A6 4.2 aftermarket
Login | |
|
A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/23/2007 11:04:54 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
Does it even exist? I've got an 06 A6 4.2 and am looking for some extra power beyond the giac chip. I won't be buying a used car any time soon since I've seen people generally respond with "just buy a used S4/RS4/RS6 it'll be easier" Easy isn't the point as I love my car. I am just beyond unimpressed with the cars speed, and am looking for more. I am keeping my A6 for while I am still in Utah for the sake of winter. But if worse comes to worse I could always go back to my AMGs and keep my wife's Q7 for the winter.
|
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/24/2007 11:26:52 AM
|
|
|
reaper
Posts: 88
Joined: 12/15/2006 Status: offline
|
There are a few available upgrades for you to consider. First is exhaust. headers/down-pipes / cat back. All are available through the right channels. check vastperformance.com awetuning.com etc. Next option would be intake, or for serious power a supercharger. With this would come fueling/transmission upgrades as well. This car is no different than any other car on the market. Lose some weight, add some power, and you gain your speed. This car is however designed to be a LUXURY CAR. If you want an AMG equivalent consider an S6. 435hp Lamborghini derived V10 with bigger brakes, better suspension, bigger wheels, slightly different look, and some very serious performance advantages without changing a thing from stock. If you really want to be bold, consider the S8, but that will run significantly more money. We have a pre-owned up here in Nashua, NH if you are interested. $98k with ~8k on the clock. very nice ride. If interested call me 603-578-3724
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/24/2007 12:16:59 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
Ya, I'm just looking for stuff for this car, drove the S8 and wasn't all that impressed, really just wanting some more power before the RS6 comes out. Then I'll pick that up pretty quick, and let this car just become my winter car. I'll check those sites though. Who offers a supercharger/turbo for it? I've been looking and either theres not much out there, or my google skills fail miserably. Its sad, my father has a SL65 thats been modified up to around 800 horses and 900 somethin pound feet of torque, and a S65 thats about the same. Obviously Im not going to be able ever match those, but I'd atleast like to be able to keep up with hit range rover haha. Thank you though, atleast you gave me somewhere to start looking. And please don't compare the S6/8 to AMG's theres just too much of a power difference between the cars for it to be a legitimate comparison. Yes I read the reviews where Road and track picked the S6 over the E63 and the M5 but the price had too much to do with that one. Yes they are capable cars on the track and around the corners, but in real every day driving its just underpowered. That and I don't ever trust car and driver or road and track. The fact that they picked the honda ridgeline as truck of the year..... lol.
< Message edited by kouper -- 10/24/2007 12:22:13 PM >
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/24/2007 12:27:24 PM
|
|
|
Khardysius
Posts: 558
Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: offline
|
Supercharger ---> http://www.mtm-online.de/ Audiworld has some information here ---> http://www.audiworld.com/news/07/mtm-supercharged-rs4/ Good luck! This is my 100th post! w00t!
< Message edited by Khardysius -- 10/24/2007 12:28:39 PM >
_____________________________
2002 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro || Koni Shocks || Eibach Springs || Hotchkis Sways 255/17ZR40 ContiExtremeContact || Hawk HPS Pads || Goodridge Lines
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/24/2007 12:35:43 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
ty a ton!
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/24/2007 6:52:12 PM
|
|
|
Batteries
Posts: 144
Joined: 5/1/2007 Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: kouper And please don't compare the S6/8 to AMG's theres just too much of a power difference between the cars for it to be a legitimate comparison. Yes I read the reviews where Road and track picked the S6 over the E63 and the M5 but the price had too much to do with that one. Yes they are capable cars on the track and around the corners, but in real every day driving its just underpowered. I know you're not directly criticizing Audi or anything, but the statement that there is no legitimate comparison to AMG is false, atleast partly. A chipped RS6 (2002-2004) will give E55 AMGs a run for their money (and most likely take their money). If you replace the turbos, you'll be eating much more than lowly E55s for breakfast. And saying that the M5/S6 are underpowered is a bit harsh...haha. The M5 is pushing 500 horsepower and I've seen reports of it doing 0-60 in less than 4.3 seconds. Granted, that is slower than an E55 AMG, but not "slow." I guess you're used to the speed, though, since you say your dad has an 800 horsepower SL65. You're right, though, now that I think about it. Audi doesn't really offer any ridiculous power numbers like AMG does. High end AMG (S65, SL65, E55, etc.) is in a league of its own when it comes to mind boggling power and torque. So I'm with ya, there.
< Message edited by Batteries -- 10/24/2007 6:53:33 PM >
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/24/2007 10:57:03 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Batteries quote:
ORIGINAL: kouper And please don't compare the S6/8 to AMG's theres just too much of a power difference between the cars for it to be a legitimate comparison. Yes I read the reviews where Road and track picked the S6 over the E63 and the M5 but the price had too much to do with that one. Yes they are capable cars on the track and around the corners, but in real every day driving its just underpowered. I know you're not directly criticizing Audi or anything, but the statement that there is no legitimate comparison to AMG is false, atleast partly. A chipped RS6 (2002-2004) will give E55 AMGs a run for their money (and most likely take their money). If you replace the turbos, you'll be eating much more than lowly E55s for breakfast. And saying that the M5/S6 are underpowered is a bit harsh...haha. The M5 is pushing 500 horsepower and I've seen reports of it doing 0-60 in less than 4.3 seconds. Granted, that is slower than an E55 AMG, but not "slow." I guess you're used to the speed, though, since you say your dad has an 800 horsepower SL65. You're right, though, now that I think about it. Audi doesn't really offer any ridiculous power numbers like AMG does. High end AMG (S65, SL65, E55, etc.) is in a league of its own when it comes to mind boggling power and torque. So I'm with ya, there. I just have no desire to purchase a used car (and as far as new cars goes there isn't.) And after selling Audis for 2 years I saw so many beat to **** RS6 with low miles that I wouldn't ever really trust one I'm sure that there are good ones out there, just happens a Utah used car has always seen some awful winters, haha. I didn't mean it to be a criticism agains Audi, I mean hell I've bought 3 within the last two years and own 2 atm. But at the end of the day, for their current model line up Audi is kind of playing the "well, its all wheel drive and costs a little less then our competitors" approach. I mean take the A8 W12 audi's highest end car, production line to production line that means its essentially up against either the S600 or S65, or even the S63. And while the A8 is better looking, and personally I dig its interior more, on paper, and out and about it just doesn't compete (obviously it shouldnt against them in reality because of the massive difference in price) It's just interesting that Audi brings their big guns out so much lower then their competitors when the S4 and RS4 where so directly on the money. That and the fact that the availability for power enhancement in the US is practically non existent, especially compared to the others. Dangit I love my car and don't wanna buy a new one, till the RS6 if it comes out with the right numbers :-) Maybe I should just use the Q7 as a family car and pick up the R8.
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/25/2007 11:58:30 AM
|
|
|
Khardysius
Posts: 558
Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: offline
|
I'm not too familiar with Mercedes, but this is how I see it on paper and sheer numbers. Base prices, no options (except AWD where possible). S550 vs A8 S550 (AWD model) A8 (AWD) $90,475 $70,690 382hp V8 (5.5L NA) 350hp V8 (4.2L NA) 4630 lbs 4321 lbs Pretty big difference in price. Just under $20k one could buy the SC kit from MTM and have it installed easily putting it over the 400hp mark. Notice the weight difference. Performance wise - point Audi. Price wise - offset Now for another fair comparison... S600 vs A8L S600 (no AWD option) A8L W12 (AWD) $144,975 $120,100 510hp V-12 (5.5L biturbo) 450hp W-12 (6.0L NA) 4960 lbs. 4766 lbs. Again, quite a large difference in price here, this time being almost $25k. Not many upgrades for the W-12 AFAIK, but one would think with a biturbo setup it would be pushing more than just 60hp more than the naturally aspirated W-12. Less than the first comparison, but still 200 lbs difference. Performance - point Mercedes. Price - point Audi. I would go into the S-series vs. A8, but my point here is to make sure that we are comparing like vehicles and not generalizing too much based on your last post. Finally, we can get back to the original purpose of this thread, which is the A6 with the 4.2L V8. A very fine car. Solid and glides at 90mph like its on rails; very reliable. If you are not satisfied with the A6, then you have a few options. If you need more space, get the A8. Any of those will give you more overall space and one will give you more space and more power. If you don't want to deal with the expenses of the W12, then the S8 is more than enough. If you want more space, but not quite ready for more power then get the A8 4.2 and consider the MTM SC kit. If the space is adequate, but you want more power, go for the S6 with the 435hp, 5.2L V8. None of these are BAD choices. I haven't seen a bad Audi. Of course, you could just get a Q7 and a R8 for the same price as a S65 SMG. At least it isn't a pinto.
_____________________________
2002 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro || Koni Shocks || Eibach Springs || Hotchkis Sways 255/17ZR40 ContiExtremeContact || Hawk HPS Pads || Goodridge Lines
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/25/2007 12:44:25 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
Ya, and I knew I was being a little broad. I would pick up a Q7 but I have one. And Im seeing about getting my dealerships first R8, unfortunately they're playing the sell it for double sticker card your slowly starting to see. And its not worth 180 to me, that and that means I'd have to spend that much on my wife...... lol. I didn't say audi's are bad, I just said they're a little underpowered. My 645ci (obviously not a fair comparison, but pricewise pretty fair, I picked it up for 63 with everything but the hud on the window, picked up my A6 with EVERYTHING for 61) Aside from being faster was a more engaging drive. I looked at MTM which Im trying to findout where to get some of that stuff done in the US, but at 20-30K I could just put that money down and trade my car in for an S6 straight across, but then I'll still be saying gee, I need like 50-60 more horsepower to keep up. One thing you did not account for in your comparison of the A8 W12, yes it has all wheel drive, and while it seems to be only 60 horses behind with a 200 lb weight advantage, its actually at a massive power disadvantage once you get to the ground when you account for parasitic drive train loss.
< Message edited by kouper -- 10/25/2007 12:55:22 PM >
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/25/2007 1:36:09 PM
|
|
|
Khardysius
Posts: 558
Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: offline
|
I tried to find the best % for the drivetrain loss for AWD, but became impatient. I know that is a factor, but it isn't horrible by any means. If it was that bad no sports cars would ever be AWD! As far as racing around town on your lunch break, consider a Lotus Exige! Those are ricidulously quick. Assuming you work in the city (less than 60 mph) then just get something small, agile, and with a quick spooling turbo! Shoot, why not two turbos! The only problem there is taking it easy until the turbos are at a good working temperature. If this is about maintaining a status quo you may just have to go with one of the AMGs. Even then, the car isn't the deciding factor in who wins these daily road rallies. Personally, my heart belongs to Audi. I plan on purchasing a TT225 for daily driving and trading-in my A6 for a B6 S4 once I get home. Hope it works out for you!
_____________________________
2002 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro || Koni Shocks || Eibach Springs || Hotchkis Sways 255/17ZR40 ContiExtremeContact || Hawk HPS Pads || Goodridge Lines
|
|
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/25/2007 1:56:40 PM
|
|
|
turbo kraut
 Posts: 2944
Joined: 11/6/2006 From: Des Peres, Mo Status: offline
|
i was looking at the 09 tt and how is it going to be turbo supercharged?
_____________________________
S4 bumper coming soon:)
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/25/2007 11:51:45 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Khardysius I tried to find the best % for the drivetrain loss for AWD, but became impatient. I know that is a factor, but it isn't horrible by any means. If it was that bad no sports cars would ever be AWD! As far as racing around town on your lunch break, consider a Lotus Exige! Those are ricidulously quick. Assuming you work in the city (less than 60 mph) then just get something small, agile, and with a quick spooling turbo! Shoot, why not two turbos! The only problem there is taking it easy until the turbos are at a good working temperature. If this is about maintaining a status quo you may just have to go with one of the AMGs. Even then, the car isn't the deciding factor in who wins these daily road rallies. Personally, my heart belongs to Audi. I plan on purchasing a TT225 for daily driving and trading-in my A6 for a B6 S4 once I get home. Hope it works out for you! At 6'4 275 I would crush an exige and it'd lose just as badly. we use the freeway fir about 4 miles to lunch,. :-) I like Audi's just too slow, my A6 is the slowest vehicle Ive owned for yet. (the q7 is for my wife so I dont count it) I'm trying to stay with audi im just not seeing how i can and continue to be interested in driving. I prefer sedans now with the birth of my son(and my considerable size) and the fact that I generally have other people in my car. I love Audi it just happens that they are slowly veering away from my needs. When the W12 was introduced it was a big gun, witht he german horsepower wars going on, its become a knife in a gun fight.
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/26/2007 10:05:34 AM
|
|
|
Khardysius
Posts: 558
Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: offline
|
If we use the 0-60 times for comparison, your top 6 sedans include: '09 Cadillac CTS-V (4.0 secs) '08 Mercedes CL65 AMG (4.0 secs) '07 Mercedes S65 AMG (4.1 secs) '08 Audi RS6 (4.2 secs) '07 Mercedes E63 AMG (4.2 secs) '07 BMW M5 (4.4 secs) Granted, there are other variables to consider...weight of car, overall weight with driver and passengers, driver's ability, traffic, etc, etc that should be considered, but because I don't have time to type up a full review consisting of several pages we'll limit ourselves to 0-60 times for sedans. I don't really have the brain power to do that right now either. This is the part of the night that all the blood has left my brain and gone to my stomach to digest my dinner! adlkfhea - oops, my head hit the keyboard!
_____________________________
2002 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro || Koni Shocks || Eibach Springs || Hotchkis Sways 255/17ZR40 ContiExtremeContact || Hawk HPS Pads || Goodridge Lines
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/26/2007 10:38:53 AM
|
|
|
reaper
Posts: 88
Joined: 12/15/2006 Status: offline
|
You guys are having too much fun with this. Just for arguements sake, look at the link you just posted. It's messed up. It lists the new RS5 as a turbo V8, it's an N/A V10. It lists the RS4 as a turbo V8, it's N/A, amongst numerous other errors in there. How credible can these people be if they don't even know what they are driving?' I agree about the AMG vs. S/RS comparison. Audi has yet to take the leap into supercar territory. The R8 is the first of many to come I think. They are investing 12.5 billion in their product over the next 5 years. I think you will find a lot of fun new cars coming. Now if you want to be the big guy on the block, go buy a mercedes SLR. Unfortunately for you, I'll still beat the crap out of you on my rice rocket all day. :) Power wars are fun, and certainly expensive. But eventually you will find that what you are getting for the money becomes more important than the "I have 20 more ponies than you" statement. If horsepower is your crutch, get a Veyron.
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/26/2007 1:02:13 PM
|
|
|
Batteries
Posts: 144
Joined: 5/1/2007 Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Khardysius If we use the 0-60 times for comparison, your top 6 sedans include: '09 Cadillac CTS-V (4.0 secs) '08 Mercedes CL65 AMG (4.0 secs) '07 Mercedes S65 AMG (4.1 secs) The S65 is a much bigger (and much more exclusive AND much more comfortable) sedan than the CTS-V ever will be. It achieves 738 foot pounds of torque at 2,000 RPM. That's more torque than any Ford, Dodge or Chevy diesel on the market. While the CTS-V looks very promising, the S65 is in a complete league of its own and dare I say it, but with the Biturbo V12 in the S65/CL65 you're just minor tweaks away from getting even more ridiculous power numbers. (as if 604 horsepower wasn't ridiculous enough) I'm not arguing or anything, since after all your post was about pure 0-60, not exclusivity. Just saying that in the ultra-high end segment, AMG has reigned for quite some time and will continue to do so. quote:
ORIGINAL: reaper Unfortunately for you, I'll still beat the crap out of you on my rice rocket all day. :) Heh heh. There are 900-1000 horsepower Supras and Ford GTs out there that would love to challenge your claim. Unless you're riding a Hayabusa, many of the ultra tuned Supra/Terminator Cobra/Z06 guys simply *love* picking off unsuspecting 600cc riders. :)
< Message edited by Batteries -- 10/26/2007 1:14:35 PM >
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/26/2007 4:40:55 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
Ya, someone I know has both an SL65 and an S65 that are heavily modified, ridiculous. We'll see what I do, closing on a new house this week or next so if I decide on something new I've got a month or two till I do it. Although I may just be calling in on an RS6 and see what they know. :-) TY for all your info. Also, rice rockets.... LOL. Ya they're fast, and you can pull slutty chicks on em, but, I'd rather just be comfortable. Owned a 999 for a lil while, it was fun. Ive grown outta that though.
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/27/2007 9:50:40 AM
|
|
|
reaper
Posts: 88
Joined: 12/15/2006 Status: offline
|
quote:
Heh heh. There are 900-1000 horsepower Supras and Ford GTs out there that would love to challenge your claim. Unless you're riding a Hayabusa, many of the ultra tuned Supra/Terminator Cobra/Z06 guys simply *love* picking off unsuspecting 600cc riders. :) Well lucky for me I'm running a highly modded 1000cc race bike then. I have never had a challenge (within a few car lengths even) by anything with more than two wheels up to 200mph. I cut it out there because lets face it, theres no point. I decided a while ago that super high power numbers in cars was a rediculous waste of money. Here's my story: So I wanted a Termi Cobra, blue, and wanted to bolt on a kenne belle. I was no-where near affording that as I was still in college, so I did some reasearch. It led me to a 1994 Lincoln Mark VIII. Odd I know, but it was loaded with the same 32 valve 4.6L V8 that came in the cobra's. The differences were plenty,... heavier car, luxury ride, no manual transmission option, and most importantly NO forged bottom end. This is to go along with the multitude of other things (fueling system, intake and exhaust tracks, etc.). However, I picked it up for $4000. It quickly became my engineering project, and the car slowly came to life. By the end it had: Full Forged and balanced motor, Kenne Belle Blower (21 PSI), Fully Built Track Prepped Transmission with 3200 RPM stall convertor, 150hp wet nitrous kit, cobra rear end with 4.10 gears, long tube headers, full stainless custom cat back with magnaflow straight through muffs, and a world class sound system with front staging by focal Audio and bass provided by JL. Full Nav, rear camera, you name it built in. The car was running 550hp on 93 octane pump fuel, and low low 12's in the quarter. With 4400 lbs. of car and a full working air ride suspension (with 20" chrome wheels no less). with spray and some slicks, I think 10's may have been feasible. THAT was a fast car, on a budget. I spent right around $20,000 to do everything across the 4 years I was in school, and I kicked the crap out of most cobra's, vette's, etc. that I came across. Now for the bad part,... 3 days prior to my heading home with all my belongings packed in the car (driving it from Florida to Mass) after moving out of my apartment. There was a rainy evening. I was heading to get food when a girl in a jeep cherokee cut across 3 lanes of traffic, and smashed up my front end. I T-boned her as she crossed my path, and I watched the front end of my car practical get removed. EVERYTHING I owned at school was in that car with me. The car was totalled by the insurance company, and I had to spend 2 weeks on friends couches with nothing but an overnight bag. To make matters worse, the car hadn't yet been inspected following all the work for insurance adjustments. I was given $4000 for the car, and was told I could remove anything I wanted as long as the car would roll, and the engine could start. I had to fly home, and paid $400 in extra bags to bring my belonging (alot was still left behind). I made it out with maybe $8000 total between the sale of the parts and the car. Not a great return on the investment. Now I buy $10,000 motorcycles that go INSANELY fast out of the box, and put a few mods on them to make them rediculous. I drive my Audi year round in poor weather, and I have just begun modding that slowly. I plan to keep the A6 I have for 10 years, and I am putting money into it MUCH slower, and making sure I am covered the whole way. I've lost my passion for the extreme speed and horsepower now, atleast until I can afford the car it truly belongs in.
_____________________________
Light a fire for a man and he will be warm for a night, light a man ON fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life! The number one rule of tinkering is keeping all the parts!
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/27/2007 11:52:52 AM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
That sucks man. Ya, there are a few kids on rice rockets around here who think they are the shiznit but they can only ride a few months a year here, we'll have snow off and on with heavy ice from november till may, some years till july. That and with some of the super blind canyons they love riding, although those canyons are also heavy trucking routes, its not uncommon to have a canyon closed while they clean a kid off the front of a semi. Its the reason my wife won't let me ride anymore, that and my newborn son. :-)
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/27/2007 1:48:29 PM
|
|
|
Khardysius
Posts: 558
Joined: 12/25/2006 Status: offline
|
After reviewing some of these posts I have a few things to say. Wow! The tangents and strange comparisons of "apples vs. oranges!" I try my best to stay on topic and make sure I produce the best information I have, so that we are all a little bit smarter, or more educated, than we were before we started. reaper - You're quite proud of your bicycle, otherwise it would not have even been brought up. Sadly, it has nothing to do with the original topic. For the sake of "argument" we should all keep in mind that, even before the computer and the internet were around, man has been imperfect. I bring this up because the link in my previous post led to a webpage with inaccurate information. I apologize for not scrubbing through the database prior to using it for a reference. Can you apologize for not reviewing your post for accuracy? Supercar shmupercar! When is Audi going to leap into the supercar territory? Oh, they did on July 24th, 1998? Hmm, but what supercar company? This link is credible! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/138623.stm Batteries - Since we aren't arguing, I'm sure you can appreciate, based on perfomance, that the extra money for purchasing a CTS-V could be put toward some heavy modding. This could include, and is not limited to, a fully blue-printed rebuild involving a forced induction setup. If you're lucky, when it is all said and done you'll have enough left over to buy a spaceship! kouper - Ultimately, this is your decision. It seems that you really want to RS6, but are just being a little impatient about it. I say get this house thing taken care of and pick up an RS6 as soon as you can! As for the 4.2L that this thread was originally started for, I think it is a strong, reliable motor that will last for a long time. It has a lot of potential, too bad the market just isn't there. Good luck to you all in everything that you do!
< Message edited by Khardysius -- 10/27/2007 1:50:23 PM >
_____________________________
2002 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro || Koni Shocks || Eibach Springs || Hotchkis Sways 255/17ZR40 ContiExtremeContact || Hawk HPS Pads || Goodridge Lines
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/27/2007 2:27:06 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
Thank you, and you have been pretty good for not getting upset that I would ever (AAAHH) consider an AMG/BMW I think I am just being impatient. And the fact taht my F350 powerstroke was faster (freeway wise and straight excelleration) via aftermarket just makes me sad we don't have a good aftermarket for these cars without waiting for them to be a few years outdated first.
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/27/2007 10:34:58 PM
|
|
|
Batteries
Posts: 144
Joined: 5/1/2007 Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Khardysius Batteries - Since we aren't arguing, I'm sure you can appreciate, based on perfomance, that the extra money for purchasing a CTS-V could be put toward some heavy modding. This could include, and is not limited to, a fully blue-printed rebuild involving a forced induction setup. If you're lucky, when it is all said and done you'll have enough left over to buy a spaceship! As for the 4.2L that this thread was originally started for, I think it is a strong, reliable motor that will last for a long time. It has a lot of potential, too bad the market just isn't there. You're right about the CTS-V and how you could put plenty of money on the table to modify that wonderful engine, I was just stating that with the S65/CL65 V-12s, you're already in the forced induction game with twin turbos. And I guess at that point, the refinement, prestige and absolute perfection that is the S65 would be the drawing factor. I mean, personally, I have this feeling that the market will always see the ultra-high end Mercedes as the car that wealthy businessmen drive or have their driver's chaffeur them in. I don't think that Cadillac will ever achieve that status with the CTS-V series, which is much more hard edged. To be completely honest, the S65 can only be compared to Rolls Royces and Bentleys, both of which it dominates handily in the power and acceleration departments, so there really is no comparison point for it. You can see I'm a big fan. Hehe. It's a sad fact that most of the European performance cars have a limited aftermarket, and when it does show up, it's years later and incredibly expensive. I never understood that correlation. I know that we drive expensive european cars, but there is no need for aftermarket, non Audi factory related parts to be as expensive as they are. Performance upgrades for domestic and japanese models are hundreds of dollars cheaper in most cases, and arrive as soon as that model hits the market. Not so for the European brands unfortunately. So, the 4.2 does have alot of potential, and I think MTM does have a supercharger for 4.2 S4s, but it's too little gain for too much money, which is why it's not really "worth it" (even if you have excess money) to buy an S4 and then get a supercharger for it, because that only puts you at 450 horsepower. Ofcourse, in the real world that's a very impressive amount of power, but in the performance world, it's not. Not anymore atleast, when factory hot rods like the E55 AMG (469 horsepower stock) and the BMW M5 (500 horsepower stock) came out a few years ago. Even the RS4 is a "bad value" in a sense putting out 414 horsepower. The RS4 gets left in the dust by a stock E55 AMG that is a few years old, while the RS4 is almost brand new. So, as you can see, from my first post defending the RS6, I have done an almost complete 180 and declared that Audi really hasn't been on the ball lately. Haha. It is true, though. Even *dare I say it* the R8 is a little underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, it looks spectacular, but with the current 4.2 V8 (Audi really loves that 4.2 lately, don't they? Come up with something bigger Audi!!) it's not really as fast as I'd like. I hear that they are working on it, though, so we shall see. I hope Audi gets a little more "ballsy" with their engine offerings, as the 4.2 is a fantastic engine, it's just a bit underpowered to go up against the big guns from BMW, Mercedes, and lately *gasp* Cadillac. Phew, long post!
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/28/2007 11:42:56 AM
|
|
|
ppgoal
Posts: 701
Joined: 9/8/2006 From: Holland MI Status: offline
|
I only wish I had the kind of money you guys did (or your daddies) to throw around on cars. But with one kid in college and two to go, it ain't happening. I'm happy with my A6 as it is - a great combination of reasonable speed, comfort, and looks. Are there faster rides out there...bunches. But I don't have $100k plus in my A6. When I hit the lottery, there'd be a Viper R/T in my garage. 600hp out of the box and the fastest production car under $100k. And if money were no object, one of those Bentleys. They do 200mph and have every creature comfort plus great looks. It's so nice to dream.
_____________________________
2003 Audi A6 2.7T MT6 Premium Package-Cold Weather Package-Bose GIAC-Bailey DVs-Samco TBB AWE Stage 2 Clutch+Lightweight Flywheel 235/45 R17 Pirelli P6 All-season; OEMs 235/40 ZR18 ContiExtremeContact; Velocity RS4 Replica Rims
|
|
|
|
RE: A6 4.2 aftermarket - 10/28/2007 12:54:09 PM
|
|
|
kouper
Posts: 24
Joined: 10/23/2007 Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: ppgoal I only wish I had the kind of money you guys did (or your daddies) to throw around on cars. But with one kid in college and two to go, it ain't happening. I'm happy with my A6 as it is - a great combination of reasonable speed, comfort, and looks. Are there faster rides out there...bunches. But I don't have $100k plus in my A6. When I hit the lottery, there'd be a Viper R/T in my garage. 600hp out of the box and the fastest production car under $100k. And if money were no object, one of those Bentleys. They do 200mph and have every creature comfort plus great looks. It's so nice to dream. My pops bought my first car, a 1970 mustang 2v 302 convertible, when I was 16. Since then I have paid for every vehicle I've owned. Eh, its just wierd because BMW has an aftermarket on the 3 series the day it comes out, the 5/6/7 and X within a year of a model update. Mercedes has renntech/brabus/custom super tuners like bruce canapa the day they leave the factory. And Audi has..... well our 2.0T has a good aftermarket but that has more to do with sharing the engine with VW then anything else. Audi right now is floating inbetween being "affordable" like the japanese cars, and "Super prestigous" like BMW and Mercedes. I still love mine though, wish the RS6 would come out sooner.
|
|
|
|
Today's Posts
Most Active Topics
Make A Donation
Forum Rules & FAQ
 | |