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bob12312357 Jan 29, 2008 12:18 AM

Adios Muchachos
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60WnqLQF1D8

SAudi Jan 29, 2008 01:11 AM

RE: Adios Muchachos
 
pilot error, from what i can see he had flaps at too high and angle, took off at too high an angle of attack causing a stall along with drag from the flap (cessna 182 rotates at 60knots) and he didnt counter with the rudder to compensate for the crosswind, inexperienced pilot.

CLX Jan 29, 2008 11:53 AM

RE: Adios Muchachos
 

F*ck off, Pam12312357

bob12312357 Jan 30, 2008 12:49 PM

RE: Adios Muchachos
 

ORIGINAL: CLX


F*ck off, Pam12312357
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bob12312357 Jan 30, 2008 01:09 PM

RE: Adios Muchachos
 

ORIGINAL: SAudi

pilot error, from what i can see he had flaps at too high and angle, took off at too high an angle of attack causing a stall along with drag from the flap (cessna 182 rotates at 60knots) and he didnt counter with the rudder to compensate for the crosswind, inexperienced pilot.
Yup,short field takeoff is 10 degrees of flaps. He didn't lift-off at 2 high of angle of attack from the ground,he left ground effect at 2 high an angle of attack at2 low of an airspeed. (Also rember that is 60 knots airspeed not ground speed,and the "stall" speed of the plane is while flying out of ground effect. In ground effect drag is greatly reduced,the engine if its at full power gives the flight controls much great authority from the air blown over them,the plane has much more lift,and will accelerate faster then on the ground or in the air at altitude) A proper soft field takeoff involves starting the run with the yoke backa fair amount to get that nose wheel off the ground asap to avoid hitting holes and suffering a prop strike and 10 degrees of flaps,also if you note his taxing was piss poor as when u taxi on an unpaved runway you hold the elevator nearfull up to take the load off the relatively weak nose gear which can collapse if a hole is hit and the struts travel is used up. His nose gear was bottomed out repeatedly and the elevators weren't held for nose up. Once the nose lifts hold it with the nose gear a bit off the ground until the plane lifts from the mains,when it does lower nose slightly and stay in ground effect until a safe flying speed is reached.
He had the flaps set to what looked like 20-30 degrees,definitly not the 10 they should have been. Taxied with the yoke in a neutral elevator position,failed to maintain yaw control,and took off in an extreme sideways angle,what he inadertantlydid is actaully a manuver done to lose airspeed,called a slip. By Bringing the body of the plane sideways to the actaul direction of its travel you have a quite effective and huge airbrake the size of the side of the plane,couple that with excess flaps,and a High AOA and you have a stall,or spin that will happen in a spectacular manner.

karguy427 Feb 2, 2008 01:18 AM

RE: Adios Muchachos
 
He was overloaded.

germantech Feb 3, 2008 01:50 PM

RE: Adios Muchachos
 
shut the f up pam1212223115345245246 you f ing dick


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