Does anyone know if I can use this steering wheel? I have almost the same wheel in my '01 Tip. The only difference is that it has the shifter buttons on it. Do you know if the wiring for changing the gears with the paddle shifters are already a part of the standard installation? Will I have to or can I run the necessary wires for that? Thanks
That's funny he called those things shifter buttons. First off those aren't shifter buttons, they're to change thru your channels or CD tracks on your radio. This should work if you connect everything correctly.
techbod
08-31-2007, 12:18 PM
looks like a good idea and im sure it can be rigged up to work but I doubt the older car will have the wiring for it unless it was an option then but only way to find out is get in there
2k S4
08-31-2007, 01:30 PM
I'm not quite sure what you are asking.
You have the stock steering wheel with the shifter buttons, but radio controls. You want to add the same wheel, but with the multi function controls. I would guess that if it was not an option on that model, you will not be able to use it. BUt if it was an option, you may have to wire & vag it.
Blade69
08-31-2007, 02:41 PM
Envied - Are you kidding me? Then the guy selling it on ebay doesn't know that. I asked him about it and he said that I'd just push up and down to shift. I then replied to him stating that I don't see how that could be considering the paddles have an indention in them to only press down. He hasn't replied since. You just saved me some money and grief. Thanks
2k - Look at the pics. The only difference between my wheel and this one is that there are two buttons on the top two spokes. I thought they were for changing gears when you put your car in TIP position. For my year car, at least in my owners manual, there are three types of wheels. The one I have (with the phone option), the one like mine without the phone option, and the sport three spoke steering wheel with the buttons to control the shifting. Since this wheel is from a 2003, I thought they wised up and made a completely multifunction wheel that not only controlled the radio, but also controlled the shifting. Since paddle shifting was an option on my year of car, I thought that I could get this wheel and use all of the functions...radio controls and gear shifting.
Basically I wanted paddle shifters like the pic below with all of the radio features. However, I will be changing out my stereo so does anyone know if a S4/S8 will fit and work on my car?
paddle shift is only a pulse and same as tip so electronic placed sensors so whats the problem? its all down to wiring
2k S4
08-31-2007, 03:07 PM
ORIGINAL: Blade69
2k - Look at the pics.Â* The only difference between my wheel and this one is that there are two buttons on the top two spokes.Â* I thought they were for changing gears when you put your car in TIP position.Â* For my year car, at least in my owners manual, there are three types of wheels.Â* The one I have (with the phone option), the one like mine without the phone option, and the sport three spoke steering wheel with the buttons to control the shifting.Â* Since this wheel is from a 2003, I thought they wised up and made a completely multifunction wheel that not only controlled the radio, but also controlled the shifting.Â* Since paddle shifting was an option on my year of car, I thought that I could get this wheel and use all of the functions...radio controls and gear shifting.
Basically I wanted paddle shifters like the pic below with all of the radio features.Â* However, I will be changing out my stereo so does anyone know if a S4/S8 will fit and work on my car?
Well one button is for up shifts, & one for downshifts. Please, don't call them paddles, they are just buttons. If you want paddles, get the RS6 steering wheel. That pic look like the stock S4 steering wheel.
now if you car did have the MF (mulit function) option, & has the shifter buttons, stock, then yea, you should be able to have both. Why don't you pull the steering wheel off & look what's under there, you might have to poke around a little, & see if there is any wiring that isn't plugged in.
I have the RS6 wheel in my car, with paddles, to replace the S4 button one. If you just want buttons, let me know, my old wheel is just sitting in the basement.
Paddles
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/mswale/S4%20interior/IMG_2262.jpg
very nice interior there and love the red lights:)
EnviedA6
08-31-2007, 03:48 PM
Blade69, yes those are for the radio, I have that steering wheel. The guy who's selling it doesn't know what he's talking about. The steering you need that has the paddle shift is pictured by 2k s4. The steering wheel is shaped like a "T" and not a sideways "H" :D
Blade69
08-31-2007, 04:20 PM
ORIGINAL: 2k S4
I have the RS6 wheel in my car, with paddles, to replace the S4 button one. If you just want buttons, let me know, my old wheel is just sitting in the basement.
Paddles
2k...yes that is what I meant. Hell I didn't know they actually had paddles too. I'm such a NOOB when it comes to these cars. Yes the pic of the one wheel I showed above is from an RS6. The pics of the wheel that Envied has is what I had the question about. I thought the "buttons" on top were for shifting. I guess in essence I was trying to merge the two and have the best of both worlds. Button shifting and radio contols. TheS4 wheel that you had in your car is the wheel I saw in the owners manual. I'd love to see if that wheelwill work on my car. Send me an email and we can talk details.
2k S4
08-31-2007, 06:39 PM
ORIGINAL: Blade69
2k...yes that is what I meant.Â* Hell I didn't know they actually had paddles too.Â* I'm such a NOOB when it comes to these cars.Â* Yes the pic of the one wheel I showed above is from an RS6.Â* The pics of the wheel that Envied has is what I had the question about.Â* I thought the "buttons" on top were for shifting.Â* I guess in essence I was trying to merge the two and have the best of both worlds.Â* Button shifting and radio contols.Â* TheÂ*S4 wheel that you had in your car is the wheel I saw in the owners manual.Â* I'd love to see if that wheelÂ*will work on my car.Â* Send me an email and we can talk details.
Yes, it will work in an A6, but you need to get a new airbag wire & connector. If you do not have the buttons there now, you will need the wires for that.
teranenrique
08-31-2007, 10:46 PM
Sorry I dont mean to hijack this tread but can you put a newer style A6 steering wheel on the 2002-2004 A6? I really like those[sm=Awwww.gif] [sm=drlove.gif]
Boston Driver
08-31-2007, 11:11 PM
Ummm...actually, the 4-spoke wheel you originally posted has the tip buttons AND radio controls. Look closer at the outer edges of the upper spokes. Those toggles each have a (+) and (-) for up and downshifts. The other three buttons on each side of the airbag are for the radio/CD/phone controls. I have that exact steering wheel in my 2002 A6 4.2, and it is supposed to only work when you shift into tip mode with the shift lever, but I recoded the transmission with the VAG COM so they operate much like the RS6, and they are active if I up- or down-shift. After 10 seconds or so of no active shifting with the buttons, it reverts back to Drive or Sport mode.
Here is the only picture I have of the wheel (taken right after I installed the RS6 alcantara headliner, but before I swapped out for the carbon fiber trim and got the matching dome lights)...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/hliu55/alcantara/DSC02511.jpg
Regardless, it is not plug-n-play on your car unless you have to correct steering wheel module, which was changed in 2002 and later years, and I am not so sure even with the right module if it would owrk properly with the tranny.
If you really want the paddleshifters similar to the RS6, you can do it, but it only works in tip mode, and it requires a bit of wire tapping, and a few expensive parts. Here is a post of what I did in my 2001 2.7T tiptronic when I retrofitted a paddlshift stering wheel (from a TT, but same as the RS6 wheel):
http://forums.audiworld.com/a6/msgs/547564.phtml
And a picture of that wheel installed (in my former car):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/hliu55/steering%20wheel/tiptronicwheel.jpg
auditech79
09-01-2007, 01:15 AM
Oh boston driver your car is [sm=drooldude.gif]Love that headliner, how much did that set ya back?
Blade69
09-01-2007, 02:56 AM
Boston. What I would really like is the four spoke wheel that you have in your 2002 4.2 to work exactly the same way in my 2001 2.7T. I may just get it anyway and see if I can get it to work. If not, I guess I'd have to settle for just the button shifter type that I may get from 2k S4. Either way, it looks like I'm going to have to do some modifications to get either to work.
2k S4
09-01-2007, 01:28 PM
WOW, that was a lot of work there Boston.
All I had to do was remove one wheel, change 2 connectors, & bolt everything back up! Mine took 15min.
Boston Driver
09-01-2007, 04:33 PM
ORIGINAL: 2k S4
WOW, that was a lot of work there Boston.
All I had to do was remove one wheel, change 2 connectors, & bolt everything back up! Mine took 15min.
I think that is because your S4 was pre-wired for the tip controls on the steering wheel. My 2001 A6 2.7T was not prewired, and the steering angle sensor was not prewired to accept the tip controls either.
Blade69
09-02-2007, 02:56 AM
CRAP!!! I forgot to bid on the wheel [:o] Well 2k, got that wheel?
2k S4
09-02-2007, 01:40 PM
ORIGINAL: Boston Driver
I think that is because your S4 was pre-wired for the tip controls on the steering wheel.Â* My 2001 A6 2.7TÂ* was not prewired, and the steering angle sensor was not prewired to accept the tip controls either.
Yea, I got that, I'm just saying mine was much easier! However, I have to put my car in TIP mode to get the paddles to work. It would be nice to just hit them, & get the paddles to work with out moving the shifter into TIP mode. I wonder, if I can retrofit the newer A6 one in the S4, to get the semi-manual mode?
Blade, yup, I got the wheel, email me, & I'll send some pics. Hopefully it will be almost PNP.