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chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 7:27:58 AM   
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I was planning on chipping my 2001 a6 2.7t with the GIAC chip and later on down the road getting exhaust and intake. I have tried to read up on the topic but havent found if it is completely safe for the transmission? Now a couple of side questions what recomendations do you have for an exhaust and intake? Also if anyone could help me on trying to change my tranny code and how to find out exactly what my code is?


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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 7:57:29 AM   
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Chip it. Chip it good.

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 9:46:41 AM   
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so was that a "transmission will be fine after all upgrades" comment? 

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 9:53:15 AM   
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Tranny will be fine. chip it
Exhaust...depends on what you are looking for... how loud or quiet you want it.
Definitely do Piggy pipes for more TQ and HP plus more reliability
Save your $ and don't do an intake.I would recommend NewSouth Powergaskets though when yuo change your auxikiary water pump.
For the Tranny recode, your stock is either 00002 or 01002. Just change the end form 02 to 32.

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 9:54:34 AM   
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You pays your money, you takes your chances.

With the Audi Tiptronic, that would be $11,000 worth of chances.

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 10:10:31 AM   
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quote:

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so was that a "transmission will be fine after all upgrades" comment? 


Er....not exactly. It was me being kinda unhelpful. I don't have an A6 or anything with a TIP. I did get to ride in a Stage 2 A6 though and it was REALLY fast. It delivered power without the transmission begging for mercy. Mods were Intake, Exhaust, Fueling and Chip. It was done at a shop by a guy who really knows his stuff. If it was going to burst into flames I'm sure he wouldn't have done the work. If it was my A6 I'd do it and not worry about it. I wouldn't do any 3,500rpm brake stands though. I won't even do that in my S4 cuz I love it tooooo much :)

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 10:32:19 AM   
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Tranny will be fine. chip it
Exhaust...depends on what you are looking for... how loud or quiet you want it.
Definitely do Piggy pipes for more TQ and HP plus more reliability
Save your $ and don't do an intake.I would recommend NewSouth Powergaskets though when yuo change your auxikiary water pump.
For the Tranny recode, your stock is either 00002 or 01002. Just change the end form 02 to 32.


For an exhaust i would like a sport sounding exhaust...more like a lower/meaner sound...nothing like a ricer fart can

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 11:16:12 AM   
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A good solution for the added power it a tip chip. This is a transmission chip that will help the trans cope with the added power.

There are 2 companies that make them

1 GIAC

2 VAST Performance

I would go with vast as they have 3 option levels to choose from to better suite your needs. while you are there get the Dp's they will help save the turbos while you are at it

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/15/2008 11:48:35 AM   
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Definetely chip it. I got an APR chip and its great. I did it over 40k miles ago and no problems. Although its unpreventable that you'll hit the gas harder don't abuse it. I take care of my baby and always treat it right. I also did a custom exhaust with 3" piping and subtle tips. I also did a custom intake. It does help with breathing but I wouldn't buy a $300 kit as they're a waste. Also get dp's and dv's. All this and you're gonna have a serious performing luxury sedan. It kills me not being able to put k04's so I'm look for a MT. But there's nothing wrong with tweaking ur AT.

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 1:43:11 AM   
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Euro why can't you put on ko4's

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 7:36:54 AM   
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1) As what I've heard even changing the code on the tranny you'll still run chances of ruining it when pushing a lot more power than it was originally built to push.
2) I don't know how much life my A6 will have since I put like 30k miles a year. I don't wanna turn a daily driver into a racecar I'd rather to it right and just get a mt that will handle the power properly without risking huge unnecessary damage.
3) I have heard of tip's getting fmic's and k04's and the whole nine yards of performance but I can imagine at least wanting to use a clutch on a car of that performance level.

I am looking right now for a 2.7 mt or a 1.8 6-mt which I'll just throw in a biaggio or garret
turbo. How do you like the 6mt 4.2? I had that car in mind for a while but I'm guessing the tranny swap is a pain. I know the 4.2 is a lot more tunable than people are aware of. Gimme ur input

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 8:57:14 AM   
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YOu can go stage 3 on a tip, been done many times on S4's and A6 2.7T, but yuor tranny will definitely won't live as long which is why most end yo getting an upgraded TC/valvebody and then no issses

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 11:48:41 AM   
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1 the trans code and chip are going to extend the life of the trans. As the prussure in the trans is raised and the shifting patterns are altered to stop the slippage during shifting. IMO I must have for the tip.

2 diffinently a MT is going to be more performance oriented. but in the end you are trading the money on a trans rebuild for a LWFW and a stage 3 clutch. Still the clutch is less than the trans rebuild

3 I went with the conversion for the fact I enjoy the MT

The 4.2 is coming along with the performance parts. As for the trans conversion. You really need to look at what your goal is. I am trying to make more of a statement with my car so for me I will except the investment. Performance wise the 2.7 is a different word.  The 4.2 market is starting to come alive but in the end for me. you can't beat the sound of the V8 so that is where I chose to go

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 3:39:26 PM   
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2nd on adding the tip chip. the tip chip is not only good proventitive ins for the trans it helps performance.

the giac tip chip really didn't give me that night and dad difference. but I am going to be getting the vast performance one soon as I have hered that is much better

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 5:13:33 PM   
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Yeah I see what you mean baskin. I guess even my Tip does have a lot of potential and all that tip chipping sounds interesting and all but I also want to install that '07 RS6 body kit by olufsen(or w/e the brand's called-i think that might be a speaker brand ) so if im gonna buy a new A6 with the facelift I might as well get everything I want in it. In the midwest mt's are hard to find. I got 6 more months in my current 01 til its paid so that's when I'll jump into debt again. Mac n cheese dinners here I come.

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 6:36:06 PM   
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I have a tip ... is it possible to do  MT swap

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/16/2008 7:36:28 PM   
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Yeap! Someone on Audizine does the swaps, he is in NY

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/17/2008 1:37:35 PM   
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do you happen to have the contact info ??

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/17/2008 2:18:25 PM   
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Sorry to say but the Tiptronic Transmissions (found in the 2.7T A6, Allroad, S4) are prone to Torque Converter failiure due to a faulty design in one of the seals. Even the "upgraded" TC's have no guaranty of having a seal that wont fail aswell. Even though the stock TC is robust enough for the power/torque added by the chip, its just that seal that might mess things up.

Not to get you down but a new TC install by the dealer runs at about 2-3K with a down time of about 2 days.

But in the end its a draw of the straw type of thing, some members like formulagigi have been chipped with no problems yet others expirience TC ("failure") with stock power.


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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/18/2008 6:26:24 AM   
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yeah tc failure has happen although its still not as common as turbo failure.  In either case they will last very long as long as right maintenaince is applied and the car aint beaten on. That's why brake stands and daily launching isn't recommended. Even on a MT because then you'll need a clutch either way. I think the AT is strong enough for the A6.

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RE: chipping engine with a tiptronic? - 1/27/2008 5:39:21 PM   
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My S4 is in the shop right now for a torque converter replacement.

I have 66k miles on it.  It has been giving me the Check Engine Light and torque converter clutch stuck code since 59k miles.  It isn't like the car wasn't driveable, but it won't lockup for gas mileage at higher speeds.  So going down the highway with the torque converter unlocked causes it to be revving near 3000 rpms at 75-80 mph and it sucks a lot of gas.

I wish that Level 10 would sell the higher stall torque converters outright and not need to have the old one sent in or I would have put in a higher stall unit for better launches.  I don't drive the car hard at all so I guess I was just one of the lucky ones that will experience the seal going bad.  Hopefully this one lasts a lot longer than 59k miles.

If I ever put K04's on my car I'm going to have to get the Level 10 converter rebuild and also send them my valve body for the rebuild and modification.  Apparently with those two upgrades the transmission can survive fine behind 450 hp.  We'll see in a few years.

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