Ok so i may be purchasing a 00 2.7T 6mt A6 with just over 100k mi on it, (timing belt just done) it's got an APR chip with the 4 options, rs4 clutch, and lightened flywheel. How would i hold up against my friend's bone stock 06 sti? From a roll? How about a dig? I'm talking about car capability because i already know i'm a better driver than he is.

my guess is that he'll take you although your torque advantage would help make it close especially with a 6 spd with rs4 clutch and light flywheel! I'd like to see it. 93oct would be closer.
His car is so much lighter!

He will take you. The weight will kill you.

Yah but atleast you have an interior, lol Sti's have the worst interiors.

^ true, the STI is fast but not a nice car inside, I'll take the 6 anyday for what i do, but if I was younger wit no kids and tracking or hitting dirt roads, it'd be the STI.
Straight line will be advantage STI
Daily driving/living with the car advantage A6

So we've established that i'll lose, which would be closer, a roll or a dig? I would think with the torque advantage and rs4 clutch the dig would be my advantage. And like i said the kid can't drive worth crap so that may play into it. Maybe i'll take a trip to the track and fill up on some 100 octane and run that file from the chip [8D]

I say on a roll of 60 you should take him. Look up sti vs s4 in youtube and you'll see what happens. With 2 K04's you wouldn't have a problem.:D

Haha i know but i'm gonna need a couple months to save up for the K04's so i was thinking maybe i'll just spend the extra 400 and get the vast dp's.

You have a luxury sport cruiser, not a race car like the STI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUHa8Pjk08

ORIGINAL: Cappachinoo

You have a luxury sport cruiser, not a race car like the STI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUHa8Pjk08


Seen the video.

And what's your point? It may be a luxury cruiser however with the same engine as the s4, and only 100lbs lighter, i see no reason why it cant run like a sports car while maintaining it's luxury cruiser status. That's half the appeal. Who would expect a 3800lb audi boat to walk an STi?

Don't have the car yet but i'll make sure to get videos. Im thinking, APR Chip (since its already installed), VAST dp's, and a DIY dual front mount system. I have 4 2.5" 90 degree mandrel bends and 4' of 2.5" straight pipe so i was thinking if i buy a bunch of intercooler coupler tube i can try to create a DIY dual front mount system for around 400 dollars. May not be perfect but it'd be better than spending 2 grand on a kit.

Refer to these clips, we do have the same motor but we should be able to do this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz8ZuA0PUEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoes07_kpx8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zb379nn_kE&mode=related&search=

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ORIGINAL: Cappachinoo

You have a luxury sport cruiser, not a race car like the STI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUHa8Pjk08


Seen the video.

And what's your point? It may be a luxury cruiser however with the same engine as the s4, and only 100lbs lighter, i see no reason why it cant run like a sports car while maintaining it's luxury cruiser status. That's half the appeal. Who would expect a 3800lb audi boat to walk an STi?

Don't have the car yet but i'll make sure to get videos. Im thinking, APR Chip (since its already installed), VAST dp's, and a DIY dual front mount system. I have 4 2.5" 90 degree mandrel bends and 4' of 2.5" straight pipe so i was thinking if i buy a bunch of intercooler coupler tube i can try to create a DIY dual front mount system for around 400 dollars. May not be perfect but it'd be better than spending 2 grand on a kit.


My point is, itsnot a race car, its a luxury sport car.....my point is, stock, your car wont beat an STI, my point is, even with all them upgrade you have, you still wont beat the STI, Oh, that S4 in the video has 340hp, not 250hp like the old S4, so if your match the STI with and 2000-2002 S4, the STI would still win

Your catching feelinglike I'm talking about your girl or something, go put STI on her forhead and beat that.

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ORIGINAL: tsbpenguin

ORIGINAL: Cappachinoo

You have a luxury sport cruiser, not a race car like the STI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUHa8Pjk08


Seen the video.

And what's your point? It may be a luxury cruiser however with the same engine as the s4, and only 100lbs lighter, i see no reason why it cant run like a sports car while maintaining it's luxury cruiser status. That's half the appeal. Who would expect a 3800lb audi boat to walk an STi?

Don't have the car yet but i'll make sure to get videos. Im thinking, APR Chip (since its already installed), VAST dp's, and a DIY dual front mount system. I have 4 2.5" 90 degree mandrel bends and 4' of 2.5" straight pipe so i was thinking if i buy a bunch of intercooler coupler tube i can try to create a DIY dual front mount system for around 400 dollars. May not be perfect but it'd be better than spending 2 grand on a kit.


My point is, you dont have a race car.....my point is, stock, your car wont beat an STI, my point is, even with all them upgrade you have, you still wont beat the STI.

Your catching feeling and you dont even have the car, you are acting like I'm talking about your girl or something, go put STI on her forhead and beat that.


Haha wow that's a whole lot of shit talk over nothing. I wasn't catching feeling at all just disagreeing with you. Stock, the STi would walk me. But with chip it'd be close. And with the other two mods following that it would probably pull the STi.

And that wouldnt be a half bad idea except that i'm out of fluids because i already beat on your girls forhead. Thanks for you input :D

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ORIGINAL: Cappachinoo

ORIGINAL: tsbpenguin

ORIGINAL: Cappachinoo

You have a luxury sport cruiser, not a race car like the STI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUHa8Pjk08


Seen the video.

And what's your point? It may be a luxury cruiser however with the same engine as the s4, and only 100lbs lighter, i see no reason why it cant run like a sports car while maintaining it's luxury cruiser status. That's half the appeal. Who would expect a 3800lb audi boat to walk an STi?

Don't have the car yet but i'll make sure to get videos. Im thinking, APR Chip (since its already installed), VAST dp's, and a DIY dual front mount system. I have 4 2.5" 90 degree mandrel bends and 4' of 2.5" straight pipe so i was thinking if i buy a bunch of intercooler coupler tube i can try to create a DIY dual front mount system for around 400 dollars. May not be perfect but it'd be better than spending 2 grand on a kit.


My point is, you dont have a race car.....my point is, stock, your car wont beat an STI, my point is, even with all them upgrade you have, you still wont beat the STI.

Your catching feeling and you dont even have the car, you are acting like I'm talking about your girl or something, go put STI on her forhead and beat that.


Haha wow that's a whole lot of shit talk over nothing. I wasn't catching feeling at all just disagreeing with you. Stock, the STi would walk me. But with chip it'd be close. And with the other two mods following that it would probably pull the STi.

And that wouldnt be a half bad idea except that i'm out of fluids because i already beat on your girls forhead. Thanks for you input :D


The key word is GIRLS, you must have heard about me. I'll teach you some game someday, I guess thats why my car is still stock, All the GIRLS I spend money on.

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The key word is GIRLS, you must have heard about me. I'll teach you some game someday, I guess thats why my car is still stock, All the GIRLS I spend money on.


Haha yes im sure. A true internet pimp!

I think it's you that needs the teaching. You don't need to spend money to get pussy my man.

The STi will destroy you. Don't waste your time or your money.

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The STi will destroy you. Don't waste your time or your money.


Not wasting it. I'm getting the car wether or not it will beat an STi. Just considering the possibilities after upgrades. ko4's seems to be the way to go though.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yoes07_kpx8
That s4 with ko4's eats the STi alive...

and here's a DIFFERENT ko4 S4 keeping up with an F430.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-dOtdGX9sPM

ORIGINAL: Kevin
The STi will destroy you. Don't waste your time or your money.


Untrue. He will not DESTROY him. Why is everyone so dramatic...? Chipped the 2.7T is pushing 310 at the crank, with about 350 lb/feet. STi is 300/300. Yes, the STi is significantly lighter, but I personally think you'd have a shot if you went from a roll. The higher speed roll you start at, I'm guessing the better chances you have. From a dig, while you will have more torque than the STi, your launch still won't be too impressive because the A6 is one big, heavy mother, and if anyone here knows anything about STis/Evos is that they are launch monsters.

At high speeds, though, weight penalities are diminished and your superior torque, not to mention two more cylinders should help you keep up. A Stage II (chip + exhaust) S4 tops out at more than 170 mph (GPS verified). I don't see any reason for the A6 being much slower, and stock STi sure as hell isn't getting up that high. (not that you're racing that high, just saying)

You MIGHT nudge past him at over 100 mph, but it's highly unlikely you'll get a decisive victory EVEN from a high roll. It'll be an admirable loss though, not some sort of slaughter, blow-out, massacre like the guys here seem to want you to think, tsb. :D

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The STi will destroy you. Don't waste your time or your money.

Doubt it, big variable is the driver. I agree wit the above comment. Llke i said before, wieght is your issue when pulling away from the line. With assuming equal drivers, he'll pull from a dig. From a roll, it'll be closer nut I still give the STI the advantage, slight though because your mid range torque will do magic :)

From 60-130 the Audi will hold its own, but it will never recover from the weight disadvantage off the line. Just my opinion. With that said, I would choose to drive the Audi every time. I just would not be trying to turn it into a red lightracer.

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You have a luxury sport cruiser, not a race car like the STI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUHa8Pjk08


I have to agree, yes the A6 can/could be fast, but the reality is, it's still a luxury sport car, (it is what it is).If you wanttorace the race cars, go by a race car. Now, I'm talking stock here, The S4 in the video has stock 340hp, so what do you think the STI will do to a A6 with stock 250hp? You get a mod, he gets a mod and the outcome will be the same. Just be happy with what you got, if not get something else.

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You have a luxury sport cruiser, not a race car like the STI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaUHa8Pjk08


I have to agree, yes the A6 can/could be fast, but the reality is, it's still a luxury sport car, (it is what it is).If you wanttorace the race cars, go by a race car. Now, I'm talking stock here, The S4 in the video has stock 340hp, so what do you think the STI will do to a A6 with stock 250hp? You get a mod, he gets a mod and the outcome will be the same. Just be happy with what you got, if not get something else.


Notice i said a CHIPPED a6 vs a STOCK sti.

not stock for stock. I think that's what everyone is getting mixed up here

ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot
I have to agree, yes the A6 can/could be fast, but the reality is, it's still a luxury sport car, (it is what it is).If you wanttorace the race cars, go by a race car. Now, I'm talking stock here, The S4 in the video has stock 340hp, so what do you think the STI will do to a A6 with stock 250hp? You get a mod, he gets a mod and the outcome will be the same. Just be happy with what you got, if not get something else.


Ok. First of all, the topic clearly states that he has an APR chip (amongst other performance goodies), so he never claimed to want to race an STi with a stock A6. And not only that, but he also says the he's racing a stock STi, so the whole "you get a mod, he get's a mod" argument is a moot point. In this discussion we are talking about a chipped A6 and it's performance versus a stock STi.

That top gear video doesn't prove much. First of all, the S4 DOES catch up and passes the STi right at the end. (the Evolution is long gone) Second of all, the S4 lost MOST of its ground in the beginning half of the sprint, where the Evo and STi have a very significant weight advantage from a dead stop and are 0-60 monsters because of their ability to literally rip off the line. Low weight + high RPMs + AWD = insanely quick launch, which is where the S4 lost most of its ground.

However! (and this is a big however) if TopGear had done an acceleration test from 75-130, the outcome wouldn't have been exactly the same as it was. The S4 still might not edge out the Evolution, but the STi would have been deep fried. I mean the S4 DID catch up to and pass the STi eventually in the off the line run, which just shows that without all of the ground to make up from a launch, it would have embarassed the STi at higher speeds. This is the same situation with an A6. While it doesn't have all of the power of the V8 S4 (~310 hp vs. ~340), it's torque production is much more linear and instantly there because of the twin turbos.

So, I maintain my theory that at high speeds the A6 does have a smidgen of a chance, and even if it did lose, it would be quite a close loss.

The other thing that makes the top gear bogus is that it's a JDM STi (2.0 not 2.5) So it's not anywhere near an accurate comparison.

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Ok so i may be purchasing a 00 2.7T 6mt A6 with just over 100k mi on it, (timing belt just done) it's got an APR chip with the 4 options, rs4 clutch, and lightened flywheel. How would i hold up against my friend's bone stock 06 sti? From a roll? How about a dig? I'm talking about car capability because i already know i'm a better driver than he is.


Have you actually driven the car yet? And if so, did you just test drive it or did you drive it like it was yours?

ORIGINAL: tsbpenguin
The other thing that makes the top gear bogus is that it's a JDM STi (2.0 not 2.5) So it's not anywhere near an accurate comparison.

Indeed. I just noticed that he mentions that in the beginning. Good catch.[sm=proof.gif] The STi is a little over-rated anyway, in my opinion. While it is a very fast car, everyone seems to automatically think that it's the king of the streets. Yes, with minor mods it wakes up nicely, but stock it isn't what it's hyped up to be. Fast, but not untouchable.

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Ok so i may be purchasing a 00 2.7T 6mt A6 with just over 100k mi on it, (timing belt just done) it's got an APR chip with the 4 options, rs4 clutch, and lightened flywheel. How would i hold up against my friend's bone stock 06 sti? From a roll? How about a dig? I'm talking about car capability because i already know i'm a better driver than he is.


Have you actually driven the car yet? And if so, did you just test drive it or did you drive it like it was yours?




I have not driven the specific car but i have driven a chipped a6 6mt. I've also test driven about 3 stock sti's but the thing is i couldnt tell much of a difference so i was hoping the community would shed some light.

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The other thing that makes the top gear bogus is that it's a JDM STi (2.0 not 2.5) So it's not anywhere near an accurate comparison.

Indeed. I just noticed that he mentions that in the beginning. Good catch.[sm=proof.gif] The STi is a little over-rated anyway, in my opinion. While it is a very fast car, everyone seems to automatically think that it's the king of the streets. Yes, with minor mods it wakes up nicely, but stock it isn't what it's hyped up to be. Fast, but not untouchable.




The STi has decentmod response. Not great. Nothing compared to an evo or a 2.7t. STi's are nowhere near king of the streets. That title would belong to s4's, cobras, and some evo's in my opionion.

ORIGINAL: tsbpenguin
The STi has decentmod response. Not great. Nothing compared to an evo or a 2.7t. STi's are nowhere near king of the streets. That title would belong to s4's, cobras, and some evo's in my opionion.


This is turning into a two person discussion. Hahah. [sm=icon_rofl.gif]

Well, if we are talking REAL kings of the streets here. I'd say Evos, B5 S4s, Terminator Cobras (2003-2004), the ever hated/loved Supra, and the rarely found Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4. I've been a passenger in a 3000GT with approx. 450-500 horsepower and it was ludicrously fast.

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ORIGINAL: tsbpenguin
The STi has decentmod response. Not great. Nothing compared to an evo or a 2.7t. STi's are nowhere near king of the streets. That title would belong to s4's, cobras, and some evo's in my opionion.


This is turning into a two person discussion. Hahah. [sm=icon_rofl.gif]

Well, if we are talking REAL kings of the streets here. I'd say Evos, B5 S4s, Terminator Cobras (2003-2004), the ever hated/loved Supra, and the rarely found Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4. I've been a passenger in a 3000GT with approx. 450-500 horsepower and it was ludicrously fast.





Haha sorry not to specify clearly. I was also refering to B5 S4 and Termi Cobras. Supras im on the edge about because their 700rwhp would be dead even with about a 550rwhp cobra... And i'm not too impressed with Vr-4's. I've had two friends with them and neither one was anything to awe at. Both made decent power too.

ORIGINAL: tsbpenguin
Supras im on the edge about because their 700rwhp would be dead even with about a 550rwhp cobra.


Your thread has officially been hijacked by us.....

Just to play the devil's advocate here, are you sure about that? Supras weigh in at about 3200 pounds. Cobras are about the same, so the weight isn't what does it. I'm guessing you mean for an average slow roll/dead stop pull? The only thing that really kills Supras off the line is the insane turbo lag from running a gigantic turbo, which wouldn't affect the Terminator because of the I-don't-know-what-lag-is supercharger. On the highway though, it's a VERY difficult task to beat a 600-700 horsepower Supra with anything. I don't mean to say that it wouldn't happen/hasn't happened, just that it is difficult with a properly tuned Supra.
I also acknowledge that as far as tunablity goes, you can be pushing 800 horsepower in a 2JZ from a Supra and have virtually stock durability, which is still incredibly impressive. It is safe to say that the Supra is a bit of dyno-queen, though.

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I have to agree, yes the A6 can/could be fast, but the reality is, it's still a luxury sport car, (it is what it is).If you wanttorace the race cars, go by a race car. Now, I'm talking stock here, The S4 in the video has stock 340hp, so what do you think the STI will do to a A6 with stock 250hp? You get a mod, he gets a mod and the outcome will be the same. Just be happy with what you got, if not get something else.


Ok. First of all, the topic clearly states that he has an APR chip (amongst other performance goodies), so he never claimed to want to race an STi with a stock A6. And not only that, but he also says the he's racing a stock STi, so the whole "you get a mod, he get's a mod" argument is a moot point. In this discussion we are talking about a chipped A6 and it's performance versus a stock STi.

That top gear video doesn't prove much. First of all, the S4 DOES catch up and passes the STi right at the end. (the Evolution is long gone) Second of all, the S4 lost MOST of its ground in the beginning half of the sprint, where the Evo and STi have a very significant weight advantage from a dead stop and are 0-60 monsters because of their ability to literally rip off the line. Low weight + high RPMs + AWD = insanely quick launch, which is where the S4 lost most of its ground.

However! (and this is a big however) if TopGear had done an acceleration test from 75-130, the outcome wouldn't have been exactly the same as it was. The S4 still might not edge out the Evolution, but the STi would have been deep fried. I mean the S4 DID catch up to and pass the STi eventually in the off the line run, which just shows that without all of the ground to make up from a launch, it would have embarassed the STi at higher speeds. This is the same situation with an A6. While it doesn't have all of the power of the V8 S4 (~310 hp vs. ~340), it's torque production is much more linear and instantly there because of the twin turbos.

So, I maintain my theory that at high speeds the A6 does have a smidgen of a chance, and even if it did lose, it would be quite a close loss.




Dag, you acting like I'm talking about your mother or something :(, clam down, its just a car, it's not even that serious, nor is it your car. Ipaid my 2 cents, you can keep the change and the smart ass responce.

How, whats the average 1/4 mile time of a chipped A6?

ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot
Dag, you acting like I'm talking about your mother or something :(, clam down, its just a car, it's not even that serious, nor is it your car. Ipaid my 2 cents, you can keep the change and the smart ass responce.


I didn't mean to sound aggressive, I just wanted all the facts to be on the table. I didn't intend it to be a smart-ass reponse, so I apologize for coming across that way. [X(]

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Dag, you acting like I'm talking about your mother or something :(, clam down, its just a car, it's not even that serious, nor is it your car. Ipaid my 2 cents, you can keep the change and the smart ass responce.

How, whats the average 1/4 mile time of a chipped A6?


All we're trying to do is point you to the first post and the title clearing up the fact that its a CHIPPED A6 vs a stock STi not a stock one. As for the average 1/4 of a chipped a6, i have no idea but it's quite irrelevant as we've come to the conclusion that the STi has the launch and 0-60 advantage. So it's more of a roll issue than a 1/4 time issue.

Since we are on the Supra topic now, a friend of mine had a 1994 Supra (the best year, but he loses points because it an automatic) and he has a full exhaust, including a down pipe. I raced him with my stock 2.7 S-Line from a dead stop. I got the jump on him, but he did run me down, as he was suppose to, but from a roll, he has nuffin on me. I’m kinda feeling what yall are saying about the 2.7 vs. the STI, but he has a hard time beating the STI’s and the SRT4 Neon with his Supra, so I don’t know.

I don’t see what hype about the Supra is anyway. Personally, I would rather have a Twin Turbo Nissan 300ZX or a Mazda RX7 over the Supra any day. They are a lot lighter then the Supra and I know that I’m going to catch a lot of heat from yall, but stock for stock, they are faster than the Supra too.

ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C
I don’t see what hype about the Supra is anyway. Personally, I would rather have a Twin Turbo Nissan 300ZX or a Mazda RX7 over the Supra any day. They are a lot lighter then the Supra and I know that I’m going to catch a lot of heat from yall, but stock for stock, they are faster than the Supra too.


Yeah, you're completely right. RX7s are amazing performing and amazing looking cars, the problem is that the rotary doesn't have too much big power to provide, even when heavily turbo'd. It has a severe lack of torque, regardless what you do to it. That's why an LS1 swap is quite popular amongst the RX7 guys to bring them up to big gun power numbers. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a 500 horsepower LS1 RX7 was completely untouchable on the street.

I love RX7s. They are better looking, MUCH better handling, and rarer than Supras are. Glad you reminded me about them. :D

So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?

The hype about supra's is that they can handle an amazing amount of horsepower and torque on their stock internals. Literally a stock supra can handle 800 horsepower. Not many cars can say that. They are also one of the best looking ever made, an opinoin but a warranted one. I also love the rx-7 but it is to small. And they have no torque. While were on the subject though my choice would definitly be a 240sx s15 silvia, fully built sr20 motor with a decent sized turbo. Also a big problem with the 300zx is that their tranny's and drivetrain's suck.

i dont know how much rarer a rx-7 is than a supra, but i think i could believe it.

Dont talk about it, be about it. The only way to find out is to race him.

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?


over hyped or over rated, there is no way that an chipped A6is going to beat a stock STI. point blank. a stock STI does a 1/4 mile somewhere in the low 13's. depending on the driver. a stock A6does the 1/4 mile in what....i'm guessing somewhere in the mid 15's maybe? i'm basing that on the nissan maxima because they are about the same size, hp, and weight. with the weight of the A6, i doubt that a chip is going to knock 3 second of the car. even if you change the tires from all season to summer, i still dont think it will happen. the STI it built to race and the A6 isnt.

btw....a REAL race doesnt isnt from arolling start. to me, that a cop out. lol...in track and field, they dont start a race from a walking start. horse racing dont start from a walking start.

my point is that you wont win.

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?


over hyped or over rated, there is no way that an chipped A6is going to beat a stock STI. point blank. a stock STI does a 1/4 mile somewhere in the low 13's. depending on the driver. a stock A6does the 1/4 mile in what....i'm guessing somewhere in the mid 15's maybe? i'm basing that on the nissan maxima because they are about the same size, hp, and weight. with the weight of the A6, i doubt that a chip is going to knock 3 second of the car. even if you change the tires from all season to summer, i still dont think it will happen. the STI it built to race and the A6 isnt.

btw....a REAL doesnt start from a rolling start. to me, that a cop out. lol...in track and field, they dont start a race from a walking start.


Haha mid 15s no. Mid 14s yes. You honestly don't think 70hp and 130 ft lbs would lower a time at least a second? Get real dude its much more of a competition than you think.

Roll races arent a cop out. Just another form. Its not like just because you race from a roll you can ONLY race from a roll. Track and field example, they have different lengths of races. Different people are better at different lengths. Well certain cars are better at certain types of racing. If roll racing is to your advantage, why not do it.

I liked the whole conversation about an S4 not being able to bean a Supra, ahhh well boys here'stwoclips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RObHVaIj57c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srm89x9-ZZc&mode=related&search=audi%20s4%20supra

Notice the STI is behind anyways...that's the way it should be :D

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I liked the whole conversation about an S4 not being able to bean a Supra, ahhh well boys here'stwoclips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RObHVaIj57c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srm89x9-ZZc&mode=related&search=audi%20s4%20supra


Impressive. I wonder, though what the power potential of an S4 is with GT turbos, as opposed to K04s. There will be more lag, but much more total power available. I've seen a VAST setup with GT turbos and I think it made in the neighborhood of 600 horsepower. Kind of surprised they haven't been marketing the heck out of that.

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?



Still looking for someone to tell you what you obviously want to hear? Still trying to come to terms with the fact that your friend has a quicker car than the one you are thinking of buying?

ORIGINAL: EnviedA6

I liked the whole conversation about an S4 not being able to bean a Supra, ahhh well boys here'stwoclips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RObHVaIj57c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srm89x9-ZZc&mode=related&search=audi%20s4%20supra

I just watched the VIDS and yo... Spanked the sh*t outta that Supra....

Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??

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Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??


Better chance than TSB, but the weight will be a problem.

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Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??

WOW that IS impressive considering the low mod potential of the 4.2!!! 376AWHP!!!!! What dyno? I would think it should the # of HP you have at the crank! I am really impressed Isn't is 340hp crank stock? and the chip+exhaust should 20-30hp!... Anything else on it?

I think you have shot if it is your real AWHPbut the auto trany will kill you from a dig... go form a roll

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?



Still looking for someone to tell you what you obviously want to hear? Still trying to come to terms with the fact that your friend has a quicker car than the one you are thinking of buying?


Haha no see I don't care because 1, I'm spending 10k he spent 32k. 2, after spending around 7k in mods (17k total vehicle cost) i will walk him and most other cars on the street. So i don't need any consolation. Pull the stick out of your ass and play nice.

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Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??


Considering stock STi's dyno around 240awhp id say there's not much chance you wouldnt beat him. Even with 600 extra lbs if you really have 126 extra whp you shouldnt have a problem.

I am thinking his hp # is an estimated crank hp # based onthe dyno Whp

I saw a GT3 put down 686RWHP last week on the dyno!

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I am thinking his hp # is an estimated crank hp # based onthe dyno Whp


It would make more sense with his mods. He said "to the wheels" but i'm not so sure.

In that case id say it'd be a close race and the STi may even pull him.

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Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??


Better chance than TSB, but the weight will be a problem.


Yeah it is a heavy sucker, but sexy as all heck.. Thanks for the input much appreciated.

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Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??

WOW that IS impressive considering the low mod potential of the 4.2!!! 376AWHP!!!!! What dyno? I would think it should the # of HP you have at the crank! I am really impressed Isn't is 340hp crank stock? and the chip+exhaust should 20-30hp!... Anything else on it?

I think you have shot if it is your real AWHPbut the auto trany will kill you from a dig... go form a roll


Do not be impressed my wife is pissed and pockets are empty... LOL And I ran it at a local Dyno here where I live that does all the dyno work for Lebanon Valley Speedway.. And as stated what came up at time of dyno was 376 to the wheels.. nothing else I mean a K&N filter, but not worth mentioning...

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Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??


Considering stock STi's dyno around 240awhp id say there's not much chance you wouldnt beat him. Even with 600 extra lbs if you really have 126 extra whp you shouldnt have a problem.


STI's Dyno at 240??? Darn I thought they were hitting 300's all day long...

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I am thinking his hp # is an estimated crank hp # based onthe dyno Whp


Yeah that was my first time at a Dyno outside of my 1999 ZX-9 putting 183 to the wheels..... Of course I got rid of it when a pitbull ran out in front of me sending me rolling for almost 30 yards.. no injuries though thank goodness..

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Ok, not to hijack the thread, but since we are on the subject of A6 verse STI; I have an 03 A6 Quattro Sport 4.2 with APR chip, Millitek exhaust, 01032 tiptronic upgrade, Tein coilovers, Hotchkis sway barkit and an NX TPS nitrous kit. Was going to add the 355mm Brembo kit and wife said get it and go live in the car, so I decided to keep my bed... LOL...The car was dynoed without running the NOS at 376HP to the wheels... Do you think I have a chance against a stock STI??


Considering stock STi's dyno around 240awhp id say there's not much chance you wouldnt beat him. Even with 600 extra lbs if you really have 126 extra whp you shouldnt have a problem.


TS all I can do is inform of what MODS I have added and what the dyno guy informed me for HP based on the print out he gave me.... I actually am going to see him next weekend to see if he had a copy to give me since my 4 year old decided to use mine as a placemat... The guy is very reputable and extremely knowledgeable as he has been doing this for almost 25 years.. SoI cannot argue the point of yes it is accurate or no it is not,I am stock at 300 HP added the 93 APR chip, exhaust and filter and 376 is what he came up with at dyno time...

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I saw a GT3 put down 686RWHP last week on the dyno!


686?????????????? That is absolutely SICK.... Oh wow what it would be to have that at my finger tips...

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TS all I can do is inform of what MODS I have added and what the dyno guy informed me for HP based on the print out he gave me.... I actually am going to see him next weekend to see if he had a copy to give me since my 4 year old decided to use mine as a placemat... The guy is very reputable and extremely knowledgeable as he has been doing this for almost 25 years.. SoI cannot argue the point of yes it is accurate or no it is not,I am stock at 300 HP added the 93 APR chip, exhaust and filter and 376 is what he came up with at dyno time...


First off STi's are 300 bhp not whp. Turns into about 240-260whp depending on the car, place, dyno, weather, etc.

Second off with those mods i would guess it was on a mustang dyno (they're not as accurate).

None the less i'd say it will be a close race to an STi.

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?



Still looking for someone to tell you what you obviously want to hear? Still trying to come to terms with the fact that your friend has a quicker car than the one you are thinking of buying?


Haha no see I don't care because 1, I'm spending 10k he spent 32k. 2, after spending around 7k in mods (17k total vehicle cost) i will walk him and most other cars on the street. So i don't need any consolation. Pull the stick out of your ass and play nice.


If you don't care, and don't need consolation, as you claim, why do you keep seeking to have someone agreethat your perfectly good highway cruising luxury car is a 0-60 bullet? Its not. Enjoy the car for what it is. Fast, comfortable and reasonably quick,butnot the quickest car on the block.

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If you don't care, and don't need consolation, as you claim, why do you keep seeking to have someone agreethat your perfectly good highway cruising luxury car is a 0-60 bullet? Its not. Enjoy the car for what it is. Fast, comfortable and reasonably quick,butnot the quickest car on the block.


Im not claiming it to be a 0-60 bullet by any means. It's too heavy. But a roll race is a different story. If you are that ignorant about the car's ability go watch some s4 videos on youtube/streetfire. The a6 has the same engine, same tranny, and just an extra 100lbs so why is it so hard to believe it would have the same tendencies as the s4? The a6 is actually lighter than the s4 avants...

I don't need to watch videos. I have driven A6s, STis, F430s, Aston Martins, Bentley GTs, Lamborghinis, Ford GTs, 911 turbos and many more street cars. I have also driven NASCAR at Pocono. I have first hand knowledge ofthe quickness and the speed of cars and do not need to watch videos.

I am glad that you finally seem to have agreed thatthe A6 is heavy and not a 0-60 car. In time you may even agree that while it is an ok1/4 mile car it is not a pack leader. With that said, I think the A6 is a great highway car that does well in the 70-130 range, especially if chipped.

With that said, the only roll race youstay close to the STi will be one that starts at 70MPH or above. So I suggest that you visit the Autobahn, otherwise just sign the title over to your friend.

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I don't need to watch videos. I have driven A6s, STis, F430s, Aston Martins, Bentley GTs, Lamborghinis, Ford GTs, 911 turbos and many more street cars. I have also driven NASCAR at Pocono. I have first hand knowledge ofthe quickness and the speed of cars and do not need to watch videos.

I am glad that you finally seem to have agreed thatthe A6 is heavy and not a 0-60 car. In time you may even agree that while it is an ok1/4 mile car it is not a pack leader. With that said, I think the A6 is a great highway car that does well in the 70-130 range, especially if chipped.

With that said, the only roll race youstay close to the STi will be one that starts at 70MPH or above. So I suggest that you visit the Autobahn, otherwise just sign the title over to your friend.




I thought u had finally gathered an understanding of the car's capability but obviously not.

For the about the 6th time (feels like the 100th) we're not talking about a stock a6 here. We are talking chipped. And as for the capability im DEFINITELY not talking stock. Im saying with stage 3, the a6 will take most of the "street kings" even when they are modified.

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I think the A6 is a great highway car that does well in the 70-130 range, especially if chipped.

With that said, the only roll race youstay close to the STi will be one that starts at 70MPH or above. So I suggest that you visit the Autobahn, otherwise just sign the title over to your friend.


I've made sure to bold all the statements of your post that were established on the first page, yet you continue todiscuss them as ifyou areoffering upprofound statements .Tsb has long acknowledged the fact that he is not looking for a 0-60 victory here, so why is there STILL discussion about this on the third (and possibly fourth) page of this post? I acknowledged that he would excel from 75-130 on the FIRST page of this topic, and after that point, we stopped talking about a0-60victorybecause it's a lost cause and won't happen.....

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I have first hand knowledge of the quickness and the speed of cars and do not need to watch videos.

I didn't want to quote the vast number of cars you've driven, because that would just take up an unnecessary amount of space in my already excessively long post. It's wonderful that you had such a great opportunity to drive such exotic machines, but unless you've driven an APR chipped A6 (with the other performance goodies that he has) against a stock '06 STi in the same atmospheric conditions, I don't think your "performance car driving credentials" offer any legitimacy to your post(s). The fact that you are on the verge ofdeclaring videos to be a worthless source of knowledge troubles me. I'm glad you know how fast a Ford GT and a 911 Turboare while we do not, but in this instance, videos of similarly equipped cars are more helpful in determining who will win and at what speedsthan the fact thatyou've driven a Ferrari F430. And even since you've driven an STi and A6, unless you drove them against each other, each car's sensation of speed is different. Judging who will win based on a seat of the pants "this car feels faster" scale is impossible to do accurately.

I'm sorry to sound so aggressive, it's just that at this point of the topic I'm getting tired (as is tsb)of re-establishing the situation of the racewhich wasdone long ago.

It seem like the Don Quixote complex has spread. Just let me know when the race is takng place so that I can make some money.

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It seem like the Don Quixote complex has spread. Just let me know when the race is takng place so that I can make some money.


With what? Your super fast 4.2? Don't make me laugh...

bunch of funny guys here!!! You guys are pretty hard on each other... it is just a post on an Audi Enthusiasts' forum... We're not deciding on the fate of the world here :)

A race car is a race car and a luxury performance sedan is just that. Whenever you want to increase performance, you have to realize that some luxury will be given up. The more performance, the harsher the ride. That is why the RS4/M3's are such great cars. They are a nice balance of both worlds.

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It seem like the Don Quixote complex has spread. Just let me know when the race is takng place so that I can make some money.


With what? Your super fast 4.2? Don't make me laugh...


I was going to put my money on the STi.

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It seem like the Don Quixote complex has spread.

I don't think I understand you correctly. I was the first one to suggest that a race from 70 mph (fine, I said 75) to 130 mph could be, and most likely would be very close. Tsb has agreed with me, along with some encouraging words from other individuals, so how is this an example of the Don Quixote complex? It's not like no one understands me. I also understand the points that you've made, and agreed with them. For example, you said that the STi would blow him away from 0-60. I agree 100%. You also said that the A6 is not a race car. I also agree with you on that 100%.

So, I don't even know where our main argument has gone, because at this point I agree with you on everything, and I even mentioned the fact that it would be an ideal race from 75-130, and you persist in making flippant comments as if I have no idea what I'm talking about when I mentioned the same points you insist I'm not making 2 pages ago. That's my one beef.

Like I've mentioned before, I'm not trying to be a spoil sport, or a jerk at all, I'm just clearing up issues that deserve to be cleared up.

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It seem like the Don Quixote complex has spread.

I don't think I understand you correctly. I was the first one to suggest that a race from 70 mph (fine, I said 75) to 130 mph could be, and most likely would be very close. Tsb has agreed with me, along with some encouraging words from other individuals, so how is this an example of the Don Quixote complex? It's not like no one understands me. I also understand the points that you've made, and agreed with them. For example, you said that the STi would blow him away from 0-60. I agree 100%. You also said that the A6 is not a race car. I also agree with you on that 100%.

So, I don't even know where our main argument has gone, because at this point I agree with you on everything, and I even mentioned the fact that it would be an ideal race from 75-130, and you persist in making flippant comments as if I have no idea what I'm talking about when I mentioned the same points you insist I'm not making 2 pages ago. That's my one beef.

Like I've mentioned before, I'm not trying to be a spoil sport, or a jerk at all, I'm just clearing up issues that deserve to be cleared up.



I am glad that we are in agreement.

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?


over hyped or over rated, there is no way that an chipped A6is going to beat a stock STI. point blank. a stock STI does a 1/4 mile somewhere in the low 13's. depending on the driver. a stock A6does the 1/4 mile in what....i'm guessing somewhere in the mid 15's maybe? i'm basing that on the nissan maxima because they are about the same size, hp, and weight. with the weight of the A6, i doubt that a chip is going to knock 3 second of the car. even if you change the tires from all season to summer, i still dont think it will happen. the STI it built to race and the A6 isnt.

btw....a REAL doesnt start from a rolling start. to me, that a cop out. lol...in track and field, they dont start a race from a walking start.


Haha mid 15s no. Mid 14s yes. You honestly don't think 70hp and 130 ft lbs would lower a time at least a second? Get real dude its much more of a competition than you think.

Roll races arent a cop out. Just another form. Its not like just because you race from a roll you can ONLY race from a roll. Track and field example, they have different lengths of races. Different people are better at different lengths. Well certain cars are better at certain types of racing. If roll racing is to your advantage, why not do it.


You are right, in track in field, they do have different race lengths. With the exception of relay race where you get handed the stick from a running start, but the race still starts from the starting block.

Just give it a rest, you are not going to beat your homeboy’s car. You don’t even have the car yet, so why are you dwelling over it?


I was was right on my guess. i didnt some research, and the A6 does a 1/4 mile in a 15.3, so my S-Line MIGHT do a 15 or a lil less, but not by that much

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1848.shtml

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?


over hyped or over rated, there is no way that an chipped A6is going to beat a stock STI. point blank. a stock STI does a 1/4 mile somewhere in the low 13's. depending on the driver. a stock A6does the 1/4 mile in what....i'm guessing somewhere in the mid 15's maybe? i'm basing that on the nissan maxima because they are about the same size, hp, and weight. with the weight of the A6, i doubt that a chip is going to knock 3 second of the car. even if you change the tires from all season to summer, i still dont think it will happen. the STI it built to race and the A6 isnt.

btw....a REAL doesnt start from a rolling start. to me, that a cop out. lol...in track and field, they dont start a race from a walking start.


Haha mid 15s no. Mid 14s yes. You honestly don't think 70hp and 130 ft lbs would lower a time at least a second? Get real dude its much more of a competition than you think.

Roll races arent a cop out. Just another form. Its not like just because you race from a roll you can ONLY race from a roll. Track and field example, they have different lengths of races. Different people are better at different lengths. Well certain cars are better at certain types of racing. If roll racing is to your advantage, why not do it.


You are right, in track in field, they do have different race lengths. With the exception of relay race where you get handed the stick from a running start, but the race still starts from the starting block.

Just give it a rest, you are not going to beat your homeboy’s car. You don’t even have the car yet, so why are you dwelling over it?


I was was right on my guess. i didnt some research, and the A6 does a 1/4 mile in a 15.3, so my S-Line MIGHT do a 15 or a lil less, but not by that much

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1848.shtml



Oh i really don't care if he will/does beat me, that's the thing. I just care that everyone is getting so worked up over a stupid topic, starting a bunch of shit that doesnt need to be started. Not saying you, just this thread in general.

I'll just go stage 3, and tell him i'm stock. How about that everyone? Haha some people will probably say i'll still lose...

Is it really that serious, I mean, so what if he beats you. The only thing it will prove is that his race car that was designed to perform beats your luxury car. You just need more mods, but then again, is it really that serious.

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So ANYWAY back on topic.. Lets hear some more opinions about the STi vs APR A6 race?


over hyped or over rated, there is no way that an chipped A6is going to beat a stock STI. point blank. a stock STI does a 1/4 mile somewhere in the low 13's. depending on the driver. a stock A6does the 1/4 mile in what....i'm guessing somewhere in the mid 15's maybe? i'm basing that on the nissan maxima because they are about the same size, hp, and weight. with the weight of the A6, i doubt that a chip is going to knock 3 second of the car. even if you change the tires from all season to summer, i still dont think it will happen. the STI it built to race and the A6 isnt.

btw....a REAL doesnt start from a rolling start. to me, that a cop out. lol...in track and field, they dont start a race from a walking start.


Haha mid 15s no. Mid 14s yes. You honestly don't think 70hp and 130 ft lbs would lower a time at least a second? Get real dude its much more of a competition than you think.

Roll races arent a cop out. Just another form. Its not like just because you race from a roll you can ONLY race from a roll. Track and field example, they have different lengths of races. Different people are better at different lengths. Well certain cars are better at certain types of racing. If roll racing is to your advantage, why not do it.


You are right, in track in field, they do have different race lengths. With the exception of relay race where you get handed the stick from a running start, but the race still starts from the starting block.

Just give it a rest, you are not going to beat your homeboy’s car. You don’t even have the car yet, so why are you dwelling over it?


I was was right on my guess. i didnt some research, and the A6 does a 1/4 mile in a 15.3, so my S-Line MIGHT do a 15 or a lil less, but not by that much

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1848.shtml



Oh i really don't care if he will/does beat me, that's the thing. I just care that everyone is getting so worked up over a stupid topic, starting a bunch of shit that doesnt need to be started. Not saying you, just this thread in general.

I'll just go stage 3, and tell him i'm stock. How about that everyone? Haha some people will probably say i'll still lose...


I found out that no one is running stock anymore. I ran this Legacy GT about 3 weeks ago because he looked stock and since I’m stock I knew that I could beat him. WRONG ANSWER!!! I heard his blow off valve, his bigger turbo, and his full exhaust.

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Is it really that serious, I mean, so what if he beats you. The only thing it will prove is that his race car that was designed to perform beats your luxury car. You just need more mods, but then again, is it really that serious.


Read what i posted right before you. I JUST said I honestly don't care if he beats me it's just a thread asking a question. I don't get why everyone thinks i care if he beats me. So what his 32,000 dollar car beats my 10,000 car? If i put $22k more into the car it wouldnt even be a question...

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Is it really that serious, I mean, so what if he beats you. The only thing it will prove is that his race car that was designed to perform beats your luxury car. You just need more mods, but then again, is it really that serious.


Read what i posted right before you. I JUST said I honestly don't care if he beats me it's just a thread asking a question. I don't get why everyone thinks i care if he beats me. So what his 32,000 dollar car beats my 10,000 car? If i put $22k more into the car it wouldnt even be a question...


See, that responce shows that you care and when people read your responces they put there $10 in.

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Is it really that serious, I mean, so what if he beats you. The only thing it will prove is that his race car that was designed to perform beats your luxury car. You just need more mods, but then again, is it really that serious.


Read what i posted right before you. I JUST said I honestly don't care if he beats me it's just a thread asking a question. I don't get why everyone thinks i care if he beats me. So what his 32,000 dollar car beats my 10,000 car? If i put $22k more into the car it wouldnt even be a question...


See, that responce shows that you care and when people read your responces they put there $10 in.


What are you even saying?

It's like he's trying to speak to me...

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Is it really that serious, I mean, so what if he beats you. The only thing it will prove is that his race car that was designed to perform beats your luxury car. You just need more mods, but then again, is it really that serious.


Read what i posted right before you. I JUST said I honestly don't care if he beats me it's just a thread asking a question. I don't get why everyone thinks i care if he beats me. So what his 32,000 dollar car beats my 10,000 car? If i put $22k more into the car it wouldnt even be a question...


See, that responce shows that you care and when people read your responces they put there $10 in.


+1

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Is it really that serious, I mean, so what if he beats you. The only thing it will prove is that his race car that was designed to perform beats your luxury car. You just need more mods, but then again, is it really that serious.


Read what i posted right before you. I JUST said I honestly don't care if he beats me it's just a thread asking a question. I don't get why everyone thinks i care if he beats me. So what his 32,000 dollar car beats my 10,000 car? If i put $22k more into the car it wouldnt even be a question...


See, that responce shows that you care and when people read your responces they put there $10 in.


+1


-1

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Is it really that serious, I mean, so what if he beats you. The only thing it will prove is that his race car that was designed to perform beats your luxury car. You just need more mods, but then again, is it really that serious.


Read what i posted right before you. I JUST said I honestly don't care if he beats me it's just a thread asking a question. I don't get why everyone thinks i care if he beats me. So what his 32,000 dollar car beats my 10,000 car? If i put $22k more into the car it wouldnt even be a question...


See, that responce shows that you care and when people read your responces they put there $10 in.


+1


-1


Tyler, how is Casey doing?

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Tyler, how is Casey doing?


Don't talk to him much any more unfortunately.

You in colorado? Or just good at searching names on the internet?

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Tyler, how is Casey doing?


Don't talk to him much any more unfortunately.

You in colorado? Or just good at searching names on the internet?


When did you move to Colorado? Ifind it hard to believe that you and Casey don't talk anymore. How is Terri?

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Tyler, how is Casey doing?


Don't talk to him much any more unfortunately.

You in colorado? Or just good at searching names on the internet?


When did you move to Colorado? Ifind it hard to believe that you and Casey don't talk anymore. How is Terri?




And now i know you're a lying douschebag

Based on your interest in Subarus and Audis,and guessing that you were about 17 or 18 from your writing style and opinions,I was guessing thatyou werethe son offamily friends. When you aknowledged knowing Casey, I thought for sure you were the son ofmy friends Scott and Terri. I am glad to hear that you are not and instead live in Colorado.Sorry for the confusion. Perhaps in the future you should give people thebenefit of the doubt before you use obusive language.

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Based on your interest in Subarus and Audis,and guessing that you were about 17 or 18 from your writing style and opinions,I was guessing thatyou werethe son offamily friends. When you aknowledged knowing Casey, I thought for sure you were the son ofmy friends Scott and Terri. I am glad to hear that you are not and instead live in Colorado.Sorry for the confusion. Perhaps in the future you should give people thebenefit of the doubt before you use obusive language.


Take the situation into consideration. You're on a forum arguing an opposite opinion of mine. All of the sudden you state my name and one of my close friends. Then you state names i have no relation to. Tell me you wouldnt think the same thing if you were in my shoes.

I'll be able to tell you once I get off the pot and chip mine. So was that just a lucky guess at the name? Maybe we should have forum users audition for that new show Phenomenon.

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Based on your interest in Subarus and Audis,and guessing that you were about 17 or 18 from your writing style and opinions,I was guessing thatyou werethe son offamily friends. When you aknowledged knowing Casey, I thought for sure you were the son ofmy friends Scott and Terri. I am glad to hear that you are not and instead live in Colorado.Sorry for the confusion. Perhaps in the future you should give people thebenefit of the doubt before you use obusive language.


Take the situation into consideration. You're on a forum arguing an opposite opinion of mine. All of the sudden you state my name and one of my close friends. Then you state names i have no relation to. Tell me you wouldnt think the same thing if you were in my shoes.



No I would not think the same thing. I would not expectsomeone to take forum banter so seriously that theyscour the internetin hope of identifying a fellow forum member and then"stalking" them. Obviously you differ, and believe that such conduct is to be expected. It saddens methat you think stalkingis to be expected.

Should I be concerned that you are sitting at your computer trying to determine my identity? Should I be concerned that you are trying to determine the names of my wife and children? Should I be concerned that I am going to find the family dog hanging from a tree? Should I be concerned by your inartful use of language, including "take a stick out of your ass" and "lying douchbag"?

Thankfully, I am not concerned about any of that. I have been a member of this forum for two and a half years and take this forum for what it is, a friendly place to discuss cars, and in particlur Audis. During those two and a half years I can not recall a single discussion regarding internet "stalking". It just does not happen here. I am hoping that your recent joining of the forum is not going to be an introduction to "stalking" discussions and concerns.

Perhaps stalking is expected in your other forums, but it is not expected here and it will not be tolerated. I realize you have only been a member for two weeks, but I suggest that you quit your"stalking friendly" forums and stay here, you will find it a much friendlier place.

And this is exactly the problem. I don't know the forum well enough. I know on specific forums like NASIOC they sit around all day and stalk people over the internet for the hell of it. Just watching out for myself.

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And this is exactly the problem. I don't know the forum well enough. I know on specific forums like NASIOC they sit around all day and stalk people over the internet for the hell of it. Just watching out for myself.



AWWW, look at the lil baby:(, if you're scared go to church.

This thread is still going? I've been lurkin' this one since it started and I can't hold my fingers back any longer.

tsbpenguin,

What does it really matter whether or not WE think your car can or cannot beat the other car? You won't know until you choose to do it. If that be the case, good luck. Practice your launches and take out the typical extra stuff from your trunk. Push it hard and and shift fast. Thats about all I can offer you.

Don't be mad if you walk home.

The rest of this thread is drama and if you continue down this path you will soon lose credibility, that is, if you haven't already.

**edited for semantics and general understanding

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I know on specific forums like NASIOC they sit around all day and stalk people over the internet for the hell of it. Just watching out for myself.


That is sad.