every M5 of any year you want can take easily a S6 but maybe not the 2007 S6 (with the 10) generally the M5 is a big competitor to the RS6 but the Rs6 will never be beat by a M5 (in your dream bitch!!)
Any M5 will beat any pre-2007 S6. The new M5 will beat the new S6, but I think the new S6 would actually hold its own against one of the older M5's.
The RS6 would be a good race and would certainly beat the old M5, but I am not 100% sure that the RS6 could beat the new M5 without some work (chip).
I raced a couple M5's in my GTO (definitely faster than an old S6) and when I was cam only, it was a pretty close race between me and an older M5 with some minor mods. I edged him out by 2 cars to about 130, but it was a hell of a race.
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The M5 is deffinitly faster. You might be in better shape if you mod the S6 with chip trans and computer, Exhaust, EFK, LWP, intake. One of the biggest issues you will have is the M5 has a better gear ratio. The S6 has a 273 finial drive the M has a 373. you could have more power and still have race issues
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from V8 with too much noise to audi with too much room..but still more power Vast performance stage 2 tiptronic file & stage 3 ECU file. with 2 new chips I now have B6 S4 power lets call it B6 S4+power :P
though even the new one wiht the V10 is not that fast. It is more of a luxo cruiser... around the track i think it'd be worse, the M is just lighter and more athletic in general.
The previous M5 was also wicked quick and was close in perf to the 03 biutrebo v8 rs6.
check out for the new RS6 twin turbo v10 ,,,, now thats an engine body!!!! get a M5 , put a turbo in it ,,,,, no way that this car can beat an stock RS6 twinturbo v10 560hp... the boost is at 7 psi,,,, imagine with 11-12 psi ,.... you'r probably gonna reach 650-700 hp min.... The M series is far behind the RS series of Audi...a stock RS6 (2002 and more) can reach 180 mph with a standard trans.... try to find a stock M5 that can reach that speed !!!
The new A6 V10 is more on the level of a 550i...which has the engine of the E39 M5. And yea the A6 kicks ass...if it was to lose on the straightaway it'll blow in out on the track. Audi is more nimble even though its a little big heavier. The M5 is more comparable to the RS6...which no way in hell will be beat my a BMW. Any performance BMW you throw at us...Audi will top. And if you want to Dinan stage 3 a BMW...we'll throw in an R10 TDI and fvck bimmers! Audi Supremacy b!tch!!!!
Did you just say that Audi's are more nimble than BMW's??? ROFLMAO
Sorry man, but the heavy AWD sedan with almost 60% of its mass hanging over the front axle is not more nimble than the BMW. Audi's have a hard time taking a corner right. You generally have to plow into corners, bury the brakes, fight the understeer to get the front wheels going in the direction you want and stomp on the gas to pull you through the corner. That is far less efficient than a RWD BMW that can easily dial in the right amount of oversteer to push the rear through the corner in a nice sweep.
In a straight away race the RS6/S6 may have a good chance against M5's depending on the year. On a proper racetrack, it's lights out for the Audi's as the BMW will walk all over them.
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:) Audi is NOT nimble!!! not compared to a BMW.. I'll havhe to agree withNJGOAT... The M will walk all over the S or RS (2003 anyway, not enough info on new one) In think even the current S6 si slower than the prior M5, both in a straight or curves The new S6 is very heavy and straight #s are not that good IMO. It is a great luxury fast car, don't get me wrong but not a sports car. The M5 is more of a sport sedan IMO.
Yea but the 550 isn't exactly a sports sedan. Its more of a short 7 series. Have any idea how weak that suspension is on the normal 5 series if it doesn't have the sport package/m mode? F/n blows whale dick! I drove a 540 and it also understeered. Yea an M car is better than a Quattro in a track but in this case I was just comparing the sporty S6 to a front end heavy 550. But hey...what do I know. I've only pushed my A6 to the limits and I love it so I talk trash about other cars. Lol. I could be wrong(possibly) but either way....never take a BMW over an Audi. with 4" of snow on a proper racetrack you tell me who would win. Because they don't make a M5 with x drive. In the real world during the winter....Audi walks all over BMW
I've researched this a lot a flat out, the BMW's are better performers on the track. They don't understeer and they offer great front end maneuvarbility. The Quattro system fights the driver when the car is thrown into a turn which creats understeer. The advantage quattro systems have over BMW's is seen mostly in "less than perfect" conditions. Audi's are all abotu safety and stabilyt, where as BMW's are all about thrills and spills.'
Now... if you you were to say... do a lot of suspension mods and all that.... then it would be a whole different ball game.
Well, in that case you're right. We'll take the best performing A6 and race it against the worst performing 5-series in 4" of snow around a track...in that scenario, the Audi wins.
Just because you love your car doesn't give you an excuse to talk out your rear and trash other cars even if they are or aren't better. I've loved all the cars I've owned, but I also understand their limitations and try to represent them correctly. Trash talk doesn't earn you anything unless you can back it up in the real world.
PS All cars understeer. They are purposefully designed that way so noobs don't go killing themselves when their car oversteers. The difference is that in a RWD drive car, the understeer can be easily overcome with proper throttle application.
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Hey man chill out. it was just comparison & discussion. That's why its titled ''opinions". Nothing personal here. This isn't really trash talk since im not using any offensive words. I never said BMW's are pieces of crap, didn't even say that they're bad cars. I love mostly all cars also. I was only comparing one vehicle to the other. Not everything in general. If im "trash talking" about a BMW its only when I compare it to an Audi...which imo is OVERALL better than a bimmer. Some aspecs the bmw is better but in the long haul I still think Audi whoops tail. I previously stated that the S6 is better than the 550 in particular and no its not the worse performing BMW. But of course a slower and cheaper 335i with the sport package might handle better than the S6 because its suspension is comparable to the M5. And in 4" of snow im sure the mighty M5 would be bowing down to an S-Line also. But whatever. BMW's rape a lot other cars in performance.
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You tube does no justice. There's an easy way settle this. Does anyone have a new (06 or newer) STOCK rs6, close to Philly? I have a 06 M5. I like my A6 but, I love my M. I don't care who you are, you have to concur that Audi and BMW are both remarkable engineering marvels. Let's find somewhere safe, document it and put an end to this silly little topic.
Don't get me wrong, I like the rs6 granite I may have even bought one if I hadn't had the opportunity to purchase the M from my mother. The M series has been in production for a long time and boasts an impeccable and impressive proven track record which has been considered a standard in automotive performance by both consumer and critic.
I'm not trying to get out of line in anyway, 'nor am I trying to be odious towards anybody’s viewpoint. To be honest, I'm curious, myself.
Every review that I have read for 2007 model comparisons of M5 v S6 v AMG's E63, puts the M5 first for drivability or track use. A number of reviews will also note that the S6 is not really the direct competitor for the M5. The RS6 is...
The same goes for the M3 v S4. The comparison should be between the M3 and the RS4. Again, the M3 wins from a drivablity perspective, but day to day use, most say the RS4 is one they would live with.
IMO, BMW's do make the best track saloons, but the Audi's are the ones you would likely to take your kids to school in, do the shopping in and live with. That is of course when you're not using your BMW X5 (or whatever your second car is) for those chores...
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