I wish i would have thought of this sooner, since everyone seems to be getting brakes recently. I think if we got enough interest we could make some calls and get a group buy started. i know some people on the forums gotta have some connects. And i'll email the companies that sell the kit and see what they say. I'm thinking the most popular one is gona be the A8 rotors with tt carriers. it's perfect for all you guys preparing to go BT. its the most economy setup but it'll still be good enough. and then you can get the s4 rears later and be set. you dont want 300+ hp and stock brakes[:'(] so let's at least get a list together, and if there is enough interest, we'll see if we can get a pricelist, and then go from there. I for one am in.


The List

1. chaos92287
2. Lazer Viking
3. mr.cAp
4. cantdrive55
5. NuYorka103185
6. explosionsteve
7. ThePaintballGuy
8. retiltxet
9. Josh's friend
10. Bogie
11. mjvss21
12. boostedup
13. 96A4Owner
14. sineo
15. thebishop
16. m6amba
17. Imejia (2)
18. njm23
19. Trey25
20. mtr005
21. Quatro_1.8t
22. 01AudiA4
23. KnoxAudi0711
24. rallyaudi28
25. hiwords
26. BeatjunkieXL
27.

id sign up if i knew about this 10mins ago i just ordered tt carries and zimmerman a8 rotors

[:@] u shoulda checked the forums, i put it up last night. and i was afraid of this happening. there's already been like 4-5 people who've gotten the a8 upgrade in the past week or two. hopefully they're still enough people to do this. i need brakes bad

i'm in

i like it, im in

Depending on final price break I might be in. Would we be able to choose which rotors/pads are used?

^ it would depend on the supplier
i know one of them... cant remember the name, maybe parts4vw.com only offers mintex pads and plain rotors

found it
http://www.parts4vws.com/catalog/product_detail.asp?PartNumber=12%2E3B5%2FMintex

Im in

[:-] that was cool. better start making those emails now lol

Depending on price, I'd be in.

I've considered doing this, but I'd need 16" or 17"wheels. Oneg is selling his, but hasn't returned my PM.
So it all depends on when this actually happens, and I'm still waiting on my euro plate....

Im in!!!!!!! WOO HOO FOR BBK!

Josh

im down

Does anyone know what year for the A8 rotors?Are they the Zimmerman 312 x 25 mmcross-drilled?
And what year TT carriers work on the B5 front brake upgrade?
I'm starting to look around for pricing...

they have a few different rotors available. some are just vented, other are slotted and/or drilled. but they are all 312 x 25. as for the tt carriers i have no idea. my best guess is they are from the tt 225.

+1 if we could get cross drilled rotors. Joo Know Wat Im Saying Mang?

im gunna order rotors on suday, just stock size but slotted cause i gotta do my breaks anyway. if you can get me a quick deal on them id be in for those. if not i just want a price on a full kit drilled and slotted, and if its possible to get 6 piston calipers im lookin for those too. im getting a bbk this summer anyway so i might as well get the parts while their cheap. i have the same issue as bogie w/ not big enuf wheels to do the kit right now.

Hey I am going to post this on my local euro forum to see if I can get anymore people interested in it. Is that cool???

Josh

Also, Just talked to a friend who has a B5 a4 and he said he is in depending on price. So mark him down as Josh's Friend or something like that.

Josh

i would do it for 200, they are 250 from purems and about 230 sourced out.

ORIGINAL: NuYorka103185

+1 if we could get cross drilled rotors. Joo Know Wat Im Saying Mang?


im sure there will be a few options. personally i would just get slotted and not drilled. i heard drilled tends to make the rotor weaker.


and yeah , anyone wanting to post this in other forums, feel free. Nic is posting it on AZ. Just make sure to tell people they will have to do the business thru AF, im not gona make accounts for each forum and have to keep track of it all.

OK, I will actually take care of everything on my local forum and then just give you a total from that forum. Is that cool?

Josh

anyone know if the same upgrade applies to the b6 and b7 guys? if so, i'll make a thread in each subforum linking to this one

ORIGINAL: ThePaintballGuy

OK, I will actually take care of everything on my local forum and then just give you a total from that forum. Is that cool?

Josh


yeah thats cool

I found searching that the B6 guys just do the S4 front brake upgrade.
So far, PureMS has the vented 312mm rotors, tt carriers, newslides and bushings (no pads) for $250.
Only, not sure if they areZimmerman rotors or not (didn't call),but I definitely don't wantcheapo aftermarket rotors made in China.

hey, new here from audizine, I'm down if we can get this for 200 or less.....

pending on price, count me in on your list.

Chaos count me in if the price is below 200. My only concern is whether or not they'll fit with my new rims, I have enkei 16's here's the link:

http://enkei.com/Performance%20specs/or52.html

Jeez Chaos, thanks for doing it now lol - I could've used this two weeks ago!!! ;)

Add me to the long list and once we start to hear some prices, I'll have a better idea of whether or not I can commit.

any price for this group buy yet?

I'm in too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
But only for slotted and drilled rotors.

price?

8N0 615 125X seems to be the part number for the calipers. it seems like the 99-02 tt all have the same numbers but i couldn't find one with the X at the end. i'm in if the price is below 250 with slotted/drilled rotors. the rotors are probably from the 90s a8.

ORIGINAL: UpstateNYA4

Jeez Chaos, thanks for doing it now lol - I could've used this two weeks ago!!! ;)


+1


and boggie....... i have a set of 16 inch sports i could sell you...... brand new tires, just need to be repainted which i could do if you buy them...... they have been painted black

thanks kraut, maybe PM me some recent picks if you got them handy. I'd rather buy local to avoid all the shipping, and did you mean 4 wheels plus the spare, or no spare? Let me know how much $ your asking. I want to keep it cheap for 16's, but I'm also consideringlooking for 17's aftermkt new w/ tire package (or used in the classified) if I can get a set for not much more than the 16's. IMO 18's are just too much for these crappy roads with all the potholes around here. Thanks.
And Brian, Why'm not on dat list yall?

http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?make=Audi&engine=1.8T&model=B5%20 A4&submodel=Quattro&category=Braking&subcategory=B ig%20Brake%20OEM


ecs has 3 different options for the a8 kit, im getting ready to order the slotted, x-drilled....maybe you want to talk to them about it?
i also need a timing belt and some other things i was shopping around for, (hawk hps pads(wouldnt 10 sets of a8 rotors tt caliper carriers, and hawk hps pads rock?), zimmerman slotted, x-drilled rear rotors, and 034 track density engine mounts)....
so if anybody else wants to get any of these things we can work on another group buy.....

sorry, i wasnt trying to hi-jack your thread, just tossing out ideas...:D

ORIGINAL: B5luver

any price for this group buy yet?


jeez. im just posting to start getting interest. i have emailed some peeps and waiting to hear back. Might take a few days to get a price. Group Buys don't happen overnight

ORIGINAL: Bogie

thanks kraut, maybe PM me some recent picks if you got them handy. I'd rather buy local to avoid all the shipping, and did you mean 4 wheels plus the spare, or no spare? Let me know how much $ your asking. I want to keep it cheap for 16's, but I'm also consideringlooking for 17's aftermkt new w/ tire package (or used in the classified) if I can get a set for not much more than the 16's. IMO 18's are just too much for these crappy roads with all the potholes around here. Thanks.
And Brian, Why'm not on dat list yall?


I just didn't get to it yet, sheesh i don't spend ALL day on here:eek:[8D]

willing to commit depending on price... i need to determine wethere it'd be worth it or take another route.. but i know your probably hating this but..let me know how much $$$ ? if the price is good i'll be needing two sets. for my car and my gf's982.8

add me to the list! If the price is $200 or less.. As of now it doesn't seam like there is to much information, just a long list and some hopes. If you can get it rolling count me in!

i would try and get ahold of purems as they have the cheapest price to start... could you also see if the would be willing to pro-rate or give me credit as just bought this and am telling you to go to them?

sent purems a email..... sorry if i have two posts in a row

yeah i sent some emails out already to see if anyone is willing to do a group buy, as soon as i hear back i will post it up

I"m in if its brembo or zimmerman slotted and/or crossdrilled rotors and CERAMIC pads for under $250

ok so apparently Mike over on AZ is also gona talk to pureMS and since he actually has connections this group buy might now be being held over on AZ. i personally don't care, as long as we get a good price. with the guys on AZ there is already over 25 people interested, and its only the second day.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=193396

m6amba: im getting ready to order the slotted, x-drilled

Even though I paid full price for mine two weeks ago, I can't help but feel that I did NOT get screwed even if this group buy goes through - even at list price, these brakes are awesome:)

cant post on az but count me in

I'm in if the price is right, I've been wanting to upgrade the brakes for a while!

Depending on the price count me in---

I dont think my wheels will clear though :( soo someone let me know so i can sell them---18x8.5 HP Evos. NOoo clue about offset haha biggest problem there.

Depending on the total cost, Im in for sure.

i like your idea iown a audi a8 1997 4.2 and i seen theirs 2 different type of breaks one has the break pad sensor one doesnt http://www.bimmerspecialist.com/usa/parts/index/audi i liked their prices

I might be in depending on $

ORIGINAL: 01AudiA4

Depending on the price count me in---

I dont think my wheels will clear though :( soo someone let me know so i can sell them---18x8.5 HP Evos. NOoo clue about offset haha biggest problem there.


it fits stock 16's. it should definitely clear yours

So what do you think NOW about getting these brakes bro? :)

chaos, put me on the list now hehehe

There ya go - now you're talking some sense:)

so these will fit with my enkei's? They're 16's and theres a link to them on the first page of this thread.

Any Idea on price's yet?

ORIGINAL: 96A4Owner

so these will fit with my enkei's? They're 16's and theres a link to them on the first page of this thread.


yup your enkei's should clear em. compared to stock the offset is 3mm wider and the diam is the same

ORIGINAL: 01AudiA4

Any Idea on price's yet?


as soon as i get an email back, i will post the price. if i haven't posted it, its cause i dont know about it yet

im in if the price is right

I put these on a couple weeks ago and they're sick - it's such a huge improvement over OEM A4 brakes. Even at full price they're completely worth it (get Hawk street ceramic or equivalent pads with them). Hiwords can attest to it - he drove my car yesterday and the look on his face seemed to confirm that he agrees:)

Hopefully everyone interested will read this - a lot of you are posting saying you're in "if the price is right." If by that you mean your money may be a bit tight and the cost has to come down to allow you to buy, fine. If you mean you think that as-is, the cost is too high and you wouldn't shell out the cash for them unless they cost less, you are very misinformed. The upgrade makes a gigantic difference. It's 100% worth the money even without a discounted group buy price (to the point that I'd do it before even buying HIDs if I bought another A4, even if it had brand-new front brakes). Any discount that Chaos can arrange is just icing on the cake. There is no way to go wrong with them - it's only a matter of getting a great mod at a fully worthy price, or getting it for an even better price. Don't think for a minute that if the discount is small or doesn't come through, that they're not worth the money - THEY ARE.

'Nuff said - Chaos, I hope that helps you thin out any deluge of PMs you are probably getting regarding this:)

Ok great thanks Chaos, nice avatar btw.;)

here is the email i just recieved from purems

The price on the kits were actually recently lowered slightly, within the
last 30 days, so unfortunately we won't be able to offer any further
discounts on this kit.

i just got the same email:( maybe Mike can pull some strings. if not, i'll just keep my fingers crossed on the other people i emailed

And the hopes just come crashing down

lol aren't you in an optimistic mood tonite:eek: there are still 4 other people i haven't heard back from. only 1 said no

I'd do it, depending on the price.

so the kit includes:

A8 slotted rotors x2
A8 Pads x4
TT calipers x2
TT caliper clips x4
caliper spacer x1?

S4 rotors x2
S4 pads x8? 4 per rotor?
S4 calipers x2
Caliper spacer x4
caliper spacer


how much will this run NON group buy?
if its JUST the A8 rotors + TT calipers then how much would it cost with a non group buy?

Unless I'm reading it wrong, the kit (at least what I got) is only TT carriers and A8 rotors, either blank, slotted, or slotted and drilled - you get aftermarket pads and use your factory A4 calipers - they bolt directly into the TT carriers. Chaos mentioned the S4 rear stuff that you could get on your own later on.

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

And the hopes just come crashing down


i'm not mad, i already got mine, just looking for more discount

ohh okay... can i still get a ball park estimate?

purems, 249 a8w/tt carriers....... and then pads, sensor or not35/65

Yeah I just talked to mike after he emailed me my prices on the carriers. It seems that there would be no way to get the price down to $200 for the kit and it seems that the price on his site right now is just above wholesale.

this is off of zine

I know it's late, but I am VERY interested, please add my name to the list.
I had a lot of trouble getting logged into this website, the password re-set process took me over a day

I have an email in to ecstuning. Although they don't have a kit they do have all the parts. I doubt they will come in low enough, but I thought it's worth a shot.

ecs has a kit, you can get it with either stock rotors($284.95), slotted rotors($349), or slotted x-drilled rotors($349)......

its listed under big brake oem
i am getting the slotted, x-drilled, in fact i was about to order them when i saw this thread, so i am waiting to see what happens, i am getting them, with hawk hps pads regardless of how much, if any discount we get.

I hope this pulls through.

I might be in. Just give me a price quote and let me know what I'm getting.

so chaos, what's going on with this? i read on zine that purems turned us down but their price seems pretty good.

Grrrr priceee mee!!! My brakes are going and i dont know what to do!

Oh and i got two more people that will go in

put me down foer the group buy and if the prices comes at the time i can afford it il buy

ok, so whats the deal with this. im ready to do it

Chaos, you can take me off the list. I won't be needing these brakes anymore ;)

Josh

any word on whether or not ecs will work with us?
i need brakes yesterday and i have money to order them right now if this is gonna go through....if not i will just order them myself....Let us know

ECS has not gotten back to me and no one has offered a price below what purems offers. doesn't look like this is gona pull through[&o]

ORIGINAL: chaos92287

ECS has not gotten back to me and no one has offered a price below what purems offers. doesn't look like this is gona pull through[&o]


And you gave me crap. If ecs does anything, they will match purems price

Only 2 of the 7 places I called for the coilover group buy wanted anything to do with it. Most ofthem said they'd never do any group buy pricing deals ever; they need to have the upper hand -not thecustomer. But here, with over 25 people in on this, I figured they'd be more open. That's like 25 orders ECS,PureMS, or who ever is gonna get, and the other vendors will getZERO orders. You'd think someone would be smart enough to choose 25 orders overZERO. Could be your negotiation tactics... you gotta be firm and let them know someoneelse will be taking their 25 orders unless they can do some kind of deal for you.

^seriously. and there were actually over 30 people in on this, i just stopped updating the list when no one was getting back to me[:'(] and if you include the people on audizine the order could have climbed to over 50 EASY. hell even if the company wasn't making much on the deal, they just helped out 50 members of the community. pretty sure thats gona get them more business in the future. i know i would more inclined to buy from them again.

Soooo there will be no BBK group buy i assume?

no sir, it's quite the sad day. But on the good note, I just put my VVME's in and they look amazing!

ORIGINAL: 01AudiA4

Soooo there will be no BBK group buy i assume?


purems is the cheapest and they wont go any lower. If anyone did drop the cost, they will just go to that price. Just buy them from purems now if you want them.

If anyone would like to shop the parts themselves, I believe these are the part numbers:

Rotor 8DO 615 301 J
Carrier 8NO 615 125

Ouch... was hoping it would pull through... if it does, put me on the list pending the price...

Count me in... depending on price.

ORIGINAL: manufan

If anyone would like to shop the parts themselves, I believe these are the part numbers:

Rotor 8DO 615 301 J
Carrier 8NO 615 125


You give a part number for the stock rotors, but would you happen to know the year of the car that the rotors came from? I really like Centric rotors, and will only use them from now on. On Lancer Evolutions, Centric and Rotor Pros are the cheap alternatives to the expensive Brembos.

i believe the rotors come off the 98 a8. the one that had the same 5 spoke wheels as the b5 a4.

If I upgrade the rear brake to S4 specs, then will I need to get S4 brake pads as well? I haven't seen it mentioned yet, so I guess the A4 pads will might work?

pads go with calipers, not rotors. Also there is no point in upgrading the rears unless you track the car

sooo the brakwe thing is over? on to coilovers?

it never happened

if you happen to get a call back and anyone wants to work with the group buy i am in my brakes are going and im down...
get back with me if something ever comes about...

it wont happen. Just like it said in this thread, no one will beat the purems.com price. Please just go there since you wont see a lower price

wow they have some spankin prices thanx... im still open on the brake thing though ive got my eye now on their control arm kit, my tie rods are done-zo...

ORIGINAL: cincyTT

pads go with calipers, not rotors. Also there is no point in upgrading the rears unless you track the car


I do plan on taking the car to a road course. From I have read, the rear brake upgrade calls for S4 rear calipers, and either A8 rear rotors or B7 S4 rear rotors. One vendor mentioned the B7 rear rotors and said thay the stock A4 rear brake lines won't work. I just wonder what year cars the A8 rotors came from, so I can piece together the kits with parts to my liking.