does anyone know if there is a way to get the fog lights to run without having the headlights on?

No but would also like to know...I'll ask my install guy at work 2moro

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depending on yoru vehicle, I believe it can be done with teh VAG-tool, for some models/years. Do a search. I'm sure there are at least two posts answering that very thing, in the archives.

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It's definitely possible and has been done. I've seen it on one of these forums, if not here, than audiworld or audizine. stretch out those fingers and start searching.

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Oh, and post the link here when you find it, if you'd be so kind. I'm not really interested in doing it (my fmic will get rid of my fogs anyway), but I'm sure it would help someone else.

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Here's the link:

http://www.audiworld.com/tech/ext10.shtml

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Link provided just below this post.

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i have a 2005 2.0t a4 and that site was for a diff year.. any other suggestions?

It's still the same idea. The power for the fog relay is supplied by the switched leg of the headlight relay. Use a test light and probe each wire on the fog relay. When you find one that lights up the test light when you turn on the headlights, that's the power leg for the fog relay. Run that (through a fuse equal in rating to your OEM fog fuse) directly to 12V power and you'll be able to use them anytime. Be careful though - you will still have power to the lights when the ignition is off. Probably your car is like the B5 and has the terminal posts under the dash - connect that power leg for the fog relay to the yellow post under the dash, and you'll then have ignition-switched foglight power. You can use them whenever you want, independent of the headlights, but they'll shut off with the car.

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thanks alot for your input im gonna try it soon