Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4
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Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 10/15/2007 4:40:47 PM
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DCEL
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Howdy Folks, Im thinking about putting a set of 20's and Carbon Rotors/pads on my car. How wide a tire can I run? Id like to run 275s if i can get them to fit. Anyone already done this? Are the Porsche rotors and pads a straight swap? It looks like it. Thanks for the input, Dcel
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 10/24/2007 10:29:55 PM
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b7misanors4
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If you space out your wheels you might even be lucky to go with 305's but I could never be sure and can I ask you why you would want the 20''? I run original size tires on mine but I have nice Honda-tuner looking wheels at 17'' a piece, matte black I think it looks nice.
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 10/25/2007 4:25:14 PM
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DCEL
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b7misanors4, I like the way a 20 inch wheel scales the car (makes it look smaller) and the contrast of a black wheel on a silver car. Also I think the car needs more rubber on the ground. 305's would be cool, i cant see it happening. Dcel
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 10/29/2007 5:17:54 AM
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AWDaholic
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ORIGINAL: DCEL Howdy Folks, Im thinking about putting a set of 20's and Carbon Rotors/pads on my car. How wide a tire can I run? Id like to run 275s if i can get them to fit. Anyone already done this? Are the Porsche rotors and pads a straight swap? It looks like it. Thanks for the input, Dcel D, are you just looking to slap some bling on your performance auto, or is there a purpose to your swap? A l'il googling could easily answer your rotor question. 1st, do you have ANY idea what the bolt-circle is on your vehicle? What about the bolt-circle from the donor-car (well, car-model, since I'm relatively sure you;re gonna go straight to the Porsche dealer for your parts)? Hava clue about the diameter of the rotors on your vehicle? What about the donor? If they aren't EXACTLY the same you DO know you'll need to re-locate the calipers, right?!?!? If they aren't the same (or damn close to the same) depth you may have to change your calipers, too! Will the Porsche calipers straight-swat (i.e. bolt directly) to the stock location on YOUR vehicle? How the **** should *I* know?!?! It's YOUR car, do the research! Give a Man a fish (or, in this case, an answer) TEACH a Man TO fish (for his OWN answers) Or, are you simply after the *bling*-factor of big, w - i - d - e w - h - e - e - l - s & something that has a Porsche-logo on it?
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 10/29/2007 5:16:01 PM
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DCEL
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AWDaholic, Wow! Did my questions somehow offend you? I wasn’t aware that I needed to go into a dissertation about why I wanted to make modifications. I can however comment on your specific statements. 1) I wouldn’t call it “BLING” (I envision 24” chrome hoops on a Cutlass Supreme when I hear that term) But as I stated in the post, I do like the look of a (little) bigger, black wheel. Even with my limited seat time, my car feels like it needs a more rubber on the ground. The 255’s seem to slide with little effort. I think 275’s would add some grip. 2) With regard to the Carbon Rotor/pads. It was simply a question. If you don’t have the answer, IT’S OK! You’re not being graded. Try to remain calm. Interestingly enough, I used to be the Quality Manager at Wilwood Engineering (A high performance disc brake manufacturer in So-cal) and as a side thing, I fabricate custom brake applications. I’ve done Vipers, old and new Corvettes, Mustangs, Import stuff, etc. (I am still a Wilwood dealer in anyone needs parts.) As a result, I have a fairly complete understanding of the process. So really I wasn’t looking for you to dissect the intricacies of changing to Carbon parts. Primarily, I was looking for someone (who hasn’t had too much REDBULL) to say was “Yea, that is a common swap, the Porsche parts bolt on” or “No way! they are completely different, everything has to be custom.” Or if it hasn’t been tried, a collective “we don’t know”. For me, the best reason for changing to a Carbon rotor/pad is rotating mass. The iron rotors have no problem absorbing and shedding the heat generated by an RS4. But the weight has a detrimental effect on acceleration. As the cars are torque challenged to begin with, removing 15-20 lbs of rotating weight will be noticeable. But I digress. Your response has neither given me nor taught me to fish. More correctly you have given me the bird and quite pointedly, taught me NOT to ask questions. So that we are clear, if I want something that says “Porsche” on it. It won’t be brake part. Jason
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 10/29/2007 5:49:36 PM
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AWDaholic
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DAMN, I eHat when I open my mouf and insert my foot. On the plus side, I did step in some mayo, today, so the taste wasn't all THAT bad, FWIW. But, phoreel-phoreel, if you got ALL THAT expereeeeince behind you, why you askin? I'd think you'd've had the resources readily available to you. By "import-stuff" I'm assuming Nipponese? I'm guessing yes, or else the "intricacies" wouldn't have been "foreign" to you. But, since you apparently have not yet hit the google button I'll help, no, it isn't always a straight swap. Again, depending on teh donor application, you may need an adaptor bracket to rotate the attachment point the 90deg some swaps need to fit Porsche to Audi. Verstahts du? But, since you've "engineered" your own BBK's, I'm guessing fabbing up something like that would be sehr bissen kuche, nein? Check mit der GutAchter, erste, mein fruende. I'd also ehat to see a pretty RS all bent around a jersey-wall due to ill-thought-out engineering. Oh, and, as far as the "weight" goes, you'd just be swapping one set of un-sprung weight for another, going BIG on the wheels, but *you* already know that, right? My apologies for assuming you're some teen-aged doof with more money than brains. You're obviously NOT teen-aged.
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 10/29/2007 5:55:27 PM
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AWDaholic
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Oh, oh, oh, also, since we're both in panties-inna-bunch mode..., wider wheels, even when "spaced" appropriately, can have a deleterious effect on camber, bearing-life, and other unintended "handling" side-effects... But, you knew that, TOO, dintCha? And, you also knew that a tape measure, pencil, paper and/or a calculator would have answered all your questions... But *I'M* wrong for assuming you dint know WTF you were talking about. My BAD!
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 11/3/2007 5:24:21 PM
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I'm brand new here today, and because of the arrogance of TEH MODERATOR, I will never come back here again...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................YOU ARE A DOUSCHE BRAGGIN FAG, except to read the comments of folks who agree with me! I hope this doesn't get erased by you Mr. AWD Rueb
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 11/3/2007 9:44:34 PM
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AWDaholic
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I have no problem leaving comments up. Children who feel the need to resort to name calling ARE amusing, to me, Rueb. If I'm ever in SoCal I'll swing by and point & laugh at you directly, OK? edyt to add: It occurs to me that many of you SoCal peeoples are waaaaay toooooo sensitive. 'Samatter? Not enough hugs? Grow up. At least DCEL didn't resort to name calling. For that he is to be respected. What are you, SIX? Does Mommy KNOW you stole her lipstick to play grown up? Douschbag?!?!? I know you are, but what am I? DCEL, if you have any genuine grief with anything I've posted, MAN UP and PM me, directly. To the child who apparently snuck onto the interwebs without parental permission, put the candy down and back away from the pretty toy. Go to your room, NOW, and think about what you have done! Anybody ELSE have a problem, PM me. I've been here for over two years. I'm KNOWN on these boards. I'm not hiding OR backing down from ANYBODY!
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 11/6/2007 5:25:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ruebsteak I'm brand new here today, and because of the arrogance of TEH MODERATOR, I will never come back here again...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................YOU ARE A DOUSCHE BRAGGIN FAG, except to read the comments of folks who agree with me! I hope this doesn't get erased by you Mr. AWD Rueb First off, why the hell are you even getting offended? This has nothing to do with you. DCEL decided to get smart-assed with someone who Gold-Medalled in Smart-Assing. Anything relating to the arrogance of one or both of them is between them. quote:
Even with my limited seat time, my car feels like it needs a more rubber on the ground. The 255’s seem to slide with little effort. I think 275’s would add some grip. And any grip added by installing tires that are 20 millimeters wider would be instantly negated by adding 2-4 inches of wheel diameter and an extra 10-30 pounds or rotating mass (depending of course on the wheels you are replacing and with what you are replacing them). quote:
Interestingly enough, I used to be the Quality Manager at Wilwood Engineering (A high performance disc brake manufacturer in So-cal) and as a side thing, I fabricate custom brake applications. I’ve done Vipers, old and new Corvettes, Mustangs, Import stuff, etc. (I am still a Wilwood dealer in anyone needs parts.) As a result, I have a fairly complete understanding of the process So your fairly complete understanding of the process should allow you the knowledge that carbon rotors are not only irritating on street cars but at times can be downright unsafe since carbon rotors have extremely limited braking power when cold and only function properly when they stay heated from use. The Porsches that have carbon rotors also have programming in the computer that pulses the brakes to keep the rotors at optimal temps for performance braking. At least, that's how it was last time I checked, they may have made some breakthrough since then, but I doubt it. Since your Audi doesn't have that pulse programming, your first emergency stop on the highway after a long period of brake inactivity will probably also be your last. quote:
For me, the best reason for changing to a Carbon rotor/pad is rotating mass. What, reduce brake mass to partially offset the ridiculous added mass of some 20s? That makes sense.
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 11/7/2007 9:45:42 AM
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AWDaholic
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Although it's not something one would normally BE proud of, I think I will take from this a sense of pride that I am an arrogant, gold-medalist, smart-ass! SS, thanks for pointing out the rotor-temp thing, for CF brakes. I knew there was something else I meant to yank his bling-needy, emblem-conscious chain about, but couldn't remember what it was. To: Any I offended (except the afore-mentioned child) DEAL WITH IT. Grow up! Man up! Or, SHUT UP! To: Rueb-the-Tueb-steak-eater,
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 11/7/2007 4:51:01 PM
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DCEL
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AWDaholic, I don’t wear “panties” (Not that I’m not judging your choices.) To that end, if that was my proclivity, they certainly are not in a bunch. The only one who seems agitated here is you (and now Silverseven). You continue to rant and insult, you call me a “doof with more money than brains, yet you call Rueb a "child" for “name calling? Is that the charge of a “Moderator”? To attempt to belittle and humiliate those who would reach out with questions? It would seem that your goal here is to inflame, not MODERATE. "MAN UP” You must be joking. I posted a question, when I responded, I signed it with my name. I remain calm, when you have not. I have to ask again, why did this post upset you so? I would surmise from your “more money than brains” comment that it’s about money? To restate the position in deference to you. I am new to the Audi world and was simply trying not to “reinvent the wheel” (pun intended). You assume that the wheel I choose will be wider. I didn’t say that. You assume they will be heavier. I didn’t say that either. You assume much. However, your comments about wheel weight did not fall on deaf ears. While at the SEMA show in Las Vegas last week I decided to purchase a set of the Carbon Magnesium Dymags as they offer a substantial weight savings. Jason
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 11/7/2007 7:01:41 PM
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AWDaholic
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Jason, your points are duly noted. My point, in simple terms: You do not need to re-invent the wheel. You claim to come from a background of an engineering firm that deals wit brake upgrades, but your question belies that truth. QA? What? Documents? Brakes aren't some *new,* *exciting* technology recently embarked upon by Audi, Porsche, et-al. The FUNDEMANTALS remain, regardless of marque. You want me to continue sharp-shooting? Cause I can... quote:
ORIGINAL: DCEL Howdy Folks, Im thinking about putting a set of 20's and Carbon Rotors/pads on my car. - Factory wheel IS 19". Maybe the rest of the aboriginals in the RS section are prone to believeing that 20's weigh the same as 19's, but, not me. IF you dealt with the industry in the manner in which you suggested, you'd KNOW this, as easily as you know your name... How wide a tire can I run? Id like to run 275s if i can get them to fit. Anyone already done this? - Two things come to mind... #1 You're going to go a FULL 50mm wider than stock (and, that's not even your "ideal" width, is it?), and not use a w - i - d - e - r - w - h - e - e - l - ? Oh RLY?!?!? Remind me NEVER to get into ANY car you've had for more than a week, OK! You, Sir, are an accident waiting to happen. Did this sort of thing for a living, you say? WOW! #2 You may not remember, but, prior to my chiming in, all of 32 views had been made to your l'il query over the 4 days prior, and no one had ANYthing to say. What does that suggest to you? I also find it interesting to note that an additional 200-ish views have been made since my contribution (no matter how specious my additions may have been), and STILL no one has had anything constructive, directly or otherwise, about your proposal. Zero support for the concept. Hmmm... Are the Porsche rotors and pads a straight swap? It looks like it. - Again, coming from a self-proclaimed background IN not only the industry, but, as YOU ascertain, specifically in the field of engineering brake upgrade applications, AND access to the internet (or else we wouldnlt be having this conversation, wood oui?), the best place you could think to voice your interogative was a room full of... Well, I won't ascribe labels. You've pointed out my hypocracy in that regard, so I will refrain from providing you the pleasure. Nevertheless, HAVE you heard of Google? They're ALL the rage these days. Stocks going throo tha ROOF, too! I doubt if two people reading these words have ever gotten grease under their nails before in their lives. REAL, grimey grease, the kind that takes days to dig/wash away... Thanks for the input, Honestly, if you had asked teh question in the Gen Tech section I doubt I would have had anything to say. Well, honestly, I doublt I would have needed to have bothered to say anything, others may have beaten me to it. Now, I may have been at least 3-ways wrong, for jumping your sch1tt like I originally did, but, everything you've added since then has more than justified my original reaction. Mod, or not. Your question REEKS of some trust-fund ne0b whose 'rents just bought him a new toy, and he wants teh distinction of being able to boast about his TWENTIES and how he "put on" (read: paid someone else to do it) Porsche brakes and now he can "stop-just-like-a-Carerra." Dcel And then we have... quote:
ORIGINAL: DCEL b7misanors4, I like the way a 20 inch wheel scales the car (makes it look smaller) and the contrast of a black wheel on a silver car. Also I think the car needs more rubber on the ground. 305's would be cool, i cant see it happening. - Stock tire width is 225. Here, you want to be "cool" by going 80mm wider. But, you're not image-conscious... are you? Tell me, what ARE you compensation for, hmmm? Dcel quote:
ORIGINAL: DCEL AWDaholic, Wow! Did my questions somehow offend you? - Actually, yes, it did, DUH! For all the reasons outlined in blue, above and below. I wasn’t aware that I needed to go into a dissertation about why I wanted to make modifications. - No need, I think I've been aptly able to discern your intentions. I can however comment on your specific statements. 1) I wouldn’t call it “BLING” (I envision 24” chrome hoops on a Cutlass Supreme when I hear that term) But as I stated in the post, I do like the look of a (little) bigger, black wheel. - Bling means different things to different people. To me, it generally means pointless Mods to one's car, simply for the sake of: a) modding it, or: b) bench-racing. You are obviously headed deep down B's road. Even with my limited seat time, my car feels like it needs a more rubber on the ground. The 255’s seem to slide with little effort. I think 275’s would add some grip. - 255's?!?! Factory is, I believe, 225/35/19. I think you're experiencing some suspension limitations, since you're already 30mm over, but, you're the expert, as you so ably pointed out, below... 2) With regard to the Carbon Rotor/pads. It was simply a question. If you don’t have the answer, IT’S OK! You’re not being graded. Try to remain calm. - Just because you don't LIKE what I say doesn't mean I'm not calm. Interestingly enough, I used to be the Quality Manager at Wilwood Engineering (A high performance disc brake manufacturer in So-cal) and as a side thing, I fabricate custom brake applications. I’ve done Vipers, old and new Corvettes, Mustangs, Import stuff, etc. (I am still a Wilwood dealer in anyone needs parts.) As a result, I have a fairly complete understanding of the process. - If your understanding WERE complete you wouldn't have NEEDED to post your statement about the carbob/carbon Porsche Mod, would you? But, *I'm* wrong for assuming your question was more about style than substance. Are you starting to see where I get all my *assumptions* from, Jason? Not clear yet? Then I'll continue... So really I wasn’t looking for you to dissect the intricacies of changing to Carbon parts. - Onviously not. Primarily, I was looking for someone (who hasn’t had too much REDBULL) to say was “Yea, that is a common swap, the Porsche parts bolt on” or “No way! they are completely different, everything has to be custom.” Or if it hasn’t been tried, a collective “we don’t know”. - Again, with ALL your experience in this arena, I'd've thought you'd've had a point of reference for this thing. Oh, wait, maybe the folks at Wilwood aren't as into posturing, vehicle-wise, as you. For me, the best reason for changing to a Carbon rotor/pad is rotating mass. The iron rotors have no problem absorbing and shedding the heat generated by an RS4. - Rotating mass, you say... *I* still say your so-called experience in this area should have prevented this argument from escaping your finger-tips. Bigger (20" v. 19"), wider (275 - 305 v. 225) wheels DO weigh pounds more than the stock setup. This isn't a recent discovery. It's been KNOWN for decades. But the weight has a detrimental effect on acceleration. As the cars are torque challenged to begin with, removing 15-20 lbs of rotating weight will be noticeable. - Torque challenged... And yet, you want biger, wider, heavier wheels. Anybody with half a clue (and, truthfully, that's about all I carry around with me, any given day) can see you simply want to trade one unsprung mass for another. In fact, since your original position advocated adding rotating mass, you were hobbling your horse even further. An industry "insider" would have known that, I think. But I digress. Your response has neither given me nor taught me to fish. More correctly you have given me the bird and quite pointedly, taught me NOT to ask questions. - Hopefully, I've coerced you towards thinking before asking. A well-formed, properly thought out question will give you the answer you seek. Bad question give Og bad answer. So that we are clear, if I want something that says “Porsche” on it. It won’t be brake part. - But, isn't that what your original question contains? A brake part that says Porsche on it? Why not go with Wilwood parts. being an "authorized,"... But wait, I'm assuming, again, you don't actually say you are "authorized," do you. Just that you peddle their stuff. Either way, with your pre-existing relationship one would naturally asume you could get a "price" on their stuff. I'm just sayin'... Jason quote:
ORIGINAL: DCEL AWDaholic, I don’t wear “panties” (Not that I’m not judging your choices.) To that end, if that was my proclivity, they certainly are not in a bunch. The only one who seems agitated here is you (and now Silverseven). You continue to rant and insult, you call me a “doof with more money than brains, yet you call Rueb a "child" for “name calling? - Not ranting. Pointing out the holes and varioue inequeties in all your statements. As for Rueb. What, is he a friend of yours? Until he inserted himself into this conversation I did not know, and could still care less, about the planet even supporting his existance. Is that the charge of a “Moderator”? To attempt to belittle and humiliate those who would reach out with questions? It would seem that your goal here is to inflame, not MODERATE. "MAN UP” You must be joking. I posted a question, when I responded, I signed it with my name. I remain calm, when you have not. - If you knew me, you'd know that I'm being remarkably calm. Maybe it's my inner-Mod coming to the fore. I have to ask again, why did this post upset you so? I would surmise from your “more money than brains” comment that it’s about money? - Nope. Brains. To restate the position in deference to you. I am new to the Audi world and was simply trying not to “reinvent the wheel” (pun intended). You assume that the wheel I choose will be wider. I didn’t say that. - Didn't have to. The implication is clear. You CANNOT go THAT much wider, with a tire, and NOT increase the wheel-width. In this case your position literally will not hold air (pun intended... See, I can turn a phrase, too) You assume they will be heavier. I didn’t say that either. - Yet again, I can easily infer, all else being equal, biger, wider wheels & tires WILL weigh more. It's not rocket-surgery. You assume much. - I assume you no longer work at Wilwood for a very good reason. However, your comments about wheel weight did not fall on deaf ears. While at the SEMA show in Las Vegas last week I decided to purchase a set of the Carbon Magnesium Dymags as they offer a substantial weight savings. And then we have... - If you have only learned THAT much, then all my efforts have been worth it. Drive in peace. Jason And, as far as being a moderator goes, I didn't remove ANY of WHO I am when I added being a Mod to teh mix. I was BORN an arrogant ASS, and just got BIGGER! Towards THAT end (to paraphrase you), ask any of the other Mods or Admins about how much I do actually contribute to the forums. Not just as a Mod, mind you... Have YOU ever donated anything other than hot-air to the AF? Shared in any of the pain & suffering & healing & growing of your fellow AFers? FWIW, my wit was 1000-times more ascerbic before I became a Mod. Nice jab about the panties, tho. Props! See, I can take shots as good as I give them. THAT'S what I mean by Man-up, Man. Still, You & Reub comes off as SoCal-soft. What? Only ever deal with women & children who go along with everything you say without offering a dissenting position? That's WEAK! Well, Reub is, anyway. Your taste in wheel/brake setups may need refining, but you got style, at least. You're on the right track with lightening the unsprung/rotating mass. But, when it comes to braking efficiency, you have to consider the thermal loads and how they're transferred, and balance that against how and where you plan on doing 99% of your driving. They few pounds/corner you'd shave by going Carbon/Carbon would be more than offset by teh much heavier wheel/tire pkg you originally hinted at/suggested. Maybe if you went to a softer compound, with a utog rating of around 280-ish, you'd find teh grip you seem to be chasing. You'll find you also will be able to brake incrementally harder with a softer compound, all else being equal. Have you also considered playing with your air pressure? A few pounds, in either direction, can dramatically affect grip, in any given application. If you ARE after better braking, too, which, you know, isn't specifically addressed in any of your posts (I don't wanna ASSUME, after all, do *I*?), you might consider flushing your fluid and going with something that has a higher boiling point. It won't generally decrease your breaking distances (the fulcrum's teh same, but you decrease it's maleability), and should reduce fade in repeated applications of hard braking. Hell, I think higher boiling-point fluids have a lighter specific atmospheric weight, also, so you cud save a few ounces of overall vehicular weight, as well... (OK, I made that last part up, but it SOUNDED good, for a minit, dint it?) Enjoy your fish Troy (but, as mentioned in teh sig, EVERYbody calls me Jazz, you should, too!)
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 12/7/2007 10:49:40 PM
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Hi DCEL & AWDaholic To AWDaholic B7-RS4 comes with 255/35 tires wrapped on 19" rims standard. To DCEL 255 should be able to put down quit some power. However, if it is not enough for you, spend you money on softer compound tires instead of increasing width. This car (RS4) run so well on this dimention rims/tires, changing it will result in an even harder ride and/or even contact between tires and the car body. regards Lars
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 12/8/2007 9:04:55 AM
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AWDaholic
 Im Teh Guy Your Mother Warned You About Posts: 10051
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Hey Lars, son of Henrik, thanks for chiming in on a discussion that died a month ago. Where were you when I needed you?!?!? I'm assuming, by your profession, you are NOT SoCal-soft, like your two fellow left-coasters. Welcome to the forums. I mostly annoy peeps in the off-topic section but, as you can plainly see, I do not limit my realm of annoyance to just that section. My pearls of witlessdom can also be found in the A8 section (s'what I roll) and general tech (because I like to spread disinformation about wheel widths). Enjoy your stay; find your voice; speak your mind...
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 12/8/2007 10:09:22 AM
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larshenriksen68
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Hi AWDaholic Sorry for not being able to help you out earlier, I have seen this Forum earlier, but sort of did not want to speek out before I got my own wheels here in the US, and thereby had something to hold my comments up against. Well, you can count on me if someone else start jagging about oversized rims on their Audi, it seldom goes well, we leave those rims to the SUV guys having problems with their bling effect. I do not know whether it is only me, but damn those big rims look stupid, especially on most American cars which in general have those small front break disc's! it sort of wake the disapointment in me equal to opening a Pizza box mend for a 20" Pizza finding a 6" Pizza. What I mean is (talking about the sencetive subject of size) that the size or should we say volume of the front break arrangement have to match the size of the rim to give the car its harmony. Well, that is my point of view, and I will speek it out in the future too!
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RE: Wider tires and Carbon Rotors on an RS4 - 12/8/2007 4:00:41 PM
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AWDaholic
 Im Teh Guy Your Mother Warned You About Posts: 10051
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LoL... Well, with such tiny brakes (breaks?), they have to overcompensate SOMEWHERE, don't they? Wanna laugh until you wet yourself (you should be able to hide evidence of that better than most ), google "DONK." Although I'm certain you have seen at least 1 example of a regular car with obscenely over-sized wheels... Visit the OT section, at least once... Hilarity will ensue, I promise you!
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