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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/23/2008 1:20:46 PM   
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Yeah. I had it coming on at 7-8 PSI and then hitting full at 15 PSI.

josh


i guess you see 7psi by 1800rpms then.  If so, then its normal

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/23/2008 2:36:53 PM   
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almost done installing mine  jsut gotta hook up the controller....found a better spot to mount the pump...its about the same area  but i think anybody not using the stock airbox will have to do it my way....and move your boost machine if ypou have one.....i will post pics later.....also jettared...when you installed your filter you had the arrow facing the up(where it says to carb) and going to the inlet on the pump....correct?


Yes.  The picture is a little misleading.  The tube runs under the pump to the inlet side.  The order is washer tank to filter to pump to checkvalve/nozzle.  The filter is between the washer tank and pump.  The reason is because if you put it on the outlet side of the pump, it'll probably blow it apart.  I don't think the filter is rated for 150 psi. 


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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/23/2008 6:11:59 PM   
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go it all done and gonna go out and tune...wish me luck...im using lemiwinks
will post pics in the next few days...pretty easy install 


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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/23/2008 7:21:37 PM   
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It's been 1 hour 20 minutes already.  What's happening?

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/23/2008 7:59:46 PM   
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ok some things....before i tuned anything i thought it be a good idea to make sure everything works i have the low setting at 11psi and that works ok...and max at 18psi...well the LED is green at 11 then gets bright green past 11 psi till around 15-18 psi and then the yellow led goes flashing steady....this was done wot through gears.....i then tried something i thought would give a different result(and it did) i was in 6th gear and floored it....11 psi ....green....past 11psi bright green....max psi still just bright green...NO YELLOW....its weird...im pretty sure all my wiring is correct...and i did solder the map sensor wire and if that was bad i dont think the controller would know where the boost is and wouldnt turn green...etc.....im lost any ideas?

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/23/2008 9:11:00 PM   
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Hey look on the bright side, your engine didn't blow up!

I look forward to seeing your logs and whatnot.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 1:23:04 AM   
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OK.  Give the engine time to adapt.  The very first couple of runs I saw less boost, especially in the higher gears.  Now it's ok.  Do you have a boost gauge?  what did it say?

Remember, your engine is seeing different conditions and needs a little time to adapt.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 4:17:55 AM   
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Adjust your max boost levels lower until you get it to come on (yellow) and hold.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 6:01:03 AM   
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PaintBallGuy,

I would think that you could replace the head gasket without pulling the engine.  If the piston or rings are damaged, then you may need to.  But I've not worked on a 2.7T, so I'm not sure.  If valves are damaged (and I don't know why they would be), then you could repair them with the head off.

Let us know what's happening.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 7:30:53 AM   
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Yeah i will. We are pretty sure the rings are fried or at least a few of them are. There are some small metal shavings in the oil We will see whats going on once we pull the engine. Hopefully start sat night and then finish up sunday. Not sure yet though.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 5:40:02 PM   
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well i guess i was worried fo nothing...yet we are still gonna confirm with chance of devils own  but i guess what i am experencing is normal operation...the instructions were a little confusing on that

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 6:44:57 PM   
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well i guess i was worried fo nothing...yet we are still gonna confirm with chance of devils own  but i guess what i am experencing is normal operation...the instructions were a little confusing on that


Here's the response from Devil's: http://www.alcohol-injection.com/forum/technical-questions/blinking-leds-need-clarification-1421.html#post6753

Basically, steady (full) yellow is ok; blinking or flashing yellow is not.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 7:02:39 PM   
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hmmm idk if he means while u approach the 95 percent....basically..can fault mode happen while the green LED is on??? that would help with this...and i mean the yellow only comes on while the green is lit...but also...say im in 6th gear and reach the full boost i get no yellow light from what i can remember    urrgggh

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/24/2008 7:06:50 PM   
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That can happen if you are not holding boost above the "full on" threshold.  Set the "full on" at around 15 psi and see if you have a problem then.

I think if you have a bona fide fault, the yellow light would start a steady blinking.  Don't know if the green has to be on first.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 5:55:40 AM   
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ok finally i have some better results seems it had to adjust...now ok this is whats happening....i have the first knob(light injection) set at around 7psi and the max(second knob 100 percent injection) set at around 15 psi...once i get around the 7psi the green LED lights up, then close to the 15psi it gets bright green while the yellow LED flickers a little and once im around that max setting 15psi and above the yellow LED stays lit....no flash or flicker...

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 6:54:34 AM   
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Yep.  That's right.  I got a posting from Dvldoc who said most people set the full (max) setting to be about 3/4 of their peak boost.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 7:00:43 AM   
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good deal   now i jsut gotta tune...lol the fun begins...since im using lemmiwinks cuz unisettings doesnt work for some reason...what did your timing look like with that giac chip before u started tuning?


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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 7:09:00 AM   
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Don't know.  Never measured it.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 7:24:41 AM   
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http://www.alcohol-injection.com/forum/off-topic-discussion/water-injection-run-regular-fuel-1254.html

THIS IS VERY INTERESTING....i might try putting in the 87oct fuel and see what happens...i did noticed with out touching my boost controller that the boost raised about 3 psi....i had it maxed at 19-20  now its 22-23 psi....

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 7:28:05 AM   
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Yeah, but don't mess with your timing yet if you are going to run 87 octane.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 7:28:54 AM   
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and jetta what i meant was  how did the program display your timing> before TDC? or what did u change...u used unisetting didnt you? i know lemmiwinks will work tho...i havnt booted lemmiwinks in a while and im at wrk just trying to get a head start for when i get home after class....

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 7:43:56 AM   
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Oh, using lemmiwinks or Unisetting, find the timing setting (Channel 9) and increase it to three degrees.  Each increment is .75 degrees, so the end value for 3 degrees is Channel 09: 0x04 (from 0x00).

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 7:52:11 AM   
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gotcha  thats all i needed...thanks again...is that what u have yours on?> or did u go 0x05  and u started by going 0x01  0x02  etc  etc till u got where u are now the 0x04? since u cant get an even 4  its either  3degrees or 3.75 degrees or 4,5 degrees=0x06???   this was the method i was gonna use and then use vag com to see when the timing was being pulled and use the butt dyno to feel when its pretty strong...but i do know i dont wanna go pst 4-5 degrees  lol


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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 8:01:05 AM   
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I started at 0x01, 0x02...and stopped at 0x04.  I have not gone higher than that.  If I do, I may want to lower my boost a bit.  It would be interesting to see if power increases.  Sometimes my car feels faster with 12 psi than it does at 20 psi.

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RE: Group Buy Water/meth - 4/25/2008 8:04:14 AM   
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i feel ya on that...it does feel like the powerband got longer but u feel it sooner now..

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