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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/13/2008 4:29:03 PM

joetm

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I dont beat it everytime i drive it but i have a manual boost controller and its cranked up pretty high when im fooling around lol ... the old TBB was starting to crack i noticed when i removed it. im not sure vasts is any different then samco ... id assume that they model after each other because it is a stock part ... let me know how you like the vast if you get it

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/14/2008 4:16:26 PM

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today on my up to N Va i had a chance to visit the APR guys.. I would have to say so far I am in the middle on the upgrade. I am still unsure after a full day of driving about the upgrade. Although i would have to say i was driving fairly high speeds. I would notice the torque/power but saw around 3/4 rpm the car almost I wouldn't say slips but catches for the extra power. I don't know if this is common or if i should visit the APR guys on the way back. Aswell what type of boost controller do you have? How high can you set it ? ect.

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/14/2008 4:54:07 PM

justincredible

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You can't get the MBC to work with the APR there are only 2 companys who's tuning will allow you to run the MBC

VAST
GIAC
the other tuners have less agressive tunes and the car will go into limp mode

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lets call it B6 S4+power :P

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/14/2008 7:48:06 PM

joetm

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i have a giac chip
i got the MBC from vast and i put a boost gauge in and looked at stock levels and then it was pretty much trial and error from there ... i dont know what you mean about slips and then catches power?

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/17/2008 9:18:03 PM

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Hey guys, i had the chance while going on vacation to get the APR chip put in my car. The car isn't agressive but still has the power :). I really like how the torque is right around the same level and the horse power is still great. I got 2 diverters aswell which are making my turbos hit amazing. I didn't go for the APR diverter because i heard they are a tiny bit shaky. I was wondering guys... What is next? KO4? What other mods can I had for that extra HP! Please help me!!

*** 320 current horsepower isn't enough!

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/17/2008 9:21:35 PM

trapped

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The Vast Tip Chip won't add power, but will make it shift faster and feel faster. You can add an intake, but a drop in filter should do about the same and wont be too noticable. If you do a full exhaust you could add a few hp as well. Yes the Ko4 + Fueling will the next big step, but you need exhaust to run it.

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 4:39:03 PM

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I just bought basically the same car as Wammy, a 2000 A6 2.7T Tip, with 89K miles on it.
Problem is I live in California, and every 2 years I need to get the car smogged.
What mods can I implement to gain performance, and yet pass the darn smog test?

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 4:50:15 PM

trapped

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Tons! The sky is the limit.... For example suspension, you can lower it put sways and new shocks and get a very sporty ride, You can do the tip chip, put on a lip spoiler, wheels, hella taillights. Thoes will not even mess with the engine at all. Then you can start on the engine, you could chip it... APR or GIAC chips are most popular and will get you about 318 hp. APR lets you switch back to stock or even valet and limit the speed making the smog test easier. (I use stock when i get emissons tested so the insurance i less... :) woops.) Then you can update diverter valves, new tbb, then get a K&N filter, but keep the stock one to drop in when you get it tested. Thoes are just a few basic mods that have been talked about and beaten to death on this forum....Now that you have a basic picture search the crap out of the fourm and you'll know everying you need!

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 5:17:41 PM

zippy_gg

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Thx Trapped! My car already has the lip spoiler from the PO.
The DVs and TBB are a given since they won't affect the smog test. I have researched the APR and GIAC chips, but the question I have is: do I NEED to modify the exhaust to benefit from the chip? CA is such a pain when it comes to EPA rules and many exhaust mods will have one fail the smog test.
Also my best option for octane here is 91 (no 93 or higher...

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 5:50:04 PM

joetm

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no "need" to but i put an exhaust on mine and i have the giac file and it feels a little bit healthier ... pressure is the main issue but you should be fine with stock ... the exhaust i got doesnt even sound that much louder except for when i really punch it and im up at 4000+ rpm

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 5:55:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: zippy_gg

Thx Trapped! My car already has the lip spoiler from the PO.
The DVs and TBB are a given since they won't affect the smog test. I have researched the APR and GIAC chips, but the question I have is: do I NEED to modify the exhaust to benefit from the chip? CA is such a pain when it comes to EPA rules and many exhaust mods will have one fail the smog test.
Also my best option for octane here is 91 (no 93 or higher...).

I just got the APR chip ($599) done and i would have to say it is pretty amazing.... while using the tiptronic you can feel the old 250 HP at 3-4.5 Rpms.. and a new toy from there ;)... I would hold off on the exhaust right now and go for diverters(two = $ 250 - 320 pending on quality)!!!!... This is a big part in the protection of the ko3's. Don't worry about the TBB for now aswell, that is a part that you watch over time. I have been asking around and you should really just get the RSko4's around 3k (which support 250Hp PER TURBO!!) and exhaust (1,300) at the same time. That way you will get the perfect exhaust for the perfrect turbos. Currently i am changing some belts / intercooler and some other minor things to get that extra horse power (around $500). Hopefully within the next month i will be sitting at 350-360 HP. I am a 20 year old with a big boys toy ;) hope this helps

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 5:58:33 PM

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aswell you can request that your boost is turned up. They will have to ask APR about it :-X! I am waiting for an answer currently. Is there any other way to change the boost lvl?

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 6:40:27 PM

joetm

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first off k04s to install properly and get the 100+ hp (not near 250hp) is like 6-8 grand in parts plus 30 hours labor

when you buy that kit for 6-8 grand ull get manifolds fuel pump injectors turbos inlet pipes etc etc ... then u need downpipes and exhaust aswell as new hoses to support the boost ... its an expensive way to go but if u got about 8 grand get it done because when youre at that level youve pretty much done everything mod-wise

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 7:09:13 PM

trapped

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Ok, first No you shouldn't have to change any exhaust features to get the benifits. I am stock w/chip and the car is great. I'm sure with traffic the way it is in CA 318 hp should be plenty...

wammy yes, you can change the turbo levels through a MBC (Manual Boost Controller) I belive it plugs into the vag-com port and they are offerd by GIAC.

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Planned: S6 Door Blades, Rs6 trunk lip, Custom Exhaust... Or Trade for S4!

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 7:52:13 PM

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thanks trapped

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/18/2008 8:02:19 PM

joetm

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mbc control is hooked up through hoses and done manually in respect to you constanlty checking the boost gauge

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/20/2008 12:16:16 PM

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What do I get next? With the apr chip/diverters changed I am looking for my next upgrade/mod?

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/20/2008 3:21:11 PM

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TBB isnt really needed ... how much money are you looking to spend ... youve pretty much completed the most cost effective mods ... id say call vast performance in MI and ship them your TCU and they can put 1 or 3 different files on it ... its a good mod bc it will allow your trans to manage the power youve gained from the chip

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/20/2008 4:30:47 PM

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intresting

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/20/2008 5:31:33 PM

trapped

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Yeah the tip chip is highly recomended, I might end up making a road trip up there over the summer to get piggies and the tip chip.

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Planned: S6 Door Blades, Rs6 trunk lip, Custom Exhaust... Or Trade for S4!

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/21/2008 4:17:21 AM

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yah i don't know about the piggies but the tip chip def sounds good :p I lost to an STI by half a car and beat a lexus 460 (8 cyl) :p

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/21/2008 6:23:05 AM

joetm

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vast piggies are a great piece for the price... they keep the exhaust temp down and you yield results from dropped turbo temps and that will also increase teh lifespan of your turbos ... id say do either one but the tip chip will give u the neck snapping results

after those two mods ... get a samco hose kit boost gauge and a MBC

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/21/2008 8:39:53 AM

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Definitely go with the PIggies even before the tip chip! It is a great mod, and proven. YOu'll get 20-30lbs tq from it and more reliability, less heat behind the turbos.
MBC won't work wioth APR chip

I just got my stg3 tip chip from VAST (See my other thread about car in the shop) installed yesterday
It is not working, gotta remove it, throwing cell, tranny stuck in 4th and lost tiptronic.. I think it is in limp mode. Some settings were too aggressive it seems for the computer
So they shipped a stg2 chip that I need to install on the TCU as a temporary solution, he is custom tunning another stage 3 chip that my computer won't reject

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/21/2008 10:10:49 AM

joetm

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so many problems with these chips!

gigi i still dont have mine done yet ... its been like a month and a half

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RE: 2001 a6 2.7T Tiptronic NEED HELP WITH MODS - 3/21/2008 11:02:39 AM

trapped

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I wonder if the Agressive Stage3 just won't work with the smooth APR chip

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Planned: S6 Door Blades, Rs6 trunk lip, Custom Exhaust... Or Trade for S4!

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