Hello,everyone. There is something weird going on with 1995 Audi A6. I start the car, when I press on the gas pedal, it gets to about 3 rpm's and than the car shutsoff. Me and my dad cheked the fuel filter that works and the fuel pump is good. Also we cheked the spark plugs, they work fine. So what could be causing this problem. Its 1995 Audi A6 FWD, I dont even know if it has the VAG-Computer port. Need help ASAP
Jeffla
07-16-2007, 03:15 PM
So after 3000k rpm the car dies? How do you know the fuel filter is good? Were you able to check the flow rate? Why is the fuel pump good, just because its running does not mean its working correctly. Do you have the ability to pressure test the fuel system? Was it running just fine yesterday?
Welcome to the world of old german cars, let the fun begin. I don't believe a 95 would have the standard vag-com port.
millenia
07-16-2007, 03:36 PM
well it looks like the fuel pump is in good shape, and the fuel filter looks to be fine, we usually deal with bimmers and benz's and only newer audis, so how would i get the fuel pressure???
millenia
07-16-2007, 03:38 PM
the car started doing that when i was going up a hill on saturday
millenia
07-16-2007, 03:55 PM
also i disconected the fuel line from the tank and wen u turn on the ignition, there is gas running at pretty good flow from the gas tank
millenia
07-16-2007, 04:02 PM
also there is this hissing sound wen the car is running, is that normal???
slee22
07-16-2007, 04:46 PM
If there is a hissing,that could bea vacuum leak check your hoses.
millenia
07-16-2007, 04:52 PM
i m new to audi's i m only 16, so which hoses should i check, the ones around the engine or under the car???
millenia
07-16-2007, 04:59 PM
on rear part of the mufler there is a little hole, and the hissing is comming from the left rear side, thats where the mufler is, so could that be causing the problem?
P.S. the gas tank is above the muffler, it might be the fuel pump, probably has a vacum, so it might be a leak in the fuel line, but there is no gasoline dripping from bottom of the car, so anyone else got any ideas? also would my engine computer be doing that???
Jeffla
07-16-2007, 06:38 PM
Just buy a new fuel filter, there cheap and people never change them anyways so your due for one.. I know on my car it is solid metal so I don't know how you could tell if it was good or bad by looking at it. Also, just because the fuel pump is pumping does not mean it is pumping enough. Check for vacuum leaks under the hood, I don't know this car at all, but assuming your 2.8 is the same as a 00 2.8, looked for cracked or broken hoses. But my assumption is your fuel filter plugged, because you generally don't suddenly loose power over 3k.
millenia
07-16-2007, 07:12 PM
well there is this hissing sound, and after the car shuts off, there is this hissing sound under the hood for about 30 seconds. well could i get the fuel filter off, with out taking the gas tank, and if i need to do that, how would i do, anyone got any diagrams or pics or instruction, thanks alot guys, to this point you helped me alot, thanks in advance;)
Jeffla
07-16-2007, 07:40 PM
The search option is your best friend. Look here for a general vacuum diagram : http://www.audiforums.com/m_529162/tm.htm
Also the best resourse for almost anything Audi is: http://sonolithics.com/files/a6_links.html
Vacuum hoses have been known to suddenly fall off. My old Saab 9k used to blow off this one hose all the time, causing the idle to get fuc*ed up. The best thing you can do is spend the next two hours or so following every vacuum line you can see and seeing if it is in good condition or not.
millenia
07-16-2007, 07:59 PM
thanks jeff, you've great help, thanks alot, preciate it
millenia
07-16-2007, 08:07 PM
does the vacum line go around the whole car or just around the engine
kjbakke2
07-16-2007, 08:28 PM
the hissing sound could be your radiator
i knomw mine does it on my truck and thats brand new
just odd things of the car world i guess
so dont focus on the hissing sound too much
check your fuel lines
and your vaccumn lines under your hood.....start at your M.A.F. and work back
good luck
millenia
07-16-2007, 08:41 PM
well fuel line is good the gas has good flow, i was thinking that the fuel filter is clogged up, but i m wondering how would i get it off the tank
millenia
07-16-2007, 08:51 PM
where is the mfa
millenia
07-16-2007, 09:20 PM
my dad is saying that the engine computer might be going bad, would something like that cause the problem?
Jeffla
07-16-2007, 09:50 PM
I highly doubt your engine computer is bad. You need to check your fuel pressure with a fuel pressure gauge. Find a buddy that knows how to do it. You obviously have enough fuel pressure to get the car to 3k, but do you have enough when the engine is loaded at 3k? The ONLY way to test this, is with a fuel pressure gauge. What specifically does your car do at 3k. Does it just shut off, does it miss then die, if brought to 2999k and you take your foot off the gas does it recover or still die. Does it start immediately after dying? Be very specific on what it does at 3k, and how it dies. Is your check engine light on?
millenia
07-16-2007, 10:12 PM
Ok, so the car starts up choking a little, but it starts. It gets up to 2999k and if let it go, than it recovers, if i get to 3 or more, than the car shuts off like its choking and than i try starting it up and than it starts up.
99A6Q
07-16-2007, 11:06 PM
sounds like it could be a idle air control module. I had a 1995 Audi 90 with that problem. If you were driving down the road and let of the gas it would just cut off. Avacuum leak could also be suspect. I am not sure if your car is equipped with it, but the 'hissing' sound that you speak of could bethe secondary air pump that runs for about aminute when the car is cranked.Lack of fuel pressure could also cause this. I dont see your fuel filter being clogged causing that though, that would cause it to run pretty crappy all the time. There should be a port somewhere on the fuel rail that you can screw on a fuel pressure tester to see how much you have.
auditech79
07-16-2007, 11:18 PM
You need to start with the basics man, most likely its a dirty throttle body and or a vaccum leak.
Take off the hose to the TB start the engine and spray a whole bottle of chemtool carb cleaner down the intake while someone is flooring it (its gonna want to die) That should make it idle smooth as all hell.
If that doesn't fix it trace the hissing noise which is probably gonna be your vaccum leak. The most efficient way to search for a vaccum leak is to use a propane can and spray it around the engine when its running, if the rpm starts racing up you found the where the leak is. ;)
millenia
07-16-2007, 11:45 PM
where could i get propane can, and i need some more info, where the throttle vacum
auditech79
07-16-2007, 11:55 PM
Oh man, well the throttle body is the valve that controls your engine speed, or butterfly valve.
Follow the main intake line to the throttle body on the back of the engine if you have the 2.8L.
Take off the clamp on the throttle body, pull off the hose and you should see the big steel valve, when you press the gas pedal the throttle cable pulls open the valve and direct air into the engine, this is where you will be spraying in the chemtool. You can get a propane torch at any autoparts store or go to the home depot. Your not actually lighting the torch, just venting the propane around the engine.
millenia
07-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Will it be hard to find that and is it hard to reach that stuff. I'm just 16, and new to Audis, so sorry if I'll have some more questions I'm just getting fimiliar with the car. I love the car its just it started doing it on Saturday after noon when I was comming home and I was going up a hill in my neighborhood. Is there a diagram that shows where the valves are located?
Thanks a lot
Yoshi
auditech79
07-17-2007, 12:12 AM
Nah dude, its a single big ass valve. Start at the airbox, follow the rubber line to where its connected to the big steel/aluminum thing. Take the rubber hose off the metal thing and you should see a large valve inside there. Its all visible from the top of the engine really easy. Do a search for throttle body problems in the forum and you should be able to get a picture.
millenia
07-17-2007, 12:14 AM
If it goes over 3000k rpm's it dies, so how do i get it to floor while i m spraying the chemtool stuff, or will it idle while i m spraying that stuff?
auditech79
07-17-2007, 12:17 AM
No it will try and die on you, it doesn't combust very easy and it breaks away all the carbon on the intake valves, intake manifold, TB, ect. So just try and keep it from dieing.
millenia
07-17-2007, 12:22 AM
So i should just should spray the whole can of it there while its idling and getting floored, so i m gonna do that tommorow, if i will have some more problems i ll post them up, thanks alot
thanks
yoshi
auditech79
07-17-2007, 12:31 AM
Yeah but have someone flooring the gas pedal while you are spraying the chemtool into it, thats the key.
millenia
07-17-2007, 12:41 AM
Aight thanks, so its probably a leak or the TB thing dirty?
auditech79
07-17-2007, 12:51 AM
Yeah but this will clean everything in the intake system so it takes care of a lot. If that doesn't help then start looking for a leak.
millenia
07-17-2007, 12:55 AM
is that chemtool crap expensive, so i ll spray some propane around the engine, so i start the car up and if my rpm's go up automatically, that means there's a leak, so than i just gotta find where it is, but to me it sounds like the intake thing is dirty, cuz the car sounds like its choking
auditech79
07-17-2007, 01:01 AM
Yeah thats why i told you to do it. You can use any carb cleaner that usually costs around $5.
But an vaccum leak will make it seem like the engine is "choking" because it doesn't recognize where the air is coming into the engine and it adds fuel to compensate.
millenia
07-17-2007, 01:07 AM
so finding that valve shouldnt be a pain in the ass, so just trace that fat plastic hose that goes to the engine take that off and there should be the valve
auditech79
07-17-2007, 01:12 AM
Thats about it mate, good luck. Cheers!
millenia
07-17-2007, 01:19 AM
so spraying propane around the engine is not dangeros it wont go on fire or anything, so how much should i spray?
auditech79
07-17-2007, 01:25 AM
No it can be quite dangerous, don't put it too close to the exhaust manifolds, or have someone stupid smoking or something dumb like that.
millenia
07-17-2007, 01:32 AM
so just spray a little of it and not to close to the engine?
auditech79
07-17-2007, 01:37 AM
Just around the areas where you see vaccum lines, on top of the engine, and to the sides, just don't spray too much on the rear corners of the engine where its really hot.
millenia
07-17-2007, 10:44 AM
is it possible that mym exhausr system would be doing this? cuz in the front drivers side exhaust thing, there is this clicking sound when the car is running, so maybe the exhaust is cloged up with some crap in it
millenia
07-17-2007, 02:17 PM
Ok, got this figured out, turns out my front exaust part is clogged up, particularly left side. So tommorow the car should be done.It's in my dads deallership. Tommorow one of his mechanics gonna weld the mufler and it should be done. With out the exaust the car runs perfectly. So thanks for the help and advices you guys gave me. So til tommorow I get to drive 2006 S4 6spd manual. ( Not my its just in the dealership).
Thanks
-Yoshi-
Jeffla
07-17-2007, 05:33 PM
Glad you got that worked out.
vrso2
07-17-2007, 06:46 PM
oki, i had same problem (10-12 years ago). Also nobody figure out, what's wrong. But i have one smart friend, and he just check preasure of gas, behind gas pump. There was not preasure enought for blast gast thru injectors. All i recommend is change gas filter and gas pump.
PS: go to local junk yard, and ask for those parts. Also check ypur gas tank for some kinde of dirt on the bottom. (that's what destroy gas pump and clog gas filter).
Good luck.