I am posting this because I am sick of hearing the guy in my class brags about his mustang. I dont know much about car and I dont race either, but this guy is keep on insisting that we should race. Im in a class full of girls and this guy want to prove his manliness by beating me because he been racing every girls in the class just to show off his car, but no one was impressed, and the girls said if he want to race, he should race me because they all think my audi is way better than his mustang. So since then he been after me. I think my car can beat him, but I just want some reassurance from you guy so i wont look like a fool. I have 2002 2.7t stock and he has 1999 mustang convertible, stock also. I just want to shut him up so he'll leave me alone. Any advices would be appreciated.

Here is the 0-60 + 1/4

1999 Ford Mustang Convertible V6 8.6 16.5

if he has a stock v8 it will be close race stock v8 mustang are 14.9-15.0 dependint on driver...and audi are about the same with a automatic right?
i have a 2000 Mustang GT, V8, Convertible, and it pulls really good and i also have a 2000 audi a6 2.7T. i would say the mustang would pull top end on the audi.

it all depend if his is a v6....then u will take him no problem. but if its a v8 then it will be a close match. if your running at the track.

is your car a manual or automatic and what about his...V8 stick will take your audi stock for stock. but dont quote me.

thank for the replies, he has a stock v6 automatic, mine also automatic. I was pretty confident that I can take him, but I just needed some assurance. Thank guy.

yea you will smoke him is it going to be at the track? dont tell him your about your Twins lol

Looks like I was late with my response. V6??? Go spank his ass and tell him to call you Poppa Bear from hear on out. And like Silver said..DON'T TELL HIM ABOUT YOUR TWIN TURBOS!!! Then rag on him on how a family luxury sedan whooped his ass.

I hate Fords anyway [:@]

when he ask what was taht whistin from the engine tellhiim you was whistlin at all the ladies ;) and the T in 2.7T is Touring edition :) lol

LOL Silver....good one. Touring sedan. I'm going to use that when I get all the goodies done to my car.

You'll take that V6 very easily. The V8 might be another story. I was nose to nose with my buddy's GS430....I felt like I was in high school racing my Mustang...I haven't done that in so many years.

Find a starting point that contains some loose sand or water so you can show him the distinct advantage of the Quattro system while you are at it!

It would be hillarious to see you get about5 or 6car lengths ahead of him before he could evenget traction, but with a V6 under the hood of that Mustang I don't think he would really be in danger of putting too much power to the rear wheels.

Have fun with him....and be sure and fill us in on the results!

We want VIDEO!!!!!! lol or some hot lil mammiis up agianst the winning car with bikini on! LOL![sm=kiss.gif]

i will tell you all about it when im done. thank guy, i knew i can count on you guy.

ORIGINAL: SilverGT

We want VIDEO!!!!!! lol or some hot lil mammiis up agianst the winning car with bikini on! LOL![sm=kiss.gif]


Yes....chicks in bikinis would be good...lol.

But in all seriousness, be safe. Don't do it in traffic.. PERIOD!!! We've all seen the crashes. Goto a track or a very deserted road. Make sure it is dry outside for two reasons. 1) Safety - You don't want to tear your car up because you or him couldn't control your car. 2) Complaints - You don't want him to have any reason to have an excuse as to why you whooped him. You only need to beat him one good time. After that, you have bragging rights. Simply say "Why do I need to beat youagain? That ass-whoopin wasn't good enough?"

I wish you could capture the look on his face when he looses.

Anway, be safe and have fun. In that order...

ORIGINAL: katcoota

I wish you could capture the look on his face when he looses.

Anway, be safe and have fun. In that order...


that could be easy.....bring a digital and shot a picture when his car is behind yours. it might look like this [sm=jawdrop.gif]or this [sm=noooo.gif]or this [sm=sick.gif][sm=oopssign.gif][sm=massbounce.gif][sm=hiya.gif]all that good stuff

Hmm... a douche bag with the fastest mustang in the world, what are the odds....[:@]

After you beat him, go double or nothing over who can get the highest grade in the class. If you young bucks are gonna lock horns, at least do it over something that improves your chances of being successful in life and staying out of jail.

make sure you put all the girls in your car while you race him so they can all laugh at him with you.

as a point of refrence I can beat my brothers 99 mustang V8 pritty bad but I have a strong chip and a few other suporting mods.

find a clear road and kick a$$

If its stock V6 you will most definately smoke his ass BADLY. Now if you say he's been racing for many years...beware of mods... most likely hes a poser, after you have beaten him recommend the biggest Honda dealer in your area, tell him "You can have the same results, but you will get 40+ mpg, and you can do this:" http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/6d/Vtecdriver.jpg

Ok here is the most exciting result we all been waiting on. I have never done anything this crazy in my life, this was the first and it sure got my adrenalin sky rocketed, and I wouldn't do it again though. I beat him on two different occassion. The first one was from a stop light, and this was a little bit more of a race than the 2nd time. The road started out with two land and in about a quarter mile or so the right land merged into one lane. When the lightturned green, we both just go at it. He was ahead of me for about a second or two then i caught up and pulled ahead of him. I was ahead enough to merge in front of him. He didnt admit he lose, his excuse was he wasn't trying. I just told him that he is lame. The second time was when we were on I 90. I was going 60's so he came up on my left and looked at me and stepped on the gas. I stepped on the gas just a split second after he did. He was ahead for just a few second but I caught up fast after i feel like the audi finally kick into gear. He was was way behind me, and when i looked down on my speedometer, i was already close to 110mph. I never thought the audi can go from 60 to 100+ that fast. I had a camry before, so going 80's was fast for me. Now I appreciate my Audi even more. I actually got a complement from him after the second time. So that's my story. I was dedicating the race to you guy on my favorite forum.

Awesome....glad it worked and even even more happy that nobody was hurt. Now you can put it to rest and the next time he trys to suggest you race again you tell him you have nothing left to prove.

Be sure you ask him to explain the details in your class though....you might as well milk it out in front of the chickies.

Where are the pictures he will give u the lame excuse of no proof and he said he beat you lol. that why when i race it always recorded! or proof from other people watchin lol. anyways: Im still waiting on the hot lil mami on the hood of the car in their bikini!!!

you racedo n the I 90? i live near the I-90 in buffalo lol.

Good job! I just saw this post! I have raced the new 2007 V8 mustang GT's and stayed with them. On the highway i usually get the advantage and pull out about a car length before they give up. From the dig.......I usually get about 1.5 to 2 car lengths and they they stay there. The Quattro's definitely help here! When the Turbo's spool up things get a little further between us but nothing extrodinary...just a slight cruise ahead of them a little more. It's funny when they go to grab a gear the Stang's lose about a 1/2 car length each time!

I have race a really niced "2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS" Newer 350Z before This guy had it all. I had my son with me and he was checking out the car as was I. Right before the light turned green he wanted to rev on me but I ignored him and laughed it off. I guess he really wanted to race cuz he rolled down his window and called me a "Pussy!"......Now he had my attention. He took off an got a good start ahead of me....Then all of a sudden this grocery getter....completely stock BTW goes buzzing past him! I slowed down for him and then he wants to go from a roll-on.....Okay.....That one was worse than from the stop sign! He had no chance at all! I slowed down again, I was done fooling around, and as he passed my son and I rolled down the window and we were laughing our asses off and pointing at him as he went by!!!!! So funny!

I will tell you though. I raced the new 07 Accord? They guy was with me better than the fixed up 350z! I don't know if he had anything done but wow! I would get the jump but he was there from then on and I could not pull away. We stopped at the light and he asked me what kind of stuff was on my car and looked surprised when I told him it was stock. He must have had something done to his accord but that one was fast!

LOL

If you think 60-to-100 feels fast in a stock 2.7T, try chipping it. You get pushed back into the seat and it's in triple figures in no time. And I rarely bother to downshift - just leave in it 6th.

Good job on the win.

Hmm, guys, i'm jealous :( My 2.8 is not that fast then 2.7 T :( Before i bought 2.8 i was thinking about 2.7T, but that Twin turbos maked me scare. Turbos have to be repaced over 100k. Now i'm enjoying my smoothy ride called 2.8 :)

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If you think 60-to-100 feels fast in a stock 2.7T, try chipping it. You get pushed back into the seat and it's in triple figures in no time. And I rarely bother to downshift - just leave in it 6th.

Good job on the win.

Now that I gota liitle taste ofthe audi speed rush, I really want to get mine chip also. I have always baby my car when I accelerate, but wow, that car is a beast when I stepped on it hard. It got both the beauty and the power. Does chipping work for the automatic also or only for manual?

Chipping works for both auto and manual tranny. If you want even more performance out of your auto you can even get a transmission ECU upgrade from GIAC that makes the shifting lighting fast. I'd love to have both, but not sure when I will be able to justify the cost.

I guess the chip itself isn't so bad, but then you add on new DVs, a throttle body boot, piggy pipes....it all starts to add up.

Hey guys. What about A6 (2.7 of course) vs. Charger? My friend (a girl) has V8 Hemi whatever that means and she said it willsmoke me like nobody's business. And I think she'sright. I checked the specs and her beast has somewhere around 450 HP. I know the car performance is sum of all factors not only pure HPs but she has like 200HP more which should take careabout pretty much everything.
Now I know I can smoke these Chargers with loud paintwork. You know what I mean. I think they call it DaytonaSRT or something like that.(pardon my ignorance)

To chanrith, im glad you raced the v6 mustang, cause buying a musting with a six is like dating a girlfriend withou tits its just not as much fun. And to Stank0 yah I think you will have a hard time against the charger, it is going to do close to a 5 second 0-60, depending on the driver im assuming its a stick, if its not tell her to go buy one that is. If your chipped and have a catback exhaust and think your a better driver and if your car is a stick you may win. I would just do it anyway just for laughs, she cant say much you have a 250hp six and she has a poorly made v8 with 450hp. It be great if she missed a gear and you ended up winning :)

ORIGINAL: tmgolfx360
I would just do it anyway just for laughs, she cant say much you have a 250hp six and she has a poorly made v8 with 450hp. It be great if she missed a gear and you ended up winning :)

Make sure it just rained or its raining too...;)

Those new chargers are auto only... what pieces of crap. Even if she can beat you, just laugh at her for buying a Dodge...

Couldn't agree with you more. The outside looks alrite, but the inside just looks cheap. The highway troopers started to use a lot of these cars now in where I live for chasing after sport car.
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Those new chargers are auto only... what pieces of crap. Even if she can beat you, just laugh at her for buying a Dodge...

after reading the post. first, congrat's beating that mustang.

just my suggestion,
go take some driving course at racing school. man it will improve you more.
and always race on circuit. I had friend hat used to race in Japan on circuit, he took me down to empty field and taught me how to drive instead of going to school and I learned a lot. it was like 3 month he was willing to teach me.
and driving on curved course is more fun than just driving it straight also. he used to have mustang, and that time I had 300zx. in the beginning, he beat me no matter what car I drove, even his car and he drove mine he still beat me to it. but in the end, I was able to keep up with it. that's about same time that I got in drifting also.

well I've done street race in younger years and I'm done with it. only race on circuit if I ever want to drive really fast. safe and control enviornment it's more fun to run your car and also get to meet lot of people

Awesome work on spanking the stang... Do you know I can not find anyone to run me??? I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2L with an APR ECU upgrade, Hotchkins sway bars, Tein coil overs, K&N Filter, Brembo rotor kit and a nice addition in my trunk. So without the addition in my trunk I am only running 350-360ish and with the little beauty in the trunk it puts me at 525.. I do not see why people will not run me?????

Beauty in the trunk?

Nitrous Express dual stage setup, 175hp shot..... My beauty in the trunk.....

ORIGINAL: Stank0

Hey guys. What about A6 (2.7 of course) vs. Charger? My friend (a girl) has V8 Hemi whatever that means and she said it willsmoke me like nobody's business. And I think she'sright. I checked the specs and her beast has somewhere around 450 HP. I know the car performance is sum of all factors not only pure HPs but she has like 200HP more which should take careabout pretty much everything.
Now I know I can smoke these Chargers with loud paintwork. You know what I mean. I think they call it DaytonaSRT or something like that.(pardon my ignorance)



All theDaytona is, is a Charger R/T with stickers on it(5.7L V8 340 HP, 4000 lbs) the engine is nice, the transmission is not for racing, they use the Chrysler 300 transmission.....you can beat this one. The Charger SRT-8 and the 300 SRT-8 will laugh at you all day (6.1L V8 425HP), don't do it to yourself.

ORIGINAL: Cappachinoo
All theDaytona is, is a Charger R/T with stickers on it(5.7L V8 340 HP, 4000 lbs) the engine is nice, the transmission is not for racing, they use the Chrysler 300 transmission.....you can beat this one. The Charger SRT-8 and the 300 SRT-8 will laugh at you all day (6.1L V8 425HP), don't do it to yourself.


Yea, I think I took one of them R/Ts by surprise. I was getting on I95 on really sharp ramp. And while I was accelerating, he couldn't go as fast on that curve. When we got on the highway, we were already doing 60-65. On the straight road he stepped on it, but I had the RPMs and he gave up when we were doing around 125-130 with himstill behind me.
I drive 03 stock A6 with sports option btw.

Aren't some of them chargers awd too?

Oh and when you all talking about understeer.. what are you talking about??? I never exporienced any understeering. If I make fast sharp turn, she just turns.The tires will squeal a bit, but the slide is totally balanced.

Now I know if you push it beyond limits and "fishtail" quattro, it's much harder to recover. It happened to me with my old Audi 200. (no esp/abs) on the snow thaks to my stupidity. I recovered only thanks to big deal of luck. (in my young years I thgought I'm invincible - thank god I survived those years without an accident).

If it was OT, sorry.

Some Magnums and Chargers come AWD, the SRT-8 are only RWD

Understeer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understeer

ORIGINAL: Cappachinoo

Some Magnums and Chargers come AWD, the SRT-8 are only RWD

Understeer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understeer


LOL I know what understeer means, I just never experienced it with my car so I was wondering what all you people are talking about.
Maybe it's that sport option I've got. I'm not sure what everything it contains - I didn't drive the "regular"A6, (only 100 and 200s)butmycarfeels totally balanced.

Your crazy k5gixxer! There's no way you could keep up with a Mustang GT! They must have had a manual and didn't know how to drive (shift) well because I've beat many an Audi Mostly I like ti kill A8 Quattro's and still looking for a A8 W12 to embarrass! By the time I shift into 3rd all the Audi drivers whimp out cuz I have a full car to 1 1/2 car length lead! That was with an stock '06.

ORIGINAL: k5gixxer

Good job!Â* I just saw this post!Â* I have raced the new 2007 V8 mustang GT's and stayed with them.Â* On the highway i usually get the advantage and pull out about a car length before they give up.Â* From the dig.......I usually get about 1.5 to 2 car lengths and they they stay there.Â* The Quattro's definitely help here!Â* When the Turbo's spool up things get a little further between us but nothing extrodinary...just a slight cruise ahead of them a little more.Â* It's funny when they go to grab a gear the Stang's lose about a 1/2 car length each time!Â*

I have race a really niced "2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS" Newer 350Z beforeÂ* This guy had it all.Â* I had my son with me and he was checking out the car as was I.Â* Right before the light turned green he wanted to rev on me but I ignored him and laughed it off.Â* I guess he really wanted to race cuz he rolled down his window and called me a "Pussy!"......Now he had my attention.Â* He took off an got a good start ahead of me....Then all of a sudden this grocery getter....completely stock BTW goes buzzing past him!Â* I slowed down for him and then he wants to go from a roll-on.....Okay.....That one was worse than from the stop sign!Â* He had no chance at all!Â* I slowed down again,Â* I was done fooling around, and as he passed my son and I rolled down the window and we were laughing our asses off and pointing at him as he went by!!!!!Â* So funny!

I will tell you though.Â* I raced the new 07 Accord?Â* They guy was with me better than the fixed up 350z!Â* I don't know if he had anything done but wow!Â* I would get the jump but he was there from then on and I could not pull away.Â* We stopped at the light and he asked me what kind of stuff was on my car and looked surprised when I told him it was stock.Â* He must have had something done to his accord but that one was fast!

Great forum and very entertaining. Congrats on the win. I love how people underestimate these cars and are then beaten by them.

I've raced a few different cars myself. I kept up pretty good with my friends Crossfire which wasn't much of a race. We were taking a left turn and he decided to gun it so I was like Ok, and he had less than half a cars length ahead of me. Those new Mercury Sables have a lot of surprising power. The Premier ones I think it is. My friends dad has one and we raced just for fun one night down an empty 1/4 and he kept up pretty decently. Raced this one mexican kid with a suped up Acura. An oldie, mid 90's I think. Supposedly "300 hp". Smoked him with his girlfriend with him hahaha. One of my friends just got a new 08' Mustang with the V8 and manual. I don't think its a GT though. I'll race him after I get my cylinder misfire fixed but do I even have a chance? It pulls really hard. I've also been challenged by someone whose supposedly supposed to get a Pontiac GTO. Any chance against both of these?

Stock. 01' A6 2.7t Tip

The mustang question was kinda answered by k5gixxer and ovrpar. But this one is an 08' not an 07' and I dont think its a GT. Any difference?

ORIGINAL: ovrpar

Your crazy k5gixxer! There's no way you could keep up with a Mustang GT! They must have had a manual and didn't know how to drive (shift) well because I've beat many an Audi Mostly I like ti kill A8 Quattro's and still looking for a A8 W12 to embarrass! By the time I shift into 3rd all the Audi drivers whimp out cuz I have a full car to 1 1/2 car length lead! That was with an stock '06.

ORIGINAL: k5gixxer

Good job! I just saw this post! I have raced the new 2007 V8 mustang GT's and stayed with them. On the highway i usually get the advantage and pull out about a car length before they give up. From the dig.......I usually get about 1.5 to 2 car lengths and they they stay there. The Quattro's definitely help here! When the Turbo's spool up things get a little further between us but nothing extrodinary...just a slight cruise ahead of them a little more. It's funny when they go to grab a gear the Stang's lose about a 1/2 car length each time!

I have race a really niced "2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS" Newer 350Z before This guy had it all. I had my son with me and he was checking out the car as was I. Right before the light turned green he wanted to rev on me but I ignored him and laughed it off. I guess he really wanted to race cuz he rolled down his window and called me a "Pussy!"......Now he had my attention. He took off an got a good start ahead of me....Then all of a sudden this grocery getter....completely stock BTW goes buzzing past him! I slowed down for him and then he wants to go from a roll-on.....Okay.....That one was worse than from the stop sign! He had no chance at all! I slowed down again, I was done fooling around, and as he passed my son and I rolled down the window and we were laughing our asses off and pointing at him as he went by!!!!! So funny!

I will tell you though. I raced the new 07 Accord? They guy was with me better than the fixed up 350z! I don't know if he had anything done but wow! I would get the jump but he was there from then on and I could not pull away. We stopped at the light and he asked me what kind of stuff was on my car and looked surprised when I told him it was stock. He must have had something done to his accord but that one was fast!





i beat a mustang gt three tries in a row about 2 weeks ago ... it wasnt even close either??

ORIGINAL: ovrpar

Your crazy k5gixxer! There's no way you could keep up with a Mustang GT! They must have had a manual and didn't know how to drive (shift) well because I've beat many an Audi Mostly I like ti kill A8 Quattro's and still looking for a A8 W12 to embarrass! By the time I shift into 3rd all the Audi drivers whimp out cuz I have a full car to 1 1/2 car length lead! That was with an stock '06.

ORIGINAL: k5gixxer

Good job! I just saw this post! I have raced the new 2007 V8 mustang GT's and stayed with them. On the highway i usually get the advantage and pull out about a car length before they give up. From the dig.......I usually get about 1.5 to 2 car lengths and they they stay there. The Quattro's definitely help here! When the Turbo's spool up things get a little further between us but nothing extrodinary...just a slight cruise ahead of them a little more. It's funny when they go to grab a gear the Stang's lose about a 1/2 car length each time!

I have race a really niced "2 FAST, 2 FURIOUS" Newer 350Z before This guy had it all. I had my son with me and he was checking out the car as was I. Right before the light turned green he wanted to rev on me but I ignored him and laughed it off. I guess he really wanted to race cuz he rolled down his window and called me a "Pussy!"......Now he had my attention. He took off an got a good start ahead of me....Then all of a sudden this grocery getter....completely stock BTW goes buzzing past him! I slowed down for him and then he wants to go from a roll-on.....Okay.....That one was worse than from the stop sign! He had no chance at all! I slowed down again, I was done fooling around, and as he passed my son and I rolled down the window and we were laughing our asses off and pointing at him as he went by!!!!! So funny!

I will tell you though. I raced the new 07 Accord? They guy was with me better than the fixed up 350z! I don't know if he had anything done but wow! I would get the jump but he was there from then on and I could not pull away. We stopped at the light and he asked me what kind of stuff was on my car and looked surprised when I told him it was stock. He must have had something done to his accord but that one was fast!



A8 W12 > Your GT

An Audi A8 W12 isn't really a car anyone would race. If you find one some rich guy will probably be driving it back to their house which has a garage full of exotics.

a8, a8w12, a6 2.7t ---- bottom line a mustang (probably one of the worst cars traction-wise) aint touchin them gt or not ... cobra or modded gt is a diff story but stock to stock:

v6 mustang < 2.7t, a8
gt < or = 2.7t, a8

w12 will demolish anything and itll do it respectfully

look up the times b4 you say something ovrpar this is an audi forum and if u come in bangin on audis ull stand corrected

ovrpar, you sir are seriously retarded.
an a8 w-12 is huge, and big, and heavy.
but will so easily rape your GT.
and will rape it with 3 passengers and a trunk full of luggage. and even a baby seat in the rear middle seat.
get off the crack before you make another post.

what make the v6 mustang think he is fast?? it's only 190hp right? even if the Audi is heavy, that extra 60 hp should take care of everything~

Me smoking? Yeah my tires and a w12 too!

At the test track, that automatic combines with the A8's all-wheel drive and 19-inch Pirelli P6 tires to produce the world's most boring launches, but the car is quick. We measured 0-to-60-mph performance at 5.8 seconds, and the quarter-mile at 13.8 seconds at 102 mph. Remarkable performance for a 4,700-pound car.

0 to 60 in 5.8 LOL!

A stock '06 Mustang GT are faster: 0-60 in 5.0 with 1/4 mile 13.7 sec @ 103 mph.

Now that said and done mine is modified with AFE stage 2 CAI, SCT Brenspeed tune, cat backs Hurst short throw and 3:73 gears
and sub 5 times to 60!

Know your facts before you post Audi boy!

ORIGINAL: pilihp2

ovrpar, you sir are seriously retarded.
an a8 w-12 is huge, and big, and heavy.
but will so easily rape your GT.
and will rape it with 3 passengers and a trunk full of luggage. and even a baby seat in the rear middle seat.
get off the crack before you make another post.

#s on paper don't mean jack! Honestly!!!!! So many facotrs to consider...
and at the end of the day, A mustang is still the same POS whether a 5 or 4 or 6 second car! owned one and never gong back!
I killed a GT on the Hwy wht my car and the guys wasn't so proud!
I do think a GT would kill a stock 2.7 though...

ROFL. You had to mod your Mustang to be able to even compare though man. If I bought a mustang, I would HAVE to mod it to not feel liek a tool driving it.

Audi's come just how I want em, and if I feel so inclined, I can make it even sexier and more badass than it already is.

FORD doesn't get that, at all.

why are you on this forum? do you even own an audi ovrpar .... if the answer is no take yourself and the piece of trash you wasted your money on and go talk about it with people who actually care ... also if your in the PA area ill give you a run for your money

You know what I think I'm just going to buy a Honda Civic there better than Audi's and with a fart cannon will rape an A8 W12, not to mention those slow s4's and 2.7ters. But I don't think I'll have enough power to beat that Mustang V6 though!

Fact: Mustang GT was invented before the wheel.

solution: Set up the race. Line up. Let him take off. Pick up cutest girl and take her someplace. Enjoy

ORIGINAL: AZAudiA6Q

Fact: Mustang GT was invented before the wheel.



what are you implying?

ORIGINAL: joetm

ORIGINAL: AZAudiA6Q

Fact: Mustang GT was invented before the wheel.



what are you implying?


The mustang is shitty?

I have to admit the new Mustang is leaps and bounds better compared to the previous one! COngrats to Ford but it still lacks a lot... Still a cheap sport cars.. but you do get a lot for the $... I would rather spend the same $ on a different car but it is a matter of taste...

someone driving the a8 w12 will most likely not raceyour car... it is a fast car made for cruising and you would bepathetic if you are going to try to race one, the owner of the a8 will most likely have a sports car too that would just rape your car if he wanted to race you. plus mustangs, give me a break, people will always look at an audi over the mustang....
and you had to mod your mustangto even try racing one,the w12would rape it stock.

the a8 w12 is much better than a mustang and it is a winner over your car anyday, they aren't even on the same scale, price ranges aren't even close... just being the fastest is everything, that car is still much much better andsuperior than the mustang...
judging from the posts, no one cares about ford mustangs... it's more about audis ("audi" forums)

and the engines, dont even compare the w12 to your pathetic v8 made by ford

not to be rude or anything... i justdont like mustangs but w/e, it's your car and you have to like it... ^^^that's just my opinion

but seriously, do you even own an audi? go to some other forum and preach about your mustang over there were at least there would be some people who would actually care...

To his defense a 99-04 stang will crush our audi's stock for stock, its just plain and simple. I dont know if any of you who posted have actually been in one, they pull pretty hard. They arnt supposed to be luxury cars like ours, they are meant to drive fast for a little amount of money. I've always been a fan of the stang, and support them. Like gigi stated about tho, if you've got a stage 2+ audi 2.7 you can do work on them :)

ORIGINAL: krelly

To his defense a 99-04 stang will crush our audi's stock for stock, its just plain and simple. I dont know if any of you who posted have actually been in one, they pull pretty hard. They arnt supposed to be luxury cars like ours, they are meant to drive fast for a little amount of money. I've always been a fan of the stang, and support them. Like gigi stated about tho, if you've got a stage 2+ audi 2.7 you can do work on them :)


Depends what mustang and what audi, that was a very vague stagement.

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Fact: Mustang GT was invented before the wheel.



what are you implying?


Since I have to explain, there is no more implication.... basically this d-bag thinks that his mustang is awesome at everything and God chose it to be his chariot.

Meanwhile back in reality his car is a a cookie cutter car, that SAME car that I avoided like the plague when shopping for a new vehicle 4 months ago.

One man's (Me)trash (mustang) is another man's (ovrpar) treasure.

ORIGINAL: a6in

ORIGINAL: krelly

To his defense a 99-04 stang will crush our audi's stock for stock, its just plain and simple. I dont know if any of you who posted have actually been in one, they pull pretty hard. They arnt supposed to be luxury cars like ours, they are meant to drive fast for a little amount of money. I've always been a fan of the stang, and support them. Like gigi stated about tho, if you've got a stage 2+ audi 2.7 you can do work on them :)



Depends what mustang and what audi, that was a very vague stagement.




I was talking about the mustang GT (4.6 V8) and the audi 2.7T. Reason i brought this up is because there is a ton of bashing on the Mustang. Im personally a fan, and while others are just being biased because they own an audi, i respect the power of the stang. If i had the extra cash to pick up a drag/highway lurker, id pick up a mustang because with very little money you can acheive a ton of power.

Well this is an audi forum, so i must say mustangs, gt or not, are pieces of crap. Ive killed one by about 1.5 carlengths on a 40-100 pull. I dont know about mustangs acheiving a ton of power, besides, id rather have half the power in german ponies than american pos's.

well i did say that is just my opinion... but he should have known he would have it coming when he posted something like that here where everybody is an audi fanatic. numbers to prove him or not, i still dont care if it faster.... i
i'd even take the A8 itself over the mustang rather yet the w12, the A8s are beautiful.

and yes, i have several friends who own mustangs from the 90s to eventhe newest ones and i could still care less. have you ever noticed how cheap and low qualitythey look especially inside?

but as formulagigi said, it is a matter of taste.

Mustangs sucks @$$! LOL that's just a biased opinion considering every mustang I've seen that isn't stock is driven by an a-hole that has a small penis syndrome.

Well, besides that fact that most of us agree that this is a completly worthless waste of server space... The mustang is complete crap. I'm just glad that the newer mustangs finally got rid of leaf springs. Seriously a v6 mustang is -200hp stock, even the mighty GT only manages 255hp stock with a V8. I really don't get how american car companies can get so little power out of a engine.

no way.....mustang used to use leaf spring??? I thought those are like...truck only....

Your right, the Corvette uses leaf springs I got them confused. The mustang does use a live axel though.

ahahaha seriously... they can't extract much hp from each L, american cars around 5.0L most of the time produce 220-260hp max. which is funny... take a look at what Europeans can do with the 5.0L range, double the amount of hp

seriously though how do they do it? lol, maybe the oil industry has a thing to do with it, such big engines>low power>low mpg.

Only producing 220-260? Hopefully, you're kidding. I had an '05 GTO that was 400 HP at 6.0L got better gas mileage highway than my '01 2.7. 1 more thing...please don't get me wrong, I hate Mustakes, but the '03-'04 Cobra's with a catback, pully, and intake run 11's all day long. Z06's do that stock now. The new G8's have 362HP. THE V6's have 300HP. Obviously, different cars and different car companies do things differently. That's what makes cars so much fun!

i was being sarcastic (i thought you'd figure)
i dont like mustangs... but i do respect the new Shelby GT500 and the 1967 one (can't argue with that)
and i like vettes and GTOs are nice... but that is where the list stops.

i was kidding, you took me too serious...
i was talking about the crown vics, town cars, and the suvs hahahaha you have to make fun of them

i beat a crustang with my supercharged 4runner... obviously stock v8 auto... i also beat my own old p00nstang with a light pole once. anything to get another one off the road though

I did take it serious. My bad. It's so hard reading sarcasm.....I need a class.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ive been reading this thread and laughing my ass of! WOW! Ok guys let me start with this: audi is a very nice car in many aspects, quatro system is awesome, beautifull interior, good handling in all weather conditions, nise body lines. NOW. thanx for showing ur love towards mustangs and as priveous 03 cobra owner i got some surprises for u guys. First of all, as a sport car audi is no match for a mustang. U take an average A6 against average mustang gt and gt will take it. Plus finding a stock gt these days its like finding a virgin. And even moded, after spending over $10k on your ko4 setup stock gt with $4k kenne bell setup will take u like u were standing. U do have huge adventage in a 1/4 by having quatro system and still stock for stock, moded for moded gt will take u. Aftermarket for mustangs is so huge and considerably cheap. I do like audi as a 4 door luxury sport sedan but please lets not get cared away. mustang built to be moded and u be surpised how chep and easy it is. I got stock 03 cobra with midlenth headers, that put down 395 hp at the wheels. After custom tune with increase of boost from 8 to 10.5psi ($395 installed), 3' catback ($425) and K&N ram air intake system ($175) my cobra dynoes 483 rwhp. thats close to 90 whp for less then $1000 instaled and tuned. Ran low 12s all day long on street tires with me driving it. Another $400-$500 put me in high 11s. On the higway iv been beating c5 zo6s, 6.ol gtos, moded stis, evos, tons of civics, vw, srt4, srt8s couple of vipers. With another $2k in maximum motorsport syspension components it will handle at 160 like stock at 60.
And bragin about beating v6 mustang is like picking on retarded kid. we all know they suck.
So how about u try out srt8, cobras, 6.0l gtos, vettes, srt4, evos, wrxs and let me know how it goes.....make sure its not a chick driving it.
And dont get me wrong a6 is a great car and even better daily driver.....but if u want to realy go fast u may want to get something lighter and with more balls, less costy maintance and performance parts.
Thats my 5 cents in this forum.

Wow, the numbers being thrown are great! Yes the Cobra and GT are fast, and have nice body styling, but the interior is generic typical ford out of the bin components.

People look at the exterior and think the car looks aggressive and clean, then they get in and think Americans just can't design nice interiors for the life of 'em.

Plus the suspenion is horrible across the board; it's stone age, dating back to the 70's even on the "Cobra", solid rear axle, you're kidding me right... people are always bragging about driving at high speeds in straight lines, who cares.

You couldn't beat any of those cars you mentioned on a winding road, track any Mustang and ride around some cones see how good you do.

This is so stupid, my first post too...

Blah blah blah mustang, blah blah blah cheap, blah blah blah fast, blah blah blah racing....

Mustang is a mustang is a mustang is a mustang!!! Sure, I could spend money on making a shitty car better.... OR.... I could buy a REALLY NICE car and spend money to make it EVEN NICER.... Get it?

Who cares if you make a stock GT into a rip roaring window shattering baby scaring machine.... there's not much else you CAN do with it besides mod it or crash it.

Audi, however, offers me a choice.
1.) Drive my car easy and comfortably safe while still displaying style and grace.

or

2.) Mod my Audi and make it into something most people have never seen before while still maintaining its sex appeal.

Mod'd Audi > Mod'd Ford

ORIGINAL: madrussian

First of all, as a sport car audi is no match for a mustang. U take an average A6 against average mustang gt and gt will take it. Plus finding a stock gt these days its like finding a virgin. And even moded, after spending over $10k on your ko4 setup stock gt with $4k kenne bell setup will take u like u were standing. U do have huge adventage in a 1/4 by having quatro system and still stock for stock, moded for moded gt will take u. Aftermarket for mustangs is so huge and considerably cheap. I do like audi as a 4 door luxury sport sedan but please lets not get cared away. mustang built to be moded and u be surpised how chep and easy it is. I got stock 03 cobra with midlenth headers, that put down 395 hp at the wheels. After custom tune with increase of boost from 8 to 10.5psi ($395 installed), 3' catback ($425) and K&N ram air intake system ($175) my cobra dynoes 483 rwhp. thats close to 90 whp for less then $1000 instaled and tuned. Ran low 12s all day long on street tires with me driving it. Another $400-$500 put me in high 11s. On the higway iv been beating c5 zo6s, 6.ol gtos, moded stis, evos, tons of civics, vw, srt4, srt8s couple of vipers. With another $2k in maximum motorsport syspension components it will handle at 160 like stock at 60.
And bragin about beating v6 mustang is like picking on retarded kid. we all know they suck.
So how about u try out srt8, cobras, 6.0l gtos, vettes, srt4, evos, wrxs and let me know how it goes.....make sure its not a chick driving it.
And dont get me wrong a6 is a great car and even better daily driver.....but if u want to realy go fast u may want to get something lighter and with more balls, less costy maintance and performance parts.
Thats my 5 cents in this forum.


The first bolded sentence makes me laugh, sorry I don't mean laugh at you.. I actually owned a mustang before and sold it wihtin a year.. It was a the biggest piece of junk I had ever own. I liked my fiat Uno 60 better! The car is a staight line car only and even then a GT is not that fast! The engine is not efficient in its power output considering the displacement. The mustang is a wanabe sport car. A Sport car should NOT BE THAT HEAVY and handle this bad! Suspension sucks. The brakes were not that good either. it only looked like a sport car. I have to admit the new model is light years ahead of the previous one but it is still not agood sport car IMO.
And just to be clear the A6 never pretended to be a sport car though mine can outrun and outhandle a GT. Personally I did not buy an A6 to run 1/4 mile track events, few of us did... We would have picked the wrong car. it is a four door sedan weighing almost 4000 lbs, loses 25% of its power thru its quattro drivetrain (you said advantage above in your post?) especially in TIP version.
And oh my god, the mustang interior is horrible...
Knowing that I have a good looking car that has one of the best interior in the industry, with enough room to haul my 3 little ones and my wife with luggage and that it handles better than most sport car wannabes while stil beating most at a red light or on the hwy... I am happy with my choice and will most happily concede a 1/4 mile race to a crappy but heavily modded mustang.
That being said, the stang offers a lot for the $ and has a different target audience in the car market

BTW this thread is like the energizer bunny, it keeps going and going and going....

man...this thing just goes on and on and on......

Wellmustangs may not have best intereor in its class however they not to bad, i can leave with my "shity" intereor and my"shity" italianseude and leather seatsthat still retail used for over $1.2k, knowing that i can beat something that is worth lots more money. And seriously, hom many people race on the "twisties"? Most of them end upon the side of the roadanyway. Actualy not all the mostangs got straight axel..... 03-04 cobras were factory standart with IRS and 3.55 gears that some people running stock with close to 600rwtq. And i thought this forum was about beating a mustang on straight line. Actualy a well build, all aroundfox body mustang ('85-'93) for about $12-$15k will outrun your A6 on eather track, 1/4 or road track.

Im agree, that this two cars are different class, thats why i just got my 2.7t A6. For me A6 is a daily beater, luxurios, comfy, stylish, safe, quatro for abad weather and yet its still lil faster than most of the traffic out on the street. But when weekends come, and its nice and sunny outside thats when i roll out my cobra to play. And if we would cross on the highway you wouldnt stand a chance, A6 ko4 or rs6. And thats just facts.

The Cobra you said you don't have anymore? The Cobra you're selling? Or the Cobra you drive on the weekends...

and no an A6 costing less money after being tuned/modded, would take a fox body and your average Cobra of compairable cost, beat 'em in corners and straight lines too, a 2000+ A6 only cost $10k+.

Adding Bolt ons and mods spending money to match the cost of the vehicles your compairing it to, the A6 would win and look better inside and out doing it. We aren't talking about a $40k 2008 A6 here, never were. A 2003 Cobra cost about $25k+, that's $15k that can be thrown into the A6, the Cobra would be detroyed.

...yeah the cobra i had to sell ufortenatly, needed money for the house/ Funny, i got it two years ago for $21k, put about no more then $2k into it, about 35k miles, took it to a drag strip almost every weekend and the only thing i had to spend money on is gas and tires! Try that with your audi. Every where i go i got atention, thumbs up, and nothing but complements. And after 2 years i sold the car for $23k. Next year starting hunt for a turbo '04 cobra.......750rwhp on 21psi.....?
And EVENT, u must be smoking crak...... these days u can find a low milage kenne bell or whimpled cobra with near 600rwhp doing high 10s in a 1/4 for about $25k. lets face it your 4000+ lb A6 with 25% drivetrain loss and endless list of isues after more than 350hp will not stand a chance up against an average 475-500 rwhp cobra, and please dont say u better at the twisties, how many times did u took your car to and actual road track?

I never said I was, I said the car itself was, why the hell would I race my beloved daily driver? If I wanna race it'll be in something small and fun, like my gen 2 teg I flipped 3 months ago.

Honestly I think racing on the streets is retarded, I just enjoy driving fast, as long as I'm the only one in the car.

This whole argument is crazy, so lets just leave alone. Fast cars are great and there is always someone/thing faster.

Hell if I could afford it I'd say the f*ck with all this and cop me the new GTR that's finally coming to the states, $70k is a lot to ask though.

Holla!

70 ... i went to the dealer the other day n they are at 120k haha^^^^^

u put 15 k into a 10k audi and you can say bye bye cobra ... thats a fact ... my cousin has an s4 that he has put about 20+ grand into and it destroys all ... he had to get a roll cage n 5 point safety harness in it to take it to the track bc they kicked him off

15k in an Audi = Overkill!!!!

I could only imagine how much better I could make my car if I had 15k to spend on it... jesus.

Serioudly though, mod'ing a Mustang is like... putting rims on a Taurus. There's not much else you can do.

i just said 15 k be mustang = 25k used audi = 10 k used and you would have 15 grand to do whatever ud like with if you were compairing the two

Listen....I love my A6, and I also have nothing against Mustangs, but there are vast differences between the two.

If you want refinement, comfort, a quiet polished ride, a boatload of amenities, and smooth acceleration with fantastic grip and handling….get an Audi.

If you want raw tire smoking power, then go ahead and grab a Mustang.

There is only one problem….Mustangs can’t turn! They STILL use the very dated and obsolete solid rear axle due to Ford’s refusal to give the new Mustang what it deserves. Yes the older style SVT Cobra had IRS, but they also suffered from broken half shafts to the point it was clear Ford had no idea how to properly setup a rear end on a performance car. Meanwhile aftermarket tuners like Roush seem to do just fine, and they can produce a car with a properly setup rear end that is far superior to anything Ford can do themselves.

I don’t know if anyone here watches the show Top Gear, but they took out a brand spankin’ new Mustang Shelby GT500 and it was embarrassing. Yes it sounds mean with the supercharger whine and tuned exhaust. Yes it has tons of power on tap and yes the straight line acceleration is amazing, but put that thing into a corner…..any corner, and it falls apart. They raced it through their standard course and it came in at 1:30:00 - below cars with 150 fewer horsepower. It came in below the EVO (1:28:9), it was below the WRX (1:29:4), and it was even below a W12 GTI (1:29:6) that they openly admitted was absolutely unmanageable in the corners, yet it still beat the Mustang.

And just look at the company it keeps….at 1:30:1 you have the regular (non WRX) Subaru Impreza with 281hp (about 220 LESS than the Mustang), and at 1:30:4 you have the VW Golf R32…..a car that has 250 FEWER HORSEPOWER!!!!!!

Yes….congratulations Mustang fans – you have a real winner there.

And does anyone still wonder why Ford LOST $2.7 BILLION last year?

Owned

after reading this thread ive lost a lot of respect for audi owners in general, you people have what i like to call honda syndrome, you think that your little grocery getter, designed for the middle aged woman/college student is high performance vehicle, and oooo you have the quatro system, that must mean you have the best car ever made hands down, the only person i know that owns an audi says its unreliable and hes been putting a lot of cash into it to buy overpriced foreign parts, sure it can handle good but on any twisties / roadcoarse theres gonna be at least some amout of strait away in it and thats where the mustang will gain the lead, 99-04 cobras have irs, people break halfshafts launching hard at high power, its not a ford problem its like this will all irs vehicles, 500rwhp + launching at 4500 rpms consistently is gonna break something eventually, its not like its a 200 hp a/4 or something, how can any of you bash a car that youve never driven or riden in before? theres nothing thrilling about going 1/4 in 16 seconds

have fun sinking 10k into your cute little cars trying to run with 03-04 cobras with 1500 bucks in them

ORIGINAL: ppgoal

If you think 60-to-100 feels fast in a stock 2.7T, try chipping it. You get pushed back into the seat and it's in triple figures in no time. And I rarely bother to downshift - just leave in it 6th.

Good job on the win.

lmao

ORIGINAL: madrussian
Actualy a well build, all aroundfox body mustang ('85-'93) for about $12-$15k will outrun your A6 on eather track, 1/4 or road track.


LOL.

Why the hell are you comparing a huge 4 door sedan to a Mustang Cobra? Do you know what an s4 with ko4's, Stage3++ would do to most of your mullet mobile cobras runnin. Good job comparing fords fastest production car of the year to a more roomier 4 door sedan. Lets compare the ford countour to a RS6.

That top gear episode was hilarious. They used a sharpie to write ALMOST after the gt500 because it was significantly short of its advertised 500bhp.

ORIGINAL: WeezyTT

ORIGINAL: madrussian
Actualy a well build, all aroundfox body mustang ('85-'93) for about $12-$15k will outrun your A6 on eather track, 1/4 or road track.


LOL.

Why the hell are you comparing a huge 4 door sedan to a Mustang Cobra? Do you know what an s4 with ko4's, Stage3++ would do to most of your mullet mobile cobras runnin. Good job comparing fords fastest production car of the year to a more roomier 4 door sedan. Lets compare the ford countour to a RS6.

That top gear episode was hilarious. They used a sharpie to write ALMOST after the gt500 because it was significantly short of its advertised 500bhp.




Yes u absolutley right, A6 and cobra....any mustang in general is different cars. And this is my point, to be shiting all over other car that can go faster just so u can feel better about slower car that u have. The new C6 ZO6 is a pure beast even in stock form, and yet i dont go braging abot how much it costs, thats its chevy, uncomfartable and noisy and so on......New ZO6 is simply better and thats it. Same for your A6, its a good car for the money and has something that mustang dont, but its defenatly not the power. And i drove both A6 and bunch of different mustangs, from stock v6 to a turboed cobra and fun factor its defenatly goes to mustang. If u look at the comfort, room, safety its defenatly A6 and thats what they designed for.

"This setup made 890 RWHP at 21.8 Psi on a Mustang dyno. The power is still climbing nicely at 6600 with no sign of peaking! MAF pegged up top on the 21.8 psi pull. So we were done until a MAF setup capable of more power is installed. Plan was to go back an hit 1000, that was before I decided to sell it.
The turbo/motor set up should make 1000+ fairly easily with an HPX maf sensor and 24-25 psi (the sensor change would require re-tune). The set-up showed no signs of being closed to maxed out.
This car is just plain fun to drive and down right scary to ride in. Drivability is excellent,better than stock IMO. Jon Lund even commented on how nicely it ran compared to similar set ups. It has as not seen over 17psi with the TT set up except on the dyno, no need for more on the street. It made 765 on at 17psi. The car is just plain retarded on 17psi.
Here is a build thread.."


http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=469870 <<<<check this out


yes he asks $45k for it but its less then a price tag on RS6 and no A6 S6 RS6 S4 RS4 or even new audi supercar, i think its R8, will stand a chance up against it on the higway, 1/4. On twisties its too much power. And there a lot of 700+ rwhp turbo cobras that do 9s and run all year long with no problems for about $30k.......

http://thumbs.streetfire.net/41614e83-2fac-49b0-afbf-c7d8c3ba71d1.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/KB-cobra-audi-s4-TT-Goat-04-cobra-pullied_55450.htm)KB cobra, audi s4 TT Goat 04 cobra pullied (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/KB-cobra-audi-s4-TT-Goat-04-cobra-pullied_55450.htm)

http://thumbs.streetfire.net/bf19be74-3d61-4e64-9b90-9a490107ccb5.jpg (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Twin-Turbo-Cobra_151145.htm)Twin Turbo Cobra (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Twin-Turbo-Cobra_151145.htm)

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AntiV6 has two posts, 2 in this thread
Sounds like someone created a 2nd id with a purpose...

No matter the ET... AUDI still > Mustang.
I personally can't care less if my car runs 10 or 11 secs. But if in ran 1/4 mile tack I would definitely not pick an Audi.
on the road though and as a DD, The Audi sure beats the Mustang overall.

Agreed. The diehard Mustang fans ignore the most obvious point....that 99.9% of your driving isn't "racing" but is simply going from point A to point B.

I don't care how fast a Mustang will go in a straight line....that isn't the point because unless you are planning to take it to a dragstrip that does you absolutely no good whatsoever. The real world involves corners, and I would much rather have an Audi for my daily commute than a Ford. Hands down - no question whatsoever.

They are merely two different classes of cars. If the only measurement of automobiles was horsepower or straight line acceleration, everyone would own a car with a supercharged V8, but this is the real world where 'performance' is so much more. The fact is, as much as anyone here has bragged up their mustangs, I could spend half that much on a Sportbike from Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, or Ducatti and beat it not only in the 1/4, but 0-60, 0-100, 100-0, skidpad, road coarse, cornering, handling....you name it. So if someone is really concerned with how fast they can go and that is their only goal - then they better ditch the car for the bike. Otherwise, their comparison is flawed.

In any case, I would much rather have something that can seatfour adults comfortably and something that has four doors. For anyone who has kids or a family, a two door Mustang makes absolutely no sense, and besides impressing your PBR drinking NASCAR buddies they really aren't very practical. In a perfect world maybe we all would have 10 car garages so we could have such a car simply for Sunday drives, but for a daily driver the Mustang simply doesn't hold up against most other cars on the market today, and anyone with a non-biased non-blue oval love affair, could see that.

The ironic thing is we have people trolling Audi forums just to bash Audis and brag about Mustangs. That should tell you something about the character and intelligence of some of these Mustang fans right there.

ORIGINAL: Costner

Agreed. The diehard Mustang fans ignore the most obvious point....that 99.9% of your driving isn't "racing" but is simply going from point A to point B.

I don't care how fast a Mustang will go in a straight line....that isn't the point because unless you are planning to take it to a dragstrip that does you absolutely no good whatsoever. The real world involves corners, and I would much rather have an Audi for my daily commute than a Ford. Hands down - no question whatsoever.

They are merely two different classes of cars. If the only measurement of automobiles was horsepower or straight line acceleration, everyone would own a car with a supercharged V8, but this is the real world where 'performance' is so much more. The fact is, as much as anyone here has bragged up their mustangs, I could spend half that much on a Sportbike from Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, or Ducatti and beat it not only in the 1/4, but 0-60, 0-100, 100-0, skidpad, road coarse, cornering, handling....you name it. So if someone is really concerned with how fast they can go and that is their only goal - then they better ditch the car for the bike. Otherwise, their comparison is flawed.

In any case, I would much rather have something that can seatfour adults comfortably and something that has four doors. For anyone who has kids or a family, a two door Mustang makes absolutely no sense, and besides impressing your PBR drinking NASCAR buddies they really aren't very practical. In a perfect world maybe we all would have 10 car garages so we could have such a car simply for Sunday drives, but for a daily driver the Mustang simply doesn't hold up against most other cars on the market today, and anyone with a non-biased non-blue oval love affair, could see that.

The ironic thing is we have people trolling Audi forums just to bash Audis and brag about Mustangs. That should tell you something about the character and intelligence of some of these Mustang fans right there.



You guys are hopeless. im not saying that audi is trash, im trying to tell u that it two different cars build for different purpose. And i do admit that a6 is a better daily driver, however as far as a performance car, for drag, or street or highway mustang is better. Its not a best handling car in the world and it does have a traction and oversteer problem but i never see anyone on the street offer me to race on the twisties. Well i knew 2 guys one with evoIX and another with built up civic Si that were all about twisties.....both of them totaled there cars on a twiestie road. Im not big fan of street racing anymore, however i like to play around on the highways every now and then and on the highway my cobra was handling well enough at 140-150 mph with stock suspension. however closer to 160 it feels more and more like a big boat. $300 H&R race springs will cure that.
And its ok to post that u raced some one and beat him but dont shit all over the other car just because it goes faster. And if u consider ur beeng batter at the road track, well next time u see a cobra reving next to u, just dont race him on the straight adn ofer him to follow u to a local road track.

And if u race with people in the back, or even better, your kids.....im sorry you are just playing retarded. I dont whant to go faster then a 100 with my wife in pasenger sit with the helmet and a 5 point harnes around her.


Bikes are different things, however there are cobras out there that racing bikes....and leave them behind. U can get a bike if u want too..... but think about this: if in a car u get in an acident, chances are- u going to WALK away from it..... if u get in an acident in a bike, chances are- u going to be bared in a closed casket.

http://www.audiforums.com/models/a6/images/2005-Audi-A6-interior.jpg
lmao thats probably the ugliest dash set up ive ever seen, all of the interior arguments are stupid, you have plastic dashes also, atleast cobras have suede seats

We mock what we cannot afford.

Go away troll-boy. Find a NASCAR forum to play in.

what i cant afford lol, i could trade my car strait up for probalby two of these grocery getters, not that id ever do that since i dont make many trips to publix or kroger

ORIGINAL: madrussian


You guys are hopeless. im not saying that audi is trash, im trying to tell u that it two different cars build for different purpose. And i do admit that a6 is a better daily driver, however as far as a performance car, for drag, or street or highway mustang is better.

I openly stated the cars are built for different purposes.....so why am I 'hopeless'? As far as I'm concerned, the only hopeless people here are the ones who go on to an Audi forum and try to pretend a Mustang is the best car on the planet. Opinions vary, but this isn't the place for bragging about a Mustang, and in the scope of things.....Mustangs are NOT performance cars.

All the racing arguments are moot - because we aren't condoning street racing (this isn't aCivic forum), and drag racing is about as fun to watch as women's basketball. Thanks, but no thanks - I would much rather watch a rally race or IRL any day of the week.

My point about the bike was merely to show how childish, and shallow-minded some people are being by stating how superior the Mustang is simply because it has gobs of power in a straight line. You give me a built bike next to a built Mustang any day of the week and I can promise you the bike will pull away in a drag race.....and do it for less money. Stock to stock - it wouldn't even be a chore. In all the years I have been riding I only had one car that ever came close to matching my acceleration on a stock bike and that was from an obviously modified Vette, however even he wasn't able to match me.

The bottom line is this.....yes they are two different cars, and both have their advantages and disadvantages. I don't have a problem with someone pointing that out, but what I do have a problem with is people who come on to a AUDI A6 DISCUSSION BOARD and start bashing Audis. That is nothing short of trolling......and it is pathetic.

Man, how hard is this concept to understand...

Ford's Mustang is a coupe with rear wheel drive and differentvariants which make it either

1.) A slow car for high school kids
2.) A decent car for a college kid
3.) A weekend hobby car
4.) A straight line disaster on wheels

Audi's in general offer many variants such as

1.) The slow and steady reliableV6 30v
2.) The quick enough 2.7t
3.) The powerful V84.2
4.) And then the RS class cars

Mustangs are in no way shape or form performance cars. Performance cars never have to say "only highway or drag racing." That's call a street rod. Mustangs can be MADE INTO street rods. That's cool if that's what you're into. Safety will always be a concern for you when you're driving a car with 500+ bhp on the street. That's up to you.

Audis are luxury cars with the ADDED BENEFIT of speed. This means the Audi can go fast if it needs to, but will also keep you out of a ditch should it happen to start raining on that highway you mustang drivers are always talking about.

Ford'sare incomparable to Audi's. It's seriously like comparing getting a blowjob to having sex. it's all about what you prefer to be doing at the time...

I personally prefer my 6 way heatedpower leather seats, 6 disc CD changer, in dash CD player, Bose sound system, all wheel drive, and all that other good stuff the Audi name stands for.

If I ever decide that I want to go in a straight line at insane speeds and take my life into my hands, I'll buy a Mustang and crank it up to 800 whatever horses with some crazy engine set up.

BTW.... that AntiV6 guy is a tool. He obviously has no real clue about how much the Audis we are talking about cost or are capable of either. At least we admit the mustang can have crazy speed and power. But a tuned RS4 or RS6 is just plain scary as well. Hell the S4 is like.... the killer Audi is every sense of the word. I've been in the crazy mustangs with the 550bhp V8 rocker engine sticking out fo the hood. I know how scary that sh*t is launching at a red light. Just not for me.

ORIGINAL: antiv6
lmao thats probably the ugliest dash set up ive ever seen, all of the interior arguments are stupid, you have plastic dashes also, atleast cobras have suede seats


Comparing this...
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5973/cobrainterior1500qh8.jpg

to an Audi interior? Yeah that's a Cobra SVT interior, generic at best.

With that said and shown you're a retard, go to a dealership and sit in anykind of Audi with any option package and you will see how lame the Mustang interior is.

How can every auto review site and every owner of an Audi be wrong, the interior and amenities are top notch, classed as being luxurious and sporty.

You are clearly a tolling idiot with no life. You don't own an Audi and you troll an Audi site to bash, get a life, you probably don't even own a decent car.

I'm at work for the number one developer of aviation in the world with a beautiful Audi in the humunguous parking lot waiting for me to get home.

What the hell are you doing? Being a troll. Sad.

Holla!

They don't call em 'rust'angs for no reason....ah cr@p now I'm getting into this stupid thread.

It is not just"us" saying that Audi interior are top notch. Every single Audi review or comparo with an Audi in it will say how Audis interiors are the best in the industry, most use the word "benchmark".. there is a reason why everyone says the same thing... even the magazines or TV shows that are pro BMW will agree to that! There's just no denying it. Now the colors of a specific interior or material choice of a customer are a mattr of taste. I don't particularly likethe combo in the pic above but it is the bext material, fit and finish you'll find... well I am excluding some of those super fancy hand made interiors in>150k cars

ORIGINAL: madrussian
You guys are hopeless. im not saying that audi is trash, im trying to tell u that it two different cars build for different purpose. And i do admit that a6 is a better daily driver, however as far as a performance car, for drag, or street or highway mustang is better. Its not a best handling car in the world and it does have a traction and oversteer problem
OK that is the only part a Mustang is goos at and in 90% cases better than an Audi, which is fine by me. Most people here don't drag their A6 and if they do it is causally and seldom I would guess.
I still struggle with calling the Mustang a performance car, it just does not feel and drive like one though yes it can be made one or kinda anyway, mostly for drags. I have been in the twisties with a mustang and it was pittiful how the car handled just trying to keep up wiht us lifting of the gas to keep it fair. There actually are plentif of Mustang and Corvette drivers who go ride in the blue ridge parkway on the week-end. I was very impressed by the later years Corvettes. Never seen a good Mustang in the twisties there... but i am sure I will one day. I certainly don't think the Mustang is better on the street. Hwy... well is lik dragging all about straight line so maybe but I am not sure that things like lane changes are their forte either...

YOu can say that again! Oh my god their set up are horrific although I have had the privilege :) of sitting in the passenger seat of a Cobra and it was much better than the GT by far. It did have acceptable handling but not up to the car's power and potential...not enough to be called a sports car or performance car IMO merely due to the fact it is not up the car's power. FORD just does not get it... and then there is the weight!!! Those things weigh a lot for... performance cars! Lighter is better!Lotus got that! Great chassis and light weight.

I just love to keep this going, I usually don't but got time this week since I am off work!
Energizer bunny thread...! We might still be debating this pointless topic next year:)

How could you live with yourself driving a 97-04 mustang, those might possibly the ugliest, fake looking, toy car i have ever seen.

Madrussian I love how the GTO in your first video is right on par with the Cobras running 50 and 100+ shots. Just saying GTO beats mustang everyday of the week $ for $. I have an 06 and I have absolutly no complaints. Except its as ugly as it is fast. But thats kinda how it was designed. Sleeper and such. Nothing a few hundred in body kits can't fix!

ORIGINAL: Trigger Happy

Madrussian I love how the GTO in your first video is right on par with the Cobras running 50 and 100+ shots. Just saying GTO beats mustang everyday of the week $ for $. I have an 06 and I have absolutly no complaints. Except its as ugly as it is fast. But thats kinda how it was designed. Sleeper and such. Nothing a few hundred in body kits can't fix!


well, friend of mine got a 6.0l goat....full exhaust, throtle body, intake, tune. At 4000+lb it is no match for an '03-'04 cobra. Every time he tryed me, he lost, dig, drag, highway. Unless u got some kind of power adder, its pointless.

And im not trashing audiforums, i think audi is a preaty good car, i mean thats why i got A6. But u guys shit allover mustangs, most of you never even been in one. And especialy cobra, im not to mutch in a new shelby, but absolutley love '03-'04 svt cobras. Easy to mod, very vast, indestructable, and handles just fine on the streets. 13' brembos work fine for me, u want more for$1200 u can get cobra R brake kit wich was made by brembo fro track use. It has bilsten shocks and struts all around, dont like those get yourself adjustablesfor about $500, once again install is fairly easy. Then get a set of H&R race springs for $300 and its more then anough to hande well on the street. Rearend is good to about 600rwtq, and axels do snap most of the time at the drag srtip when u put a set of slicks on and lunch around 4.5k. Get a set level 5s for about $1k and they can go over 800-900rwtq easily. Trany is tremeck T5, same as vettes, vipers, they call it buletproof for a reason, all u need is a good clutch and short shifter.

How many of u were inside of a well build'03-'04 cobra? And if something goes wrong with it u dont need thousands and thousands of dollars to fix it. 85k service for A6 is what close or more then $2000? And thats for a 8 year old car that u can find for about $11k?????

I can't speak for others, but yes I have been in many Mustangs, including the current style GT, a GT500, the older body style Cobra and even a new Foose model (I was there for the official release). I have also spent a LOT of time in several 1960s models which in my opinion are the only Mustangs worth owning since Ford has never been able to improve upon them.

Yes people are hard on Mustangs, but for good reason. First, a Mustang isn't even in the same class as an Audi, thus (as we have both already said) they are built for two different purposes. Someone who enjoys and owns an Audi A6 sedan and goes out of their way to post on this boardis not likely to be the same type of person who admires or respectsa Mustang not because they are bad cars, but because the purpose of such a car is so vastly different from an A6. Think about it....what is a Mustang really good for? Are they comfortable highway and commuter cars? Not really. Are they good family vehicles? Absolutely not. Are they good on gas and plush and comfortable? No. Do they have boatloads of power and the ability of smoking their tires and making impressive runs down a 1/4 mile strip? You bet.....but honestly - what good is that for a vehicle on the street that is used as a daily driver?

You also need to acknowledge that the comments against Mustangs in this thread are primarily geared towards the V6 model - nobody was really referring to a SVT Cobra as that is an entirely different beast. I have nothing against Mustangs and have been tempted to buy one in the past, but honestly they are simply impractical for most of us and unless you have one as a second car they really don't make that much sense for the average person. I think of most Mustangs like a two seater convertible. Sure they would be fun....but are they really practical? Not really - but they would make a nice second car.

All that being said, even you must admit that for the average person an A6 is a vastly superior car than a Mustang.....because if you didn't, you wouldn't own an A6 and have that SVT Cobra up for sale.

This thread needs to end. Who cares your comparing apples to oranges here.

^ So true but so much fun though.... temptation:)

Been in Mustangs V6 (POS), GT, and a SVT... I actually was impressed byt he power of the SVT but that's it! Notihng else. If i was into 1/4 mile racing, would I buy one? Maybe? not sure... There are others to consider... It sure has potential for 1/4 mile.

But I am not into just doing 1/4 miles and if I had $ for a performance acr for week-ends, I would not even consider the Mustang, any of them.

But hey this was all i the name of fun. The SVT is not that bad, it should be the regular GT actually, and the GT the entry level... They should kill the V6 :) Mustang has had a niche in the market so obviously it works for some... to each his own!
Sorry you had to sell your SVT, sure it was a fast car.

I did agreed that A6 better as DD, but as a toy car to have fun with mustang is the way to go (at least for me it is). Just same as u wont daily drive a 550 horse viper or new zo6 but it doesnt make them a bad car. I could honestly compare my old cobra to them andthe only thing was i dint pay over $50k for it. As far as me getting an A6, like i sad its a good daily beater, gets you from A to B in style and comfort + u can bring ur friends with u. And its not that costy compared to bmw and benz. However the reason i sold my cobra is not that it sucked or i wanted to replace it with something differnt, its just i need more money for a downpayment on my new house and it sold quick for the price that i wanted....but i was almost crying when i passed my keys over. By the way guy who bought it just sold his 6.0l gto to get a svt cobra..... so yeah. And if everything goes good, next year i will be on the market for fully build '04 turboed cobra.

If I was going to buy a weekend car, I'd buy an old school impalaor chevelle or something.

I cant believe im about to add to this STUPID thread that is never ending.

its all a matter of personal taste... they are both nice cars.... the end of it. if you really want to argue about this whole thing, take a step back and look into the history of both!!!! compare a 67 mustang to a 67 audi, the audi is garbage in that time frame

just drop this thread already, or I will start one named 2.7t VS Trans/am.We have both in my family, and let me tell you the Trans Am will rock the crap out ofmy audi.... and gets more looks anyday.

Now hopefully this will be the last reply to this thread... let it end please, its posts like this that make me regret buying an audi. Anyways, Cadillacs are better..... ooooohhhhh didI just ad to this never ending thread? Yes I did. Caddy superior to audi....;)lets get another 5 pages going

ORIGINAL: caddy2audi

just drop this thread already, or I will start one named 2.7t VS Trans/am.We have both in my family, and let me tell you the Trans Am will rock the crap out ofmy audi.... and gets more looks anyday.

Is this forumso busy with new posts that this topic somehow is a problem? Otherwise I fail to see why anyone cares....if you don't wish to participate in this topic, then by all means don't - but if others wish to continue the discussion then so be it.

As to your Trans Am getting more looks.....I can only imagine that is for one of three reasons. Either A: People are trying to see if you are Burt Reynolds, B: People are curious if it is the real KITT from Knight Rider, or B: People are trying to see if the driver is still wearing a mullet.

Personally, I have no admiration of the Trans Am. The1st generation model was ok but still wasn't quite as nice as the Camaro it shared a platform with, but it seemed after that the styling went downhill fast and by the 90s it was almost comical due to it's extensive use of cheap plastics (both inside and out)and a nose that looked like the Pontiac designers were just trying to see how far they could go before someone at GM actually noticed. I hate to say it, but when most people look atlate model Camaro, Firebird, or Trans Am....I don't think it is with admiration, which probably explains why they killed it back in 2002.

The 2009 Camaro looks better than any of them since the 60s, but I'll have to see one in person (and see how it handles) before laying down final judgement.It it isyet another 2-door gas guzzling coupe with tons of power that has no idea how to handle a corner, then it won't earn much praise from me, but if GM can actually produce a car that handles as well as it looks, then I think they just might have a winner.

Opinions vary I guess, but I personally know very few people who think those cars were attractive. Then again, some people bought the Pontiac Aztec and the AMC Pacer too.....so it takes all kinds I suppose.

When I look at a Tans Am, which I do very often in fact, it is seriously for most of the reasons Costner mentioned. Someone driving an older model in this day and age has some real issues with letting go, or if it's newer they have no taste.

People go out and buy cars and then slap nasty looking body kits on them and ride around getting stares (of disgust), well that's a Trans Am... stock; it comes off the lot with all this crap all over it, who cars how fast it can go in a straight line, it's friggin' ugly.

Cadillac, well those are some great cars, and suvs, and trucks, so yeah. Audi and Caddy should not be compaired in this thread, since I love both, and my head would blow up, so don't don't, k.

Trans AM? Laff

Anyways... Cadillac's ARE nice cars. One of the few American brands I stand behind. Love their newer stuff, and even their older stuff is tits. Just been consistently doing good things since I can remember.... with the exception of the Catera... terrible car. Bring back the Cadillac Allante!!

Audi's and Caddy's aren't exactly comparable either, seeing as how Cadillac's are more like... spruced up and much betterChevy's. Their nice, but I wouldn't consider them "top tier" like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Lexus.

Oh god the Catera! I had a friend work tech support at a GM call center and the seats would catch on fire in those horrible things, a lot of his calls would be Catera related. They were ugly too.

ORIGINAL: antiv6

http://www.audiforums.com/models/a6/images/2005-Audi-A6-interior.jpg
lmao thats probably the ugliest dash set up ive ever seen, all of the interior arguments are stupid, you have plastic dashes also, atleast cobras have suede seats




Hahahaha the ugliest dash you've ever seen! Wow
A. You choose the shardiest picture you could find which bleaches out the color.
B. ALL the buttons work even 5 years after you buy the car.
C. Leather is better than suede. Especially the baseball glove leather they offer. Amazing (the main reason fords uses suede is because it is cheaper)
D. The interior of all fords are pure plastic.
E. If the interior of mustangs are so much better than Audi's, because Audi interiors are ugly, why do about half of the mustang owners
"modify" the shit out of their interior only to make so much more worse. haha
F. And what is up with the gay baby blue glow behind the dash?





its all a matter of personal taste... they are both nice cars.... the end of it. if you really want to argue about this whole thing, take a step back and look into the history of both!!!! compare a 67 mustang to a 67 audi, the audi is garbage in that time frame

haha 67 mustang to a 67 audi. who gives a shit? haha why don't you compare things that were built during the time frame you have been on this earth? And if your 45 years old posting on a forum where the average age is about 22, you should really probably be focusing on the more important things in life. I imagine you are probably 15 and have never actually driven either of the cars =)

Quote: well, friend of mine got a 6.0l goat....full exhaust, throtle body, intake, tune. At 4000+lb it is no match for an '03-'04 cobra. Every time he tryed me, he lost, dig, drag, highway. Unless u got some kind of power adder, its pointless.

Oh boy, now I'm getting thrown into this.

First of all, GTO's weigh in at 3750, not 4000+ at least get that little part right. Second, apples and oranges. NA vs. FI. That is a debate that could go a long time too. It did in the GTO forums. Problem is at the end of the day, it's still a Ford, it's still a crustang. Nothing exciting about that.

P.S. Seen A LOT of Cobras going down to GTO's. Lots of factors in the loss, from "power adders" to driver mod.

Wow I can believe this topic is still going on. All I wanted to find out in the begining was if I even have the chance against V6 mustang. Im not a racer and I wouldn't even attempt to raced him then if he didn't started and i wouldn't do that again ever. I won and i shut him up since then, but the guy know nothing about the car, and he is not even a racer, he drove an automatic, it was all about impressing the girl with his mustang. I dont care much for mustang regardless how fast they can go, I love my audi and I wouldnt trade it for anything...unless for a newer audi. So I just don't see the point why comparing the Cobra and the other mustang with A6 when they are completely different car. Audi is way sexier looking and that's all I cared about.

Well.....we still going...and going...and going.
Im not a big fan of trans ams, camaros, espesialy new edge ones. They do have some crazy shit on the street evry now and then, but im not that big on a body and interior. Cadilacs, well, the only one i would consider is cts or cts-v, it is a preaty bad ass car.....everything else eather to big, or for old people.
As for cobras interior, not the best one however got few nice lines.....the best one is probably seats, used still retail for over $1200 an do sell like hot cakes. Not a cheap sued, actualy its a italian sued and the whole point of it was so ur butt wont slide all over the place in case u do turn. And they are preaty comfy for buckets.
V6 stang is crap in my opinion, however people do make nice sleepers out of them. Get used v6, put shelby engine, drivetrain in it some other stuff. Its fun to see peoples faces after week lil 6 kills a vette.
I generaly like most off cars, if it got engine, wheels, and some kind off steering, its already got mine atention. So different cars for different purposes....different price range.... but belive it or not, in a near future i will A6 parked next to my cobra, and thats just the way i like it.

OK...now I officially don't believe this guy.

In this forum http://www.audiforums.com/m_851616/tm.htm I have 2 quotes from him:

Posted 4/7: Hey guys. Be honest with u, didnt do any research, just little here and there, simply dont have time so figure i will start new thread. Just got my A6, stock as far as i know. And i need to add some balls to it, after all thats why i got 2.7t. After basic stuff like exhaust and intake, what alse add up noticeble power? I heard main thing is a chip and 2 main ones are APR and GIAK. Wich one will add more power with beeing some what safe? And wich one got that flip switch tune (91-93 or high octane and how high can i go?)? I heard just with the chip and race gas tune it may put down close to 300 hp to the wheels, true or false? Thanx for any input.

Then in the same thread on 4/8: hey guys! im back! want to say thanx for all the input provided. Alot of good info. i come from muscle car scene, priveously had a 11 sec 500 horse cobra that is gone now, so i dont know much about audis but will do my research.


The point to all this? His last post claims in the near future he will have an A6 next to the Cobra. So what is true? Did he sell it? Does he have an A6, or not?

He sold his Cobra and now has a A6, but will soon get another Cobra fully built, is my impression from back and forth posting.

Yep, just like event said, i sold my cobra to get some more money for the new house and after i got done with the house purchase i got '04 A6 2.7t tip. I got it from auction for killer price $10.8k and i think it still retails for over $16-$17k. However when car was delivered it didnt start......would crank but just wont start, i started to panic checking ignition, i thought could be the fuel pump. Friend of mine told me to add some octane booster. After that car started almost right the way. I gues it was seating for so long that gas started to satle. So now its fine. \
If everything goes weel in spring of '09 i will start the hunt for fully built turbo'04 cobra or heavy moded C6 vette.As of my A6, i will keep it untill it dies and then i dont know....replace it with new one or if i have enough money go e55 or S600, i heard that v12 biturbo responds preaty well to added boost. But for now im happy with my A6 looking into adding some more power so it would be around 300 at the wheels....nothing crazy.

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