interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or older 6spd
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interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or older 6spd - 10/31/2007 4:19:40 AM
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pyrex
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I am in a bit of a conundrum in deciding which car I think would be a better choice in terms of value and driving performance. The s-line, while albeit slower acceleration because of the auto, has 15 more horsepower, and is also 3 - 4 years newer than the 6-speeds that I am finding around here in Texas.
Is getting a 6 speed that much more fun to drive with, that it would be worth getting a car that is 3 years older, and still the same price (similar mileage too)?
Does the '04 s-line have anything over the 2000-01 6spd, such as better suspension, etc?
Also in terms of performance, If I were to add a giac chip to the car I choose, would the acceleration gain from the extra horsepower and torque be higher on the manual, or equal to an auto?
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 10/31/2007 6:14:55 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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Just because i have one, i would get the S-Line. Another reason why i would get the 2004 S-Line over the 2000 2.7 is because why would you want to but a car thats going to be 7-8 years old?
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 10/31/2007 10:44:23 AM
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techbod
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silly question really,
whats worth more a classic or a new set of wheels and how do you define "new", give me the classic 24/7 personal choice only of course
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 10/31/2007 10:46:55 AM
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Tha Abbot
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The acceleration is not slower, if so not by that much. If you chip a S-Line, you will still have 15 more HP and more torque then a regular A6, manual or auto. The S-Line was only built in 2004, so you get rarity with the S-Line. You get the RS 4 rim and RS 6 spoiler that everybody wants with the S-Line. If the price and miles are the same, why not get a newer car, for get the fun factor, look at the value.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 10/31/2007 10:50:14 AM
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Tha Abbot
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silly question really,
whats worth more a classic or a new set of wheels and how do you define "new", give me the classic 24/7 personal choice only of course
LOL, Yea, but the car is not 20 years old LOL
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 10/31/2007 12:26:10 PM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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silly question really,
whats worth more a classic or a new set of wheels and how do you define "new", give me the classic 24/7 personal choice only of course
LOL......Now this is funny. There's is nothing "classic" about an A6
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 10/31/2007 8:05:30 PM
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Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 6:33:52 AM
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Tha Abbot
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Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.
Second, third, and fourth that.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 6:36:00 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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I love my S-Line. I was never that big on the A6, until the S-Line came out. To me, it looks nothing like the regular A6. Like Tha Abbot said, with the S-Line, you get all of the things that everyone wants....like the rims and the spoiler.....and you can see the exhaust pipes without having to change the bumper.
Like i said before, why would you want to buy a 7-8 year old car anyway?
I live in MD and I got my S-Line used in VA for 20K with 50K miles on it.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 11:07:35 AM
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pyrex
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The acceleration is not slower, if so not by that much. If you chip a S-Line, you will still have 15 more HP and more torque then a regular A6, manual or auto. The S-Line was only built in 2004, so you get rarity with the S-Line. You get the RS 4 rim and RS 6 spoiler that everybody wants with the S-Line. If the price and miles are the same, why not get a newer car, for get the fun factor, look at the value.
Thanks everyone for all your input, getting a car that is half as old is probably a better idea, even if it does have the same amount miles. The s-line does seem like the solid choice for what seems like an extra 2 grand because of all the body features, better brakes + suspension. The better suspension should definitely make up in handling for what it lacks in a slightly lower acceleration and all the other goodness that comes with having a manual, including the aggravation of driving in traffic. Also on average, how many miles can the engine in an s-line handle before it really needs to be replaced with an entirely new car, I heard turbos start wearing out around 100k; is that also around when you need a whole new engine? Would it be worth getting a non-turbo (such as the 3.0 or 4.2) for longevity purposes if I planned on having this car for more than 5 years?
When my saab 9-3 ('05 aero) lease is returned to the shop I will start looking around more for a good deal.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 12:19:26 PM
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Tha Abbot
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I like the Saab 9-3's...and you have the aero too. The aero is in the same boat as the S-line, compaired to and regular 9-3. Far as the turbo's going up, if you beat up the car then the turbo's will go up, thats kinda all I have to say about that. Everybody say that the turbo's will fail, but ask them how do they drive?
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 12:56:12 PM
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daroshi
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ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7
Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.
All 2.7T's , S-line or not, use the 321mm front rotors. 2000-2001 have the 4-piston HP2 calipers (same as the 2000-2002 S4). 2002 thru 2004 use a single piston ATE caliper. The suspension is merely the same sport suspension available on earlier models. If you check the Audi model specs for 2004 A6 from this page http://www.audiworld.com/model/ you will see in the back that the "S-line" is merely a trim package. Most of the goodies including the true sport seats were an option even on the S-line. If you plan to chip it and add aftermarket suspension, the only thing left from the S-line is the $200 spoiler... bdmstang's 2004 6MT is a great deal...just add an RS6 spoiler http://www.audiforums.com/m_686957/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#686957
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 1:15:13 PM
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Tha Abbot
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ORIGINAL: Nocturnal_A62.7
Also, S-line came with bigger front rotors, stiffer suspension, and was 20mm lower than the regular 2.7s. I have S-line, and believe me it worth going for it.
All 2.7T's , S-line or not, use the 321mm front rotors. 2000-2001 have the 4-piston HP2 calipers (same as the 2000-2002 S4). 2002 thru 2004 use a single piston ATE caliper. The suspension is merely the same sport suspension available on earlier models. If you check the Audi model specs for 2004 A6 from this page http://www.audiworld.com/model/ you will see in the back that the "S-line" is merely a trim package. Most of the goodies including the true sport seats were an option even on the S-line. If you plan to chip it and add aftermarket suspension, the only thing left from the S-line is the $200 spoiler... bdmstang's 2004 6MT is a great deal...just add an RS6 spoiler http://www.audiforums.com/m_686957/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#686957
Why add a spoiler when you can buy a car with one installed already. http://www.giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=12 here the chip for the S-Line, so you will keep your 15 extra hp. Trim level or not, out of the 2.7T's the S-Line is the top of the line. I dont know about anyone else, but when I by a car, I want the best that model has to offer.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 2:14:50 PM
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ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot
Why add a spoiler when you can buy a car with one installed already. http://www.giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=12 here the chip for the S-Line, so you will keep your 15 extra hp. Trim level or not, out of the 2.7T's the S-Line is the top of the line. I dont know about anyone else, but when I by a car, I want the best that model has to offer.
I think the point some are making here, myself included, is that the S-line package does not necessarily add enough to claim top of the line. I would much rather have my 6 speed than the 15 hp, spoiler nub, and s-line emblems. The S-line is a nice car for sure though. Definitely the way to go with the tip.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 5:15:01 PM
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Nocturnal_A62.7
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Wow, you magically resolved "The Great S-Line Problem" with $200 spoiler. I am sure people who paid premium were not stupid when they bought the S-line, after paying few more thousands bucks. If you think that the S-line is just spoiler and badge, then that all right. However, people here understands more that that.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 6:53:41 PM
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I would much rather have my 6 speed than the 15 hp, spoiler nub, and s-line emblems.
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Wow, you magically resolved "The Great S-Line Problem" with $200 spoiler. I am sure people who paid premium were not stupid when they bought the S-line, after paying few more thousands bucks. If you think that the S-line is just spoiler and badge, then that all right. However, people here understands more that that.
Huh?
It's been said in these forums a million times, all the S-line is, is a glorifed "sport" package A6. It's a trim level.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/1/2007 9:04:21 PM
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Nocturnal_A62.7
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All right 747, whats your point. My point is that unlike another gentleman on this board, I believe that there is more to S-line than just a spoiler. Abbott, correct me if I am wrong.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/2/2007 6:42:35 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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After reading what everyone is saying, it seems to me that if you don’t have an S-Line, then you are a “S-Line hater” because you don’t have one and the only claim that the guys can make for why they don’t like/wouldn’t buy/ or don’t want one is because it’s a tip instead of a “true” 5 or 6 speed.
Lol….it cracks me up when people say that they could care less about the 15 extra hp, lol……but you guys TRY to add the 15 more hp with all of that bolt on crap. you even try to add the spoiler to make it look like the S-Line.
Out of all of the 2.7’s, the S-Line is the top of the line and it’s “the classic”. 2004 was the last year body style for the A6, and they ended it BIG with the S-Line. I mean look at the car. Despite you the guys who don’t have one thinks, it looks just like the RS6. The S-Line is the lil brother of the RS6.
If you can’t afford the RS6, but you like the RS6 look (which most, if not all of us do), that’s reason enuff to buy a S-Line.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/2/2007 7:16:07 AM
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Tha Abbot
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After reading what everyone is saying, it seems to me that if you don’t have an S-Line, then you are a “S-Line hater” because you don’t have one and the only claim that the guys can make for why they don’t like/wouldn’t buy/ or don’t want one is because it’s a tip instead of a “true” 5 or 6 speed.
Lol….it cracks me up when people say that they could care less about the 15 extra hp, lol……but you guys TRY to add the 15 more hp with all of that bolt on crap. you even try to add the spoiler to make it look like the S-Line.
Out of all of the 2.7’s, the S-Line is the top of the line and it’s “the classic”. 2004 was the last year body style for the A6, and they ended it BIG with the S-Line. I mean look at the car. Despite you the guys who don’t have one thinks, it looks just like the RS6. The S-Line is the lil brother of the RS6.
If you can’t afford the RS6, but you like the RS6 look (which most, if not all of us do), that’s reason enuff to buy a S-Line.
GOOTTT DAYUM LOL, Nocturnal, Tha H.N.I.C., and myself know what we got, and it's not just a trim level. In life people hate on what they don't have, this is just another example!!
I drive in sport mode all the time, when I hit the gas hard, I can get it to redline easily, under normal driving, the gears change at 4000 RPM's, higher if I'm ballin'....the same as the 6 speed.
If you have a 6 speed, go test drive a S-Line, then make a comment.
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/2/2007 7:30:22 AM
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I am not by any means a S-line hater. What I hate is people who own S-lines and act like they have this VASTLY SUPERIOR car compared to ours. Such as this line of greatness:
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I pull up to the club in a S-Line with my girl, you pull up in a 2.7 with your girl, you're like "Dawg, what's the difference between the 2.7 and the S-Line", I'm like 5-6 gran cock sucker beat it!
I wish I could own a S-line just so I could say that to people who own a plain old A6.  Give me a break.
You like your car, thats great. I love my car, thats great too. And the fact that I mod my car with all that "bolt on crap" has nothing to do with me wanting to be like an S-line lol, its called tuning and wrenching on my car. It's fun and is going to give me far more than 15 whole whopping HP you got from the factory... ROFL.
So as you say, if all of us that have "regular" A6's that add spoilers are posing to look like we have an S-line, aren't you posing to look like you have a RS6?
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RE: interested in purchasing 2.7t, 2004 s-line, or olde... - 11/2/2007 8:00:39 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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I am not by any means a S-line hater. What I hate is people who own S-lines and act like they have this VASTLY SUPERIOR car compared to ours. Such as this line of greatness:
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I pull up to the club in a S-Line with my girl, you pull up in a 2.7 with your girl, you're like "Dawg, what's the difference between the 2.7 and the S-Line", I'm like 5-6 gran cock sucker beat it!
I wish I could own a S-line just so I could say that to people who own a plain old A6. Give me a break.
You like your car, thats great. I love my car, thats great too. And the fact that I mod my car with all that "bolt on crap" has nothing to do with me wanting to be like an S-line lol, its called tuning and wrenching on my car. It's fun and is going to give me far more than 15 whole whopping HP you got from the factory... ROFL.
So as you say, if all of us that have "regular" A6's that add spoilers are posing to look like we have an S-line, aren't you posing to look like you have a RS6?
To answer your question, no I’m not posing to have a RS6 because my car came with the stuff….or should I say, “The Trim Level”, so you lose that battle…point blank.
The S-Line is vastly superior because I could put the same bolt on crap as you that you have on your car and I would still have a whopping 15 extra hp then yours.
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