee22 -- 7/5/2007 6:22:01 AM >
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/5/2007 6:43:47 AM
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Joeski
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Jeff, you are the shiznit! I got to do this this weekend!
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/5/2007 2:34:42 PM
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prbayha
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Thanks Jeffla....I am gong to try this over the weekend.
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/5/2007 4:59:14 PM
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teranenrique
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Yeah I did that to my previous car , 2002 VW Jetta and it does work like a charm, Im just looking for free time to do this to the A6, beat me to it Jeffla 
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/5/2007 7:58:01 PM
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A1C Basinger
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I think I found the tube today. I'll snap a pic and maybe somebody can verify?
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/6/2007 7:27:34 PM
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Joeski
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I found the tube with wire below drivers side tail light and moved wire to the b pillar (small window behind rear door on the drivers side), not to butt heads with previous post but I believe 100 feet is a gracious estimate. With the wire exposed, we (my brother in law and I ) had a consistant range of 35 feet compared to the 10 to 20 feet I used to have. We did have decent reads from 40 feet but no where near 100 feet. We tried several senarios.....wire concealed below "b" pillar window.....wire in the trunk, but the best range had to be with the antenna exposed at the "b" pillar window.
We do not live in a perfect environment which has many "RF" frequencies. I know this coming from a Security and digital surveillance background. We stood directly in front of my drivers side with measuring tape and could not get anything consistant over 35Ft. This is with the antenna exposed at my "b" pillar window!!!!
If you are indeed getting 100Ft. with your key fob, you live in a perfect world! I am going to post pictures of the wire location and where I placed it and you can draw your own conclusions!!!!! Don't get me wrong, I love my additional 15Ft.!!!!
Pics to Follow!
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/7/2007 10:59:25 AM
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Her are pics as promised, sorry they are not great....had to use my camera phone!
Worked on it again this morning with same results as my previous post!!!
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RE: Keyless entry range sucks... - 7/7/2007 11:10:51 AM
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Self-diagnosis of central locking system Fault table for the central locking Notes: ◆ The following table lists all the faults, with the corresponding 5-digit code numbers, that can be recognised by the central locking control unit and printed out by the V.A.G 1551. ◆ Fault codes appear only on print-out. ◆ Before replacing a component shown as faulty, check wiring and connections to component as well as earth connections according to current flow diagram. ◆ Once repairs have been completed, the fault memory is always to be interrogated again with fault reader V.A.G 1551 and erased. The vehicle is then to be relocked (with key or remote) and the fault memory is re-interrogated. ◆ The fault memory records all static and sporadic faults.
When a fault occurs it is immediately identified as a static fault. If fault does not occur again it is registered as a sporadic fault. "/SP" appears on the right of the display. ◆ When ignition is switched on, all existing faults are automatically reclassified as sporadic faults and will only register as static faults if they still occur after testing. ◆ Sporadic faults which no longer occur after 50 opening cycles are erased automatically. Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 00668
Vehicle voltage terminal 30
Signal too low - Battery discharged / defective
- Fault in wiring or connectors - Recharge battery or replace if defective
Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder 00849
S-contact on ignition starter -D
Open circuit/short circuit to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- S-contact defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder
If necessary, replace ignition starter switch 00947
Remote control switch for Tailgate -E188
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Remote control switch-E188 for unlocking tailgate defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 00951
Rel. for t/gate rem.ctrol.switch -J398
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Tailgate/boot lid remote control unlocking motor -V151 defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder
Replace tailgate/boot lid remote control unlocking motor -V151 00952
Signal driver's door open
Short to positive - Short in the wiring - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 00955
Key 1 (adaption limit exceeded) - Key operated more than 200 times while out of range - Perform key matching procedure => Page 01-127 00956
Key 2 (adaption limit exceeded) - Key operated more than 200 times while out of range - Perform key matching procedure => Page 01-127 00957
Key 3 (adaption limit exceeded) - Key operated more than 200 times while out of range - Perform key matching procedure => Page 01-127 00958
Key 4 (adaption limit exceeded) - Key operated more than 200 times while out of range - Perform key matching procedure => Page 01-127 Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 00991
Interior lighting
Short to positive - Short in the wiring - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder 01141
TG/BL release switch -E165
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Release switch tailgate/boot lid -E165 defective. - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01366
Opening via crash signal
Short to earth
Open circuit/short to positive - Final control diagnosis on the airbag control unit -J234 or on the central locking control unit -J429 has been performed
- Airbag control unit -J234 triggered by crash situation
- Short or open circuit in wiring or in connections between airbag control unit -J234 and central locking control unit -J429 - Delete fault memory => Page 01-202
Check wiring and connections between airbag control unit -J234 and central locking control unit -J429 according to current flow diagram and repair if necessary
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01368
Alarm from boot switch - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised opening of the tailgate.
- Contact switch in tailgate/boot lid -F218 defective.
- False alarm. - Delete fault memory => Page 01369
Alarm from bonnet switch - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised opening of the bonnet
- Contact switch bonnet lid -F120 defective.
- False alarm. - Erase fault memory 01370
Alarm from interior monitor
Short to earth - ATW has triggered as a result of interior monitor
- Control unit for ultrasonic sensors -J347 defective
- Short circuit in the wiring between the ultrasonic sensors control unit -J347 and the central locking control unit -J429
- False alarm. - Erase fault memory
Fault-finding after self-diagnosis ultrasonic interior monitor=> Page 01-133
Check wiring between ultrasonic sensors control unit -J347 and central locking control unit -J429 according to current flow diagram and repair if necessary
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01371
Alarm triggered by driver's door contact switch. - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised opening of driver's door.
- Door contact switch -F2 defective
- False alarm. - Delete fault memory => Page 01373
Alarm triggered by earth contact
Radio - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised removal of radio.
- Earth connection for ATW is interrupted
- False alarm. - Erase fault memory
Establish earth connection.
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder 01374
Alarm from terminal 15 - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised starting (short-circuiting).
- Short-circuit between terminals 30 and 15.
- False alarm. - Erase fault memory
Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01389
Open switch for tailgate -F124.
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Switch boot lid -F124 defective. - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01482
Motors for central locking
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Motors for central locking defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01557
Close contact switch in locking cylinder pass. side FS -F241
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Contact switch -F241 defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01558
Close contact switch locking cylinder FS -F241
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Contact switch -F241 defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01559
Driver's door
does not lock
does not unlock
safe does not engage 1)
safe does not disengage 1) - Mechanical defect in door lock
- Open circuit
- Short to earth
- Relay adhesive in central locking control unit (see also HST 4.5- 361/1) - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01560
passenger door.
does not lock
does not unlock
safe does not engage 1)
safe does not disengage 1) - Mechanical defect in door lock
- Open circuit
- Short to earth
- Relay adhesive in central locking control unit (see also HST 4.5- 361/1) - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 1) not applicable for the USA Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01561
Door rear left
does not lock
does not unlock
safe does not engage 1)
safe does not disengage 1) - Mechanical defect in door lock
- Open circuit
- Short to earth - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01562
Door rear right
does not lock
does not unlock
safe does not engage 1)
safe does not disengage 1) - Mechanical defect in door lock
- Open circuit
- Short to earth - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01563
Interior lock switch driver's side -E150, LOCK
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Switch for interior locking -E150 defective - Fault find. accord. to current flow diagr. 1) not applicable for the USA Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01564
Interior lock switch driver's side -E150, UNLOCK
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Switch for interior locking -E150 defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01565
Luggage compartment light -W3
Short to earth
Short to positive - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Luggage compartment light -W3 defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01566
Activate signal for interior monitor
Short to positive - Interior monitoring is not activated, no function
- Short in the wiring - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01568
Signal for comfort opening
Short to positive - Short in the wiring - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder 01569
Signal for comfort closing
Short to positive - Short in the wiring - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder 01570
Switch-off delay terminal 15
Short to positive
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Short in the wiring - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder 01571
Signal for seat memory
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring. - Fault finding according to current flow diagram
=> Current Flow Diagrams, Electrical Fault-finding and Fitting Locations binder Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01572
Alarm via door contact switch, passenger side - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised opening of the passenger door.
- Door contact switch -F3 defective - Delete fault memory => Page 01573
Alarm triggered by rear left door contact switch - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised opening of rear left door
- Door contact switch -F10 defective - Erase fault memory 01574
Alarm triggered by rear door contact switch - ATW has triggered as a result of unauthorised opening of rear right door
- Door contact switch -F11 defective - Erase fault memory Output on printer V.A.G 1551 Possible causes of fault Fault remedy 01581
Wrong component recognised 1) - Wiring incorrect
- Wrong door locks fitted - Check wiring
Fit correct door locks 01585
Close contact switch in locking cylinder pass. side -F242
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Contact switch -F242 defective - Fault finding according to current flow diagram 01586
Close contact switch in locking cylinder pass. side pa -F242
Short to earth - Short to earth in the wiring.
- Contact switch -F242 defective - Fault find. accord. to current flow diagr. 65535
Control unit defective - Central locking control unit -J429 defective - Replace central locking control unit -J429 1) USA onlyVAG OR OTHER SOFTWARE REQUIRED
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I can't friggin find the "tube". 
