View Full Version : interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or older 6spd


pyrex
10-31-2007, 08:19 AM
I am in a bit of a conundrum in deciding which car I think would be a better choice in terms of value and driving performance. The s-line, while albeit slower acceleration because of the auto, has 15 more horsepower, and is also 3 - 4 years newer than the 6-speeds that I am finding around here in Texas.
Is getting a 6 speed that much more fun to drive with, that it would be worth getting a car that is 3 years older, and still the same price (similar mileage too)?
Does the '04 s-line have anything over the 2000-01 6spd, such as better suspension, etc?
Also in terms of performance, If I were to add a giac chip to the car I choose, would the acceleration gain from the extra horsepower and torque be higher on the manual, or equal to an auto?

Tha H.N.I.C
10-31-2007, 10:14 AM
Just because i have one, i would get the S-Line. Another reason why i would get the 2004 S-Line over the 2000 2.7 is because why would you want to but a car thats going to be 7-8 years old?

alias747
10-31-2007, 02:37 PM
If you want to have fun driving your car, you are going to kick yourself in the butt if you buy a tip. S-lines are only tip.

As for acceleration, you are DEF going to be able to accelerate faster with a stick. Chip or no chip.

techbod
10-31-2007, 02:44 PM
silly question really,
whats worth more a classic or a new set of wheels and how do you define "new", give me the classic 24/7 personal choice only of course;)

Tha Abbot
10-31-2007, 02:46 PM
The acceleration is not slower, if so not by that much. If you chip a S-Line, you will still have 15 more HP and more torque then a regular A6, manual or auto. The S-Line was only built in 2004, so you get rarity with the S-Line. You get the RS 4 rim and RS 6 spoiler that everybody wants with the S-Line. If the price and miles are the same, why not get a newer car, for get the fun factor, look at the value.

Tha Abbot
10-31-2007, 02:50 PM
ORIGINAL: techbod

silly question really,
whats worth more a classic or a new set of wheels and how do you define "new", give me the classic 24/7 personal choice only of course;)



LOL, Yea, but the car is not 20 years old LOL

Tha H.N.I.C
10-31-2007, 04:26 PM
ORIGINAL: techbod

silly question really,
whats worth more a classic or a new set of wheels and how do you define "new", give me the classic 24/7 personal choice only of course;)


LOL......Now this is funny. There's is nothing "classic" about an A6

bdmstang
10-31-2007, 06:20 PM
I just posted my 04 A6 2.7T 6MT for sale for probably about the same as you'd spend on a S-Line. I live in KC...8 hours from Dallas, not sure where in TX you're from. 26k miles, all options including sport seats, but no nav or rear parktronic. It's listed in the sale section if you're interested.

Nocturnal_A62.7
11-01-2007, 12:05 AM
Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.

Tha Abbot
11-01-2007, 10:33 AM
ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.


Second, third, and fourth that.

Tha H.N.I.C
11-01-2007, 10:36 AM
I love my S-Line. I was never that big on the A6, until the S-Line came out. To me, it looks nothing like the regular A6. Like Tha Abbot said, with the S-Line, you get all of the things that everyone wants....like the rims and the spoiler.....and you can see the exhaust pipes without having to change the bumper.

Like i said before, why would you want to buy a 7-8 year old car anyway?

I live in MD and I got my S-Line used in VA for 20K with 50K miles on it.

pyrex
11-01-2007, 03:07 PM
ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot

The acceleration is not slower, if so not by that much. If you chip a S-Line, you will still have 15 more HP and more torque then a regular A6, manual or auto. The S-Line was only built in 2004, so you get rarity with the S-Line. You get the RS 4 rim and RS 6 spoiler that everybody wants with the S-Line. If the price and miles are the same, why not get a newer car, for get the fun factor, look at the value.


Thanks everyone for all your input, getting a car that is half as old is probably a better idea, even if it does have the same amount miles. The s-line does seem like the solid choice for what seems like an extra 2 grand because of all the body features, better brakes + suspension. The better suspension should definitely make up in handling for what it lacks in a slightly lower acceleration and all the other goodness that comes with having a manual, including the aggravation of driving in traffic. Also on average, how many miles can the engine in an s-line handle before it really needs to be replaced with an entirely new car, I heard turbos start wearing out around 100k; is that also around when you need a whole new engine? Would it be worth getting a non-turbo (such as the 3.0 or 4.2) for longevity purposes if I planned on having this car for more than 5 years?

When my saab 9-3 ('05 aero) lease is returned to the shop I will start looking around more for a good deal.

Tha Abbot
11-01-2007, 04:19 PM
I like the Saab 9-3's...and you have the aero too. The aero is in the same boat as the S-line, compaired to and regular 9-3. Far as the turbo's going up, if you beat up the car thenthe turbo's will go up, thats kinda all I have to say about that. Everybody say that the turbo's will fail, but ask them how do they drive?

Tha Abbot
11-01-2007, 04:44 PM
Take a look at this, just a lil more information about the S-Line.

http://www.carpages.ca/go/roadtest/2004_audi_a6_27t_sline_quattro.aspx

daroshi
11-01-2007, 04:56 PM
ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.


All 2.7T's , S-line or not, use the 321mm front rotors. 2000-2001 have the 4-piston HP2 calipers (same asthe 2000-2002 S4). 2002 thru 2004 use a single piston ATE caliper. The suspension is merely the same sport suspension available on earlier models. If you check the Audi model specs for 2004 A6 from this page http://www.audiworld.com/model/you will see in the back that the "S-line" is merely a trim package. Most of the goodies including the true sport seats were an option even on the S-line.If you plan to chip it and add aftermarket suspension, the only thing left from the S-line is the $200 spoiler... bdmstang's 2004 6MT is a great deal...just add an RS6 spoiler http://www.audiforums.com/m_686957/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#686957

Tha Abbot
11-01-2007, 05:15 PM
ORIGINAL: daroshi

ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.


All 2.7T's , S-line or not, use the 321mm front rotors. 2000-2001 have the 4-piston HP2 calipers (same asthe 2000-2002 S4). 2002 thru 2004 use a single piston ATE caliper. The suspension is merely the same sport suspension available on earlier models. If you check the Audi model specs for 2004 A6 from this page http://www.audiworld.com/model/you will see in the back that the "S-line" is merely a trim package. Most of the goodies including the true sport seats were an option even on the S-line.If you plan to chip it and add aftermarket suspension, the only thing left from the S-line is the $200 spoiler... bdmstang's 2004 6MT is a great deal...just add an RS6 spoiler http://www.audiforums.com/m_686957/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#686957


Why add a spoiler when you can buy a car with one installed already. http://www.giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=12here the chip for the S-Line, so you will keep your 15 extra hp. Trim level or not, out of the 2.7T's the S-Line is the top of the line. I dont know about anyone else, but when I by a car, I want the best that model has to offer.

Four Ring Circus
11-01-2007, 06:14 PM
ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot

Why add a spoiler when you can buy a car with one installed already. http://www.giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=12here the chip for the S-Line, so you will keep your 15 extra hp. Trim level or not, out of the 2.7T's the S-Line is the top of the line. I dont know about anyone else, but when I by a car, I want the best that model has to offer.


I think the point some are making here, myself included, is that the S-line package does not necessarily add enough to claim top of the line. I would much rather have my 6 speed than the 15 hp, spoiler nub, and s-line emblems. The S-line is a nice car for sure though. Definitely the way to go with the tip.

Nocturnal_A62.7
11-01-2007, 09:15 PM
Wow, you magically resolved "The Great S-Line Problem" with $200 spoiler. I am sure people who paid premium were not stupid when they bought the S-line, after paying few more thousands bucks. If you think that the S-line is just spoiler and badge, then that all right. However, people here understands more that that.

alias747
11-01-2007, 10:53 PM
I would much rather have my 6 speed than the 15 hp, spoiler nub, and s-line emblems.

AMEN

Wow, you magically resolved "The Great S-Line Problem" with $200 spoiler. I am sure people who paid premium were not stupid when they bought the S-line, after paying few more thousands bucks. If you think that the S-line is just spoiler and badge, then that all right. However, people here understands more that that.

Huh?

It's been said in these forums a million times, all the S-line is, is a glorifed "sport" package A6. It's a trim level.

Nocturnal_A62.7
11-02-2007, 01:04 AM
All right 747, whats your point. My point is that unlike another gentleman on this board, I believe that there is more to S-line than just a spoiler. Abbott, correct me if I am wrong.

alias747
11-02-2007, 10:23 AM
Lol did you even read this thread? Go up a couple posts and read daroshi's post. He pretty much spelled it out for you guys... LMAO

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 10:42 AM
After reading what everyone is saying, it seems to me that if you don’t have an S-Line, then you are a “S-Line hater” because you don’t have one and the only claim that the guys can make for why they don’t like/wouldn’t buy/ or don’t want one is because it’s a tip instead of a “true” 5 or 6 speed.

Lol….it cracks me up when people say that they could care less about the 15 extra hp, lol……but you guys TRY to add the 15 more hp with all of that bolt on crap. you even try to add the spoiler to make it look likethe S-Line.

Out of all of the 2.7’s, the S-Line is the top of the line and it’s “the classic”. 2004 was the last year body style for the A6, and they ended it BIG with the S-Line. I mean look at the car. Despite you the guys who don’t have one thinks, it looks just like the RS6. The S-Line is the lil brother of the RS6.

If you can’t afford the RS6, but you like the RS6 look (which most, if not all of us do), that’s reason enuff to buy a S-Line.

Tha Abbot
11-02-2007, 11:16 AM
ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C

After reading what everyone is saying, it seems to me that if you don’t have an S-Line, then you are a “S-Line hater” because you don’t have one and the only claim that the guys can make for why they don’t like/wouldn’t buy/ or don’t want one is because it’s a tip instead of a “true” 5 or 6 speed.

Lol….it cracks me up when people say that they could care less about the 15 extra hp, lol……but you guys TRY to add the 15 more hp with all of that bolt on crap. you even try to add the spoiler to make it look likethe S-Line.

Out of all of the 2.7’s, the S-Line is the top of the line and it’s “the classic”. 2004 was the last year body style for the A6, and they ended it BIG with the S-Line. I mean look at the car. Despite you the guys who don’t have one thinks, it looks just like the RS6. The S-Line is the lil brother of the RS6.

If you can’t afford the RS6, but you like the RS6 look (which most, if not all of us do), that’s reason enuff to buy a S-Line.




GOOTTT DAYUM LOL,Nocturnal,Tha H.N.I.C., and myself know what we got, and it's not just a trim level.In life people hate on what they don't have, this is just another example!!

I drive insport mode all the time, when I hit the gas hard, I can get it to redline easily, under normal driving, the gears change at 4000 RPM's, higher ifI'm ballin'....the same as the 6 speed.

If you have a 6 speed, go test drive a S-Line, then make a comment.

alias747
11-02-2007, 11:30 AM
I am not by any means a S-line hater. What I hate is people who own S-lines and act like they have this VASTLY SUPERIOR car compared to ours. Such as this line of greatness:

I pull up to the club in a S-Line with my girl, you pull up in a 2.7 with your girl, you're like "Dawg, what's the difference between the 2.7 and the S-Line", I'm like 5-6 gran cock sucker beat it!

I wish I could own a S-line just so I could say that to people who own a plain old A6. :eek: Give me a break.

You like your car, thats great. I love my car, thats great too. And the fact that I mod my car with all that "bolt on crap" has nothing to do with me wanting to be like an S-line lol, its called tuning and wrenching on my car. It's fun and is going to give me far more than 15 whole whopping HP you got from the factory... ROFL.

So as you say, if all of us that have "regular" A6's that add spoilers are posing to look like we have an S-line, aren't you posing to look like you have a RS6?

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 12:00 PM
ORIGINAL: alias747

I am not by any means a S-line hater. What I hate is people who own S-lines and act like they have this VASTLY SUPERIOR car compared to ours. Such as this line of greatness:

I pull up to the club in a S-Line with my girl, you pull up in a 2.7 with your girl, you're like "Dawg, what's the difference between the 2.7 and the S-Line", I'm like 5-6 gran cock sucker beat it!

I wish I could own a S-line just so I could say that to people who own a plain old A6. :eek: Give me a break.

You like your car, thats great. I love my car, thats great too. And the fact that I mod my car with all that "bolt on crap" has nothing to do with me wanting to be like an S-line lol, its called tuning and wrenching on my car. It's fun and is going to give me far more than 15 whole whopping HP you got from the factory... ROFL.

So as you say, if all of us that have "regular" A6's that add spoilers are posing to look like we have an S-line, aren't you posing to look like you have a RS6?


To answer your question, no I’m not posing to have a RS6 because my car came with the stuff….or should I say, “The Trim Level”, so you lose that battle…point blank.

The S-Line is vastly superior because I could put the same bolt on crap as you that you have on your car and I would still have a whopping 15 extra hp then yours.

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 12:01 PM
ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C

ORIGINAL: alias747

I am not by any means a S-line hater. What I hate is people who own S-lines and act like they have this VASTLY SUPERIOR car compared to ours. Such as this line of greatness:

I pull up to the club in a S-Line with my girl, you pull up in a 2.7 with your girl, you're like "Dawg, what's the difference between the 2.7 and the S-Line", I'm like 5-6 gran cock sucker beat it!

I wish I could own a S-line just so I could say that to people who own a plain old A6. :eek: Give me a break.

You like your car, thats great. I love my car, thats great too. And the fact that I mod my car with all that "bolt on crap" has nothing to do with me wanting to be like an S-line lol, its called tuning and wrenching on my car. It's fun and is going to give me far more than 15 whole whopping HP you got from the factory... ROFL.

So as you say, if all of us that have "regular" A6's that add spoilers are posing to look like we have an S-line, aren't you posing to look like you have a RS6?


To answer your question, no I’m not posing to have a RS6 because my car came with the stuff….or should I say, “The Trim Level”, so you lose that battle…point blank.

The S-Line is vastly superior because I could put the same bolt on crap asthat you have on your car and I would still have a whopping 15 extra hp then yours.

alias747
11-02-2007, 12:42 PM
The S-Line is vastly superior because I could put the same bolt on crap as you that you have on your car and I would still have a whopping 15 extra hp then yours.

... And still have a half second slower 0-60 time becuase you have a slushbox... What was that?

And I am pretty sure that people were putting lip spoilers on their A6s way before the S-line was even released. So who was copying who?

I am done arguing, peace.

Tha Abbot
11-02-2007, 12:45 PM
ORIGINAL: alias747

I am not by any means a S-line hater. What I hate is people who own S-lines and act like they have this VASTLY SUPERIOR car compared to ours. Such as this line of greatness:

I pull up to the club in a S-Line with my girl, you pull up in a 2.7 with your girl, you're like "Dawg, what's the difference between the 2.7 and the S-Line", I'm like 5-6 gran cock sucker beat it!

I wish I could own a S-line just so I could say that to people who own a plain old A6. :eek: Give me a break.

You like your car, thats great. I love my car, thats great too. And the fact that I mod my car with all that "bolt on crap" has nothing to do with me wanting to be like an S-line lol, its called tuning and wrenching on my car. It's fun and is going to give me far more than 15 whole whopping HP you got from the factory... ROFL.

So as you say, if all of us that have "regular" A6's that add spoilers are posing to look like we have an S-line, aren't you posing to look like you have a RS6?


Your funny,quoting my signature. Let me explain it to you....it means....get you paper up!!!

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 01:15 PM
ORIGINAL: alias747

The S-Line is vastly superior because I could put the same bolt on crap as you that you have on your car and I would still have a whopping 15 extra hp then yours.

... And still have a half second slower 0-60 time becuase you have a slushbox... What was that?

And I am pretty sure that people were putting lip spoilers on their A6s way before the S-line was even released. So who was copying who?

I am done arguing, peace.



yeah you should quit because you are running out of ammo.

Tha Abbot
11-02-2007, 02:03 PM
ORIGINAL: alias747

The S-Line is vastly superior because I could put the same bolt on crap as you that you have on your car and I would still have a whopping 15 extra hp then yours.

... And still have a half second slower 0-60 time becuase you have a slushbox... What was that?

And I am pretty sure that people were putting lip spoilers on their A6s way before the S-line was even released. So who was copying who?

I am done arguing, peace.



" Half a second slower 0-60 time because of a TIP" LOL, halfa second is nothing, thats like a blink of an eye. Your words are just words without evidence. Let me point this out to you, the extra 15hp makes up for the LOL "Half a second" which makes the S-Line the same, if not faster then a 6 speed. Show me some evidence that the S-Line is slower.

alias747
11-02-2007, 02:15 PM
PERFORMANCE:
Manual Automatic
0-50 mph (0-80km/h) 4.7 sec. 4.9 sec.
0-60 mph (0-100 km/h) 6.0 sec. 6.6 sec.
1/4 mile 14.7 sec. 15.1 sec.

Straight from Audi documentation from Audiworld for the 2004 2.7T.

And your own link about the S-line says its 6.4 secs.

So... half a second. Proof...

And yes, half a second faster 0-60 time is big. Ask anyone who actually tunes and mods cars.

Nocturnal_A62.7
11-02-2007, 02:16 PM
What ticked me off was when Four Ring Circus (http://www.audiforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=31600), said that there is nothing much to S-line, than a spoiler and badge. I mean, how ignorant can you be?

I don't meant to look down at guys here who don't have S-line. But, I, along with others are making a point that there is more than a spoiler that makes S-line, ...ah let's say S-line.

Abbott, where are you in Maryland?. I am in Gaithersburg. Let's try to get all Audi enthus of Maryland together and take our rides out, just like HOG (Harley Owners Group)!

Tha Abbot
11-02-2007, 03:42 PM
ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

What ticked me off was when Four Ring Circus (http://www.audiforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=31600), said that there is nothing much to S-line, than a spoiler and badge. I mean, how ignorant can you be?

I don't meant to look down at guys here who don't have S-line. But, I, along with others are making a point that there is more than a spoiler that makes S-line, ...ah let's say S-line.

Abbott, where are you in Maryland?. I am in Gaithersburg. Let's try to get all Audi enthus of Maryland together and take our rides out, just like HOG (Harley Owners Group)!








Thats the point I was trying to make. The 15 extra hp makes the S-Line, along with other things. I dont tune my car so I could care less which one is faster. Nocturnal, I live in Baltimore

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 03:47 PM
ORIGINAL: alias747

PERFORMANCE:
Manual Automatic
0-50 mph (0-80km/h) 4.7 sec. 4.9 sec.
0-60 mph (0-100 km/h) 6.0 sec. 6.6 sec.
1/4 mile 14.7 sec. 15.1 sec.

Straight from Audi documentation from Audiworld for the 2004 2.7T.

And your own link about the S-line says its 6.4 secs.

So... half a second. Proof...

And yes, half a second faster 0-60 time is big. Ask anyone who actually tunes and mods cars.




Read this........Str8 from motor week. if you read the 3rd pharagraph, it even says that they test drove the 6-speed.

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1848.shtml

let see the website where you got your info from and please, no typed info.

techbod
11-02-2007, 03:52 PM
not really interested in the secs but a classic is worth a look

alias747
11-02-2007, 04:02 PM
Like I said, on Audiworld, documentation straight from Audi.

http://www.audiworld.com/model/a6/04/04a62_7t.pdf

And about the S-line, the link abbot already posted.

http://www.carpages.ca/go/roadtest/2004_audi_a6_27t_sline_quattro.aspx

There: PROOF, becuase apparently you think I make this sh*t up... :eek:

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 04:15 PM
ORIGINAL: alias747

Like I said, on Audiworld, documentation straight from Audi.

http://www.audiworld.com/model/a6/04/04a62_7t.pdf

And about the S-line, the link abbot already posted.

http://www.carpages.ca/go/roadtest/2004_audi_a6_27t_sline_quattro.aspx

There: PROOF, becuase apparently you think I make this sh*t up... :eek:



let me rephase it.....LET'S SEE TEST DRIVE SPEC'S. NOT A PDF. LETS SEE SPEC'S FROM SOMEWHERE OTHER THEN ANOTHER AUDI FORUM WEBSITE.....YA KNOW.....LIKE I DID. SOMETHING LIKE ROAD & TRACK

Tha Abbot
11-02-2007, 04:26 PM
That PDF dont prove anything, everybody knows that car companys pump up there spec to sell the car, look at the RX-8.

Like I said, I dont care which one is faster, I dont tune my car, it gets me from point A-B. I just think the S-Line looks nicer and dude should get the S-Line over a older A6, or any A6 if it's not a S-Line....yup, I said it.

Nocturnal_A62.7
11-02-2007, 05:16 PM
You know, some guy here can prove that 747 is bigger than 380! I don't care, just don't tell me that S-line is just a spoiler and a badge.

xb70valkarye
11-02-2007, 05:49 PM
People! We all love our Audis (hopefully) and we are here to help each other. Lets not hate.

Once you get beyond the generic transport modules a good car has a lot to do with how it make you feel. Even though the tip is not a good example many "auto" gearboxes will perform better than most drivers can on their best day. I have a 6 speed manual but until I can figure out that perfect launch my chances of beating a tip sits with the Playboy bunnies who all want to share my bed with me. But it is the feeling I get when i shift gears myself, no computer telling me when to shift (and it does even in manual mode on the tip), holding whichever gear I want while going straight to it, knowing when I make a mistake, gets me feeling much more part of the car. Despite amazing autos these days cars like the RS4, M5, M6 etc still come with a manual option.

The fact is, as stated before, that a 6 speed with the sport package (seats, suspension etc) is essentially mechanically identical to a S-line and in the hands of the right driver it is faster. But it all comes down to how you feel. The S-line is a trim package. Some may put the S-line package in the same category as 22s with low profiles on a Hummer or a wad of tiolet paper in your shorts to make you look bigger but if it makes you feel good that is all that counts.

Drive both and decide. For me it is the 6 speed with the sport package all the way. Do tell us what you decide.

bdmstang
11-02-2007, 05:58 PM
ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot

ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C

After reading what everyone is saying, it seems to me that if you don’t have an S-Line, then you are a “S-Line hater” because you don’t have one and the only claim that the guys can make for why they don’t like/wouldn’t buy/ or don’t want one is because it’s a tip instead of a “true” 5 or 6 speed.

Lol….it cracks me up when people say that they could care less about the 15 extra hp, lol……but you guys TRY to add the 15 more hp with all of that bolt on crap. you even try to add the spoiler to make it look likethe S-Line.

Out of all of the 2.7’s, the S-Line is the top of the line and it’s “the classic”. 2004 was the last year body style for the A6, and they ended it BIG with the S-Line. I mean look at the car. Despite you the guys who don’t have one thinks, it looks just like the RS6. The S-Line is the lil brother of the RS6.

If you can’t afford the RS6, but you like the RS6 look (which most, if not all of us do), that’s reason enuff to buy a S-Line.




GOOTTT DAYUM LOL,Nocturnal,Tha H.N.I.C., and myself know what we got, and it's not just a trim level.In life people hate on what they don't have, this is just another example!!

I drive insport mode all the time, when I hit the gas hard, I can get it to redline easily, under normal driving, the gears change at 4000 RPM's, higher ifI'm ballin'....the same as the 6 speed.

If you have a 6 speed, go test drive a S-Line, then make a comment.


I got to drive a S-Line from the dealer when I had the rear sunshade replaced. It was nice, but just like the other 2.7T's I drove with an auto. I did like the wheels and spoiler though.I don't see the S-Line being a "classic" car, however. Also, I don't think any A6 is top of the line unless it has sport seats instead of the flat seats.

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 06:03 PM
ORIGINAL: xb70valkarye

People! We all love our Audis (hopefully) and we are here to help each other. Lets not hate.

Once you get beyond the generic transport modules a good car has a lot to do with how it make you feel. Even though the tip is not a good example many "auto" gearboxes will perform better than most drivers can on their best day. I have a 6 speed manual but until I can figure out that perfect launch my chances of beating a tip sits with the Playboy bunnies who all want to share my bed with me. But it is the feeling I get when i shift gears myself, no computer telling me when to shift (and it does even in manual mode on the tip), holding whichever gear I want while going straight to it, knowing when I make a mistake, gets me feeling much more part of the car. Despite amazing autos these days cars like the RS4, M5, M6 etc still come with a manual option.

The fact is, as stated before, that a 6 speed with the sport package (seats, suspension etc) is essentially mechanically identical to a S-line and in the hands of the right driver it is faster. But it all comes down to how you feel. The S-line is a trim package. Some may put the S-line package in the same category as 22s with low profiles on a Hummer or a wad of tiolet paper in your shorts to make you look bigger but if it makes you feel good that is all that counts.

Drive both and decide. For me it is the 6 speed with the sport package all the way. Do tell us what you decide.





i like this dude

Tha H.N.I.C
11-02-2007, 06:06 PM
ORIGINAL: bdmstang

ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot

ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C

After reading what everyone is saying, it seems to me that if you don’t have an S-Line, then you are a “S-Line hater” because you don’t have one and the only claim that the guys can make for why they don’t like/wouldn’t buy/ or don’t want one is because it’s a tip instead of a “true” 5 or 6 speed.

Lol….it cracks me up when people say that they could care less about the 15 extra hp, lol……but you guys TRY to add the 15 more hp with all of that bolt on crap. you even try to add the spoiler to make it look likethe S-Line.

Out of all of the 2.7’s, the S-Line is the top of the line and it’s “the classic”. 2004 was the last year body style for the A6, and they ended it BIG with the S-Line. I mean look at the car. Despite you the guys who don’t have one thinks, it looks just like the RS6. The S-Line is the lil brother of the RS6.

If you can’t afford the RS6, but you like the RS6 look (which most, if not all of us do), that’s reason enuff to buy a S-Line.




GOOTTT DAYUM LOL,Nocturnal,Tha H.N.I.C., and myself know what we got, and it's not just a trim level.In life people hate on what they don't have, this is just another example!!

I drive insport mode all the time, when I hit the gas hard, I can get it to redline easily, under normal driving, the gears change at 4000 RPM's, higher ifI'm ballin'....the same as the 6 speed.

If you have a 6 speed, go test drive a S-Line, then make a comment.


I got to drive a S-Line from the dealer when I had the rear sunshade replaced. It was nice, but just like the other 2.7T's I drove with an auto. I did like the wheels and spoiler though.I don't see the S-Line being a "classic" car, however. Also, I don't think any A6 is top of the line unless it has sport seats instead of the flat seats.



i dont think any A6, other then the RS6, is a classic. i just said that because Techbod said that the regural A6 6-speed was a classic

formulagigi
11-02-2007, 07:08 PM
I really eprsonally don't care which I own as I enjoy customizing my ride anyway.... but Alias is correct the TIP is about 0.5 sec slower and that's a big difference for those who argue about 1/4 miles and 0-60 times, and obvisouly care enough about it. think 1/2 sec is about 3 cars lengths at 1/4 mile.
As For the person who said the S line looks like the RS6.. more than the regualr A6??? Spoiler aside....There are WAY more differences b/w the RS6 and the A6 SLine than b/w the A6 S and regualr A6! I personally can't care less which I own because the differences are so minimal I chose to buy the best A6 2.7 I could find on the used market.
One of my best friend owns the 04 A6 Sline and I own the mere 04 A6... ( and Ihave pics of our car to prove he and his car exists).Side by side... uh... no difference but the rear lip spoiler which I added for $300 and the rims, which becomes a matter of taste. Mine (BBS RC) were actually better being lighter and probably higher quality than the one that came on his Sline. Oh I forgot the unvaluable S Line badge... anyone can get for a few bucks...
Suspension:. SAME, feels, drives and looks the same (height) - Yes I drove his car, yes we parked them side by side to compare them...
Seats: SAME Exactly actually the whole interior is the Same! and no I do NOT have the sport package. His Sline and my A6 DO NOT have the sport seats, an option on both.
Engine: extra 15 HP advantage to theS line,WHICH by the way DOES NOT make up for the Slush box and the 1/2 second difference to 60. And honestly we could not tell the difference.
Again I don't care but I was able to compare these two cars in details and drive both... S Line IS NOT worht the price difference.
I would definitely pick a 6 Speed over a TIP regardless of trim. But it i's me... I miss the maual transmission and the slush box kills this car! But if I had to chose b/w a much older A6 6Spd and a newer in much better condition with warranty Sline TIP, I would pick the Sline or just wait to find a nice 6 Spd.

Nocturnal_A62.7
11-02-2007, 09:02 PM
Like this dude??? Hey, let it be the Audi forum, not gay forum! ;)

alias747
11-03-2007, 03:12 AM
ORIGINAL: formulagigi

I really eprsonally don't care which I own as I enjoy customizing my ride anyway.... but Alias is correct the TIP is about 0.5 sec slower and that's a big difference for those who argue about 1/4 miles and 0-60 times, and obvisouly care enough about it. think 1/2 sec is about 3 cars lengths at 1/4 mile.
As For the person who said the S line looks like the RS6.. more than the regualr A6??? Spoiler aside....There are WAY more differences b/w the RS6 and the A6 SLine than b/w the A6 S and regualr A6! I personally can't care less which I own because the differences are so minimal I chose to buy the best A6 2.7 I could find on the used market.
One of my best friend owns the 04 A6 Sline and I own the mere 04 A6... ( and Ihave pics of our car to prove he and his car exists).Side by side... uh... no difference but the rear lip spoiler which I added for $300 and the rims, which becomes a matter of taste. Mine (BBS RC) were actually better being lighter and probably higher quality than the one that came on his Sline. Oh I forgot the unvaluable S Line badge... anyone can get for a few bucks...
Suspension:. SAME, feels, drives and looks the same (height) - Yes I drove his car, yes we parked them side by side to compare them...
Seats: SAME Exactly actually the whole interior is the Same! and no I do NOT have the sport package. His Sline and my A6 DO NOT have the sport seats, an option on both.
Engine: extra 15 HP advantage to theS line,WHICH by the way DOES NOT make up for the Slush box and the 1/2 second difference to 60. And honestly we could not tell the difference.
Again I don't care but I was able to compare these two cars in details and drive both... S Line IS NOT worht the price difference.
I would definitely pick a 6 Speed over a TIP regardless of trim. But it i's me... I miss the maual transmission and the slush box kills this car! But if I had to chose b/w a much older A6 6Spd and a newer in much better condition with warranty Sline TIP, I would pick the Sline or just wait to find a nice 6 Spd.



PERFECT thread closer... Props for a valuable post as usual Gigi. ;) Maybe I am a little biased because it reinforces pretty much everything I have been saying this whole thread. Thanks. LOL :D

formulagigi
11-03-2007, 06:24 PM
ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

Like this dude??? Hey, let it be the Audi forum, not gay forum! ;)

Gay forum??? What/who are you referring to?

ppgoal
11-04-2007, 08:03 PM
That was a fun read. It's nice to see A6ers beating on each other instead of the lowly BMW drivers or some poor ricer.

For the record, I like the looks of the S-line and I like the looks of my plain-jane A6. I was lucky that the original owner had experience with an S4 and ordered most of the good options for me when he traded it for the A6. But the most important one was the MT6. I can't imagine having an automatic, even when I get stuck poking along in a traffic jam. The fun of shifting....actually driving....offsets a spoiler in my mind. And my A6 came with the sport suspension in 2003 as well as the exhausts thru the rear valence. I wish he had optioned the sport seats, tho.

+15 hp is nice, if tough to measure. If you want real power, stick in a chip for +70hp and consider K04s for serious performance. Don't need an S-line for either of those.

I would not add the spoiler so I look like a fake S-line. But, on the other hand, I bought RS4 replica wheels because I loved their look. After a wash and wax, I stand back and admire the lines of my A6. It's a great looking motor car in either configuration.

Four Ring Circus
11-07-2007, 11:29 PM
ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7

What ticked me off was when Four Ring Circus (http://www.audiforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=31600), said that there is nothing much to S-line, than a spoiler and badge. I mean, how ignorant can you be?

I don't meant to look down at guys here who don't have S-line. But, I, along with others are making a point that there is more than a spoiler that makes S-line, ...ah let's say S-line.

Abbott, where are you in Maryland?. I am in Gaithersburg. Let's try to get all Audi enthus of Maryland together and take our rides out, just like HOG (Harley Owners Group)!

I'm only replying to this since I got called out by name. You are totally misquoting me, Nocturnal. If you go back and read my post, my intent was to compare your s-line to my 2.7T sport package. I have sport seats and a lowered stiffer suspension. So was I wrong to say your s-line adds a spoiler, a badge set, a Tip, and 15 hp (which you left out)? I also recalltyping that I like the s-line, I just prefer my six-speed. So where is the disrespect on my part?

I reread my post and saw my comment about the S-line not adding enough to be top of the line. I'll concede that it is a top of the line A6, but I will continue to argue that I'd rather have my set up with the six speed. That is obviously a personal preference.

AudiA4Guy04
11-09-2007, 01:23 AM
http://trucksintexas.autorevo.com/webtemplate.aspx?iid=199875

just a thought...

2k S4
11-09-2007, 01:51 AM
ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C
Just because i have one, i would get the S-Line. Another reason why i would get the 2004 S-Line over the 2000 2.7 is because why would you want to but a car thats going to be 7-8 years old?


Don't hate. I just purchased a 10yo car that cost more then any A6 & even more then a used RS6. Does that make me dumb? Just because it's old doesn't make it a bad choice, or a bad car. Stop being so narrow minded.

Tha H.N.I.C
11-09-2007, 10:15 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
11-09-2007, 10:18 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
11-09-2007, 10:46 AM
ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C
Just because i have one, i would get the S-Line. Another reason why i would get the 2004 S-Line over the 2000 2.7 is because why would you want to but a car thats going to be 7-8 years old?


Don't hate. I just purchased a 10yo car that cost more then any A6 & even more then a used RS6. Does that make me dumb? Just because it's old doesn't make it a bad choice, or a bad car. Stop being so narrow minded.


1. why would i hate????? did i ever asked you what you just purchased? lol......i mean really? did i ever ask you what you just purchased?

2.if you read the WHOLE thread, its between an A6 and an S-Line....on other cars. lol....you ask like a used 200-2004 A6 costa lot of money. i can name a rack of cars over 10 years old that cost more then those years of the A6......like an M5, NSX,A lambo, Aston Martin, 1964 impila. so whats your point? everyone knows that it depends on the type of car.

it's funny because you just pick one post out of 50+ to get in on. and the funniest part is that you was even in on the convo until now. you are all in the kool-aid, and dont even know the flavor....lol.

2k S4
11-09-2007, 01:50 PM
ORIGINAL: Tha H.N.I.C
1. why would i hate????? did i ever asked you what you just purchased?* lol......i mean really?* did i ever ask you what you just purchased?

2.*if you read the WHOLE thread, its between an A6 and an S-Line....on other cars. lol....you ask like a used 200-2004 A6 cost*a lot of money. i can name a rack of cars over 10 years old that cost more then those years of the A6......like an M5, NSX,*A lambo,* Aston Martin, 1964 impila.* so whats your point?* everyone knows that it depends on the type of car.*

it's funny because you just pick one post out of 50+ to get in on.* and the funniest part is that* you was even in on the convo until now.* you are all in the kool-aid, and dont even know the flavor....lol.


I wasn't going to get into this....

Just about every post, even the edited ones, have you bashing every one who doesn't have a S-line. No, you didn't ask what my new car is, & I didn't tell you. It was marly to make a point, that a 8yo car is not useless, or a bad purchase.

Yes, it is between a A6 & S-line, but you can make that argument with any base car & up-rated model. Why even buy a S-line? 15 extra hp is nothing, so you want half a S6? Why not just get a S6 with a lot more HP & lots of other goodies? My point is not every one wants a S-line, not every one wants more HP, some people just want a nice cruiser. It is a luxury car, & not a sports car.

This is a internet forum, any one can get into any topic, they choose. Why do you have so many post in only 2 topics? I check a lot of post, & read most of them, I choose to post when I have something to contribute to the forum, not to just start a fight.