Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line" chip?
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Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line&quo... - 11/7/2007 11:40:26 AM
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alias747
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There have been many people on here saying that there was a special tuning from GIAC for the S-line A6 that allows to get the full chipping power PLUS keep the 15 extra HP from stock on top of that. THAT IS MIS-INFORMATION! The chip tuning from GIAC is the SAME for all 2.7t engines. People say stuff when they don't actually know. A rep from GIAC told me directly. I just thought this should be set straight...
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/7/2007 11:48:42 AM
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Tha Abbot
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I'm the one who told you about the S-Line chip, and for you to say I dont know....Check this link out, it's the same link I gave you on the last S-Line discussion.
http://www.giacusa.com/programs.php?mpid=12
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/7/2007 1:31:57 PM
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Tha Abbot
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You don't even have a S-Line and it bugged you that much.....your funny LOL.
So basically you're tryin to say is that, different ECU= no compatible chip for the S-Line because all I've been hearing is that the S-Line ECU is tuned different, which means no chip will work, not even the chip for the A6.
Yea, whatever, you called GIAC, but why would they advertize it on there web site?
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/7/2007 2:18:14 PM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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There have been many people on here saying that there was a special tuning from GIAC for the S-line A6 that allows to get the full chipping power PLUS keep the 15 extra HP from stock on top of that. THAT IS MIS-INFORMATION! The chip tuning from GIAC is the SAME for all 2.7t engines. People say stuff when they don't actually know. A rep from GIAC told me directly. I just thought this should be set straight...
1. None of the S-Line owners are going to believe that you talked to someone from GIAC, so that statement is irrelevant.
2. If you don’t have an S-Line, then what do you care? I mean really?
3. If there is only one chip, do you (or anyone else who is reading this) know anyone who has chipped an S-Line? If so, did they dyno test it to see if it has the same HP has a regular A6?
On the APR website, it saids that the power that the chip makes, is based on the ECU. SO, if the S-line ECU is turned for 15 more HP, then a APR chipped S-Line will have 15 more HP then a GIAC chipped regular A6...........if both chips generate the same HP. Right or wrong?
http://www.icsperformance.com/APR4.htm
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/7/2007 2:52:26 PM
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Just asking a question here. Since the A6 and S-line have the same engine and the same turbos, doesn't it stand to reason that the extra 15hp comes from a slightly more aggressive OEM ECU that pumps up the turbos a little more? Nothing I have read indicates the plumbing, exhaust, or anything else differs. Therefore, if you replace either an A6 or the S-line OEM ECU with a GIAC (or APR) that spools the turbo to a higher boost and probably plays with the timing and fuel mixture - and it's the same engine - then both will end up chipped to the same power level. Ergo, the 15hp advantage gets lost in the overall 70hp gain.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/7/2007 6:49:00 PM
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This thread is pretty funny. I think we should view this as a thread that resolves the s-line + chip = (?) question rather whatever shenanagans seem to be going on thus far. I have heard in my vw days that a chip for the 150 HP 1.8T brings that car to a level playing field as a chipped 180 hp 1.8T. The extra 30 hp is not added on top of the increase from the chip. I suspect this to hold true for the s-line 2.7T, but that is just a guess.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 5:41:49 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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This thread is pretty funny. I think we should view this as a thread that resolves the s-line + chip = (?) question rather whatever shenanagans seem to be going on thus far. I have heard in my vw days that a chip for the 150 HP 1.8T brings that car to a level playing field as a chipped 180 hp 1.8T. The extra 30 hp is not added on top of the increase from the chip. I suspect this to hold true for the s-line 2.7T, but that is just a guess.
You are right, i think this thread should be about asking questions, but we all know that its not going to turn out that way. It's going to turn out to be what is always has.....a big fight between the S-Line owners and the regular A6 owners and the Regulars will win because its more of them.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 5:45:59 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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Just asking a question here. Since the A6 and S-line have the same engine and the same turbos, doesn't it stand to reason that the extra 15hp comes from a slightly more aggressive OEM ECU that pumps up the turbos a little more? Nothing I have read indicates the plumbing, exhaust, or anything else differs. Therefore, if you replace either an A6 or the S-line OEM ECU with a GIAC (or APR) that spools the turbo to a higher boost and probably plays with the timing and fuel mixture - and it's the same engine - then both will end up chipped to the same power level. Ergo, the 15hp advantage gets lost in the overall 70hp gain.
From my understanding, you'er not replacing the ECU, you are just adding something to it. DONT QUOTE ME ON THIS!!!!!!! This is only a quess from me because i dont have one.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 6:43:12 AM
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Tha Abbot
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This thread is pretty funny. I think we should view this as a thread that resolves the s-line + chip = (?) question rather whatever shenanagans seem to be going on thus far. I have heard in my vw days that a chip for the 150 HP 1.8T brings that car to a level playing field as a chipped 180 hp 1.8T. The extra 30 hp is not added on top of the increase from the chip. I suspect this to hold true for the s-line 2.7T, but that is just a guess.
With the 1.8T's, I know you just heard this, so I'm just replying to what you heard. I understand chipping a 150 hp, but why chip a 180 hp if you will lost 30 hp. I understand you will over all gain hp, but you paid for the extra 30 hp, now you have to eat the $2-3,000 you paid for the extra 30 hp just to lose it, might as well buy a 150 hp, to me, where's the logic? $2-3,000 is a lot of money to burn like that. Same concept with the S-Line, I'm pertty sure soneone at APR or GIAC thinks the sameway. You ( I ) paid for the "trim level", so for APR or GIAC as a company, I expect them to give me my moneys worth.
I know some people would like to think it's about "Performance Gain", but at the end of the day, it's about customer services, delivering a quality product, how to get the customers to come back, and MONEY. If the company(s) can't deliver a product for my car, they why buy from that company?
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 6:52:13 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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From my understanding, you'er not replacing the ECU, you are just adding something to it. DONT QUOTE ME ON THIS!!!!!!! This is only a quess from me because i dont have one.
Ok so now that you are asking questions, let me provide you with an answer like I have already done... NO, you are NOT adding to it. Like I have been saying ALL along, you are ERASING the original tuning and loading completely NEW tuning that GIAC gives you, hence the reason why I said all chips for the 2.7T are the SAME. Ok anyone else still miss understanding? Or better yet, does anyone else want to accuse me of just making this **** up?
OK, you answered the question about GIACbecause i assume that you have a chip from them, but what about ARP? On their website, it even states that the HP gain is based on your ECU.
I just love how you skipped over the 2nd part of my question so that you and prove your point.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 6:59:45 AM
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Guys what alls Alias was trying to do was just help out those who might have thought u would get the 15hp on top. No need to get all over his grill. He just trying to help out others.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 7:11:06 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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Guys what alls Alias was trying to do was just help out those who might have thought u would get the 15hp on top. No need to get all over his grill. He just trying to help out others.
Its how he is doing it. Like he's mr know-it-all. This whole thread is being continued from someone else's thread that was posted weeks ago. Someone made, what he thought was a good point, and he said that it was a thread closer, but what does it do, he goes and open up a new post with the same question. He say that he doesnt want an S-Line.....hummm, i cant tell. Why spend all of this unnessuary energy of something that you dont want or have?
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 7:24:32 AM
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Guys what alls Alias was trying to do was just help out those who might have thought u would get the 15hp on top. No need to get all over his grill. He just trying to help out others.
No one knows how much hp you will gain, I have a S-Line and I don't even care because I'm not chipping my car, it's not even that important to me. But if I were to chip it and ARP or GIAC don't have a chip for the S-Line, I'll find a company that will offer one.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 7:27:13 AM
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OK, you answered the question about GIACbecause i assume that you have a chip from them, but what about ARP? On their website, it even states that the HP gain is based on your ECU.
I just love how you skipped over the 2nd part of my question so that you and prove your point.
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Why spend all of this unnessuary energy of something that you dont want or have?
Ok chill man, like riot said, all I want to do is help you guys understand. I came into that thread and I saw people saying stuff like ti was fact and it didnt make sense to me, so I wanted to investigate. Yet somehow as soon as I try to explain something to you guys I get blasted saying that I am a "s-line hater". Not the case, in fact I have already admitted I like the s-line, I just hate tip. That is all...
Now, if you would like to listen to me and I can explain this...
I have APR tuning for my A6, as my sig says. The link you posted is saying that the difference in ECUs and power gains is relating to what engine you have in your car. Look at the table right below that. See how the group ALL 2.7T A6's from 2000-2004 together, and they all have the same HP gains? They erase the original OEM tuning, s-line or not, and load there tuning on. Now, I know APR has a switching program that allows you to revert back to stock tuning if you want. It's a feature that costs extra, but then you will still have your stock level 265 HP to go back to. So in a sense you are keeping the 15 HP, I guess. Does this make sense to you? I don't like to argue, I just like to inform people. I am not an s-line hater, just don't act aloof around me becuase you think your car is better, thats all I ask. Are we good?
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 8:04:15 AM
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Tha H.N.I.C
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OK, you answered the question about GIACbecause i assume that you have a chip from them, but what about ARP? On their website, it even states that the HP gain is based on your ECU.
I just love how you skipped over the 2nd part of my question so that you and prove your point.
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Why spend all of this unnessuary energy of something that you dont want or have?
Ok chill man, like riot said, all I want to do is help you guys understand. I came into that thread and I saw people saying stuff like ti was fact and it didnt make sense to me, so I wanted to investigate. Yet somehow as soon as I try to explain something to you guys I get blasted saying that I am a "s-line hater". Not the case, in fact I have already admitted I like the s-line, I just hate tip. That is all...
Now, if you would like to listen to me and I can explain this...
I have APR tuning for my A6, as my sig says. The link you posted is saying that the difference in ECUs and power gains is relating to what engine you have in your car. Look at the table right below that. See how the group ALL 2.7T A6's from 2000-2004 together, and they all have the same HP gains? They erase the original OEM tuning, s-line or not, and load there tuning on. Now, I know APR has a switching program that allows you to revert back to stock tuning if you want. It's a feature that costs extra, but then you will still have your stock level 265 HP to go back to. So in a sense you are keeping the 15 HP, I guess. Does this make sense to you? I don't like to argue, I just like to inform people. I am not an s-line hater, just don't act aloof around me becuase you think your car is better, thats all I ask. Are we good?
i was never trying to argue, but i'm like you, i dont like when people say that the A6 is better then the S-Line because its not a 5 or 6 speed.
I always though that when people said "chipped", is was a ECU add on and not an ECU reprogram.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 9:09:39 AM
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I e-mailed APR and GIAC, for information about a chip for the S-Line, if they respond with an answer, I will paste the e-mails.
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 1:18:26 PM
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My E-mail to ARP:
I have an 2004 Audi A6 2.7T S-Line, VIN# WAUCD64B54N090705
I would like some information about a software chip for my 2004 A6 S-Line.
Dose APR offer a chip specially designed for the S-Line that will still give me the performance benefit of having an S-Line, or will it down grade my car to the same performance as an normal 2004 A6? The 2.7T S-Line produce 15 more HP and 22 more torque over an A6 2.7T?
Responce from ARP:
It will not downgrade anything, but you will only make as much power as the regular 2.7Ts with our chip. This is because Audi just made the s-line with a tad more power but there were no hardware changes.
Regards,
Chris Gigon
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APR, LLC. Phone: (800)680-7921
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Auburn, Al 36830 Fax: (334)502-5180
Responce back to ARP:
There is nothing that ARP can do for the S-Lines owner? When we brought the S-lines, we paid for the extra power, so to chip a S-Line, you're basically throwing away the extra money spent on an S-line, that's bad business and unfair to the S-Line owners.
Is there anything ARP can do for the S-Line owners?
(But ARP dose not offer an S-line chip on there web site, I'm still waiting for GIAC)
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 1:42:02 PM
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So wat that guy just said proved that Alias was right the whole time?
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RE: Who ever said there was a special GIAC "S-line... - 11/8/2007 1:48:35 PM
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So wat that guy just said proved that Alias was right the whole time?
LOL, not really, ARP never posted an S-Line chip, GIAC did.
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