I do not know how they will effect turbocharged engines. I am giving away my age a bit but my father had some old Chevy muscle cars with heavily modified V8's and I know he used STP oil treatment, but the engine was still naturally aspirated. You may want to consult their website.
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I don't know about the STP Brand, but I have used Slick 50 in a couple of Nissans in the past. Most recently I've used Z Max engine and fuel additive in my BMW 328 and my Audi 2.7T. With both products I have noticed improvements in fuel mileage and a quieter running engine. Never had any problems with leaks, but my main concern is just the added protection against wear...escpecially in the Turbo Car.
ThankS! Sorry I wasn't more specific... Wondered if the Gas Treatment and intake cleaners stuff really works or if it is hard on the car. I have been told that they are bad for the car but if they don't hurt and maybe help I would dump some in every so often.
I don't have a turbo [next car] yet. It is a 2.8 A6.
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I did seafoam for direct intake pour, gas tank and oil treatment. I have to say it really smoothed out the car. I can't speak for STP because I never tried it.
I did seafoam for direct intake pour, gas tank and oil treatment. I have to say it really smoothed out the car. I can't speak for STP because I never tried it.
HXGASER,
I have heard that this stuff works pretty well. I believe you can pour this directly into your gas tank or into your throttle body. Is that correct?
If you would not mind, explain in some detail how it smoothed out your car.
Thanks for your input!
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well you run your car after you let it sit for about 5 minutes and then all this white smoke (carbon and other crap getting burnt up) comes out of your exhaust for about 5-10 mins and i just drove around to give it some throttle .... my car was already running pretty smooth i just seafoamed bc i was replacing the fuel filter and i would have rather done it while the old one was in there then when the new one was
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well you run your car after you let it sit for about 5 minutes and then all this white smoke (carbon and other crap getting burnt up) comes out of your exhaust for about 5-10 mins and i just drove around to give it some throttle .... my car was already running pretty smooth i just seafoamed bc i was replacing the fuel filter and i would have rather done it while the old one was in there then when the new one was
Joetm,
Whats up buddy! So you do pour this directly in your throttle body. Are you saying that you removed the Bi-pipe and TBB from the throttle body to perform this? I am just trying to get the facts because if it works, I want to do this!
Thanks in advance!
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Yes, I did look at the net, found some contradictory things, I just wanted to find some first hand info by peopel who have used various products tosee if it would help mileage and prevent buildup. If it helps prevent build up and maybe increase mileage then I am all for it.
Don't put that garbage into your car.....any of it. If you use a high quality oil and use a high quality gasoline with detergent additives (most name brands are fine) you won't need that stuff.
I have never seen any TRUE independent lab testing that has ever found any of those products to have any lasting effects. Many of them just act like oil thinners so sure your car might seem like it is running better but you are also losing protection. A few claim to improve mileage but only last for one tank full, and if you factor the cost of the additive against the fuel savings, 99% of the time you will find you actually lose money on the deal.
Thanks but no thanks. I see a new "magic" additive hit the market every year or two and none of them have any staying power. When Consumer Reports or some other reputable source finds one of them that actually performs well maybe I will listen, but until then I'm keeping them away from my engine.
It has never harmed any of my vehicles- I also own a '87 Wrangler 4.2 Carb and the idle was perfect after SeaFoaming- Since I am driving the not so modifiable barn burning 2.8 I use Reg Octane (high miles too)- I use Sea Foam as a prevent every 6 months, plus it takes the moisture out of the fuel in the cooler climate where I live- I don't use it for gained fuel mileage. If I get better MPG then it's a Bonus- I traveled 850 miles over the last 2.5 weeks (hwy/City) and got 21 mpg- Ave 39 mph. Also note, I do not use this in my newer cars '05 XC90 or '07 Odyssey. Warning: If you pour it into your crankcase don't let it stay in there more than 10min at idle- change your oil as you could damage internals due to the lack of protection- just as Costner mentioned.
I have heard that this stuff works pretty well. I believe you can pour this directly into your gas tank or into your throttle body. Is that correct?
If you would not mind, explain in some detail how it smoothed out your car.
Thanks for your input!
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Here is what I did. I bought 2 cans of the stuff.
First I poured about half the can directly into the crankcase. Then I changed my oil about 200 miles later, since many claimed that Seafoam thins the oil and the oil looses the viscosity if you leave it too long.
Second, I directly poured about 3/4 can into the gas tank just before a fill up. Ran through the whole tank of gas and replaced the fuel filter. You should have seen the stuff in the fuel filter.
Third, I slowly poured about 3/4 of can into the intake directly. I disconnected the air intake hose from the filter housing to the throttle body, started the car and used a funnel to pour Seafoam into the throttle body very slowly. Your starts to idle funny and may die, but it's okay. Just restart and pour the rest into the intake. Caution, it will generate enough smoke from exhaust to cover the entire neighborhood. So I say you do this at an open air location. Then I changed my sparkplugs.
I guess the sparkplug thing was overkill, but I recommend that you change your oil and filter after about 150 to 200 miles and fuel filter after the tank of gas. Both are cheap and easy maintenance items.
Don't put that garbage into your car.....any of it. If you use a high quality oil and use a high quality gasoline with detergent additives (most name brands are fine) you won't need that stuff.
I have never seen any TRUE independent lab testing that has ever found any of those products to have any lasting effects. Many of them just act like oil thinners so sure your car might seem like it is running better but you are also losing protection. A few claim to improve mileage but only last for one tank full, and if you factor the cost of the additive against the fuel savings, 99% of the time you will find you actually lose money on the deal.
Thanks but no thanks. I see a new "magic" additive hit the market every year or two and none of them have any staying power. When Consumer Reports or some other reputable source finds one of them that actually performs well maybe I will listen, but until then I'm keeping them away from my engine.
I am not an independent lab or a scientist by any mean. But after seafoam, I did notice difference and it was not just in my brain. Even my wife, who never cares about the car noticed the difference in my car.
Considering the crap that was deposited in my fuel filter, I say it does work.
ORIGINAL: hxgaser I am not an independent lab or a scientist by any mean. But after seafoam, I did notice difference and it was not just in my brain. Even my wife, who never cares about the car noticed the difference in my car.
Considering the crap that was deposited in my fuel filter, I say it does work.
You very well may see a difference, but in your previous post you mentioned you changed your spark plugs, fuel filter, and had an oil change after using seafoam, so what is to say those weren't the items that made the difference?
As to the crap in your fuel filter - how are you to know how much was in it before using seafoam? For all you know, that crap was already there from years of use and you are making the assumption it was due to seafoam. The only way to know for sure is to change your filter - run a tank with the seafoam treatment, and then change it again. I sincerely doubt anyone has tried that - and it is the only sure fire way to validate it does jack squat.
As to the smoke that poured out of your car when you poured it in - are you suggesting that is a GOOD thing? Burning smoke means residue....and residue is exactly what you are trying to get rid of. Again....thanks but no thanks.
Everyone can make their own decisions, but I've never heard any reputable research backing any of this garbage up. There are a thousand products on the market that all claim to do the same things yet none of them can be proven to really make a difference. For all intents and purposes they are nothing more than snake oil in my opinion. I chalk this up to those studies that show people tend to think their cars run better when clean. It isn't that the car runs better when clean or worse when dirty - it is just a mental perception thing, and when clean on the outside people associate that with clean on the inside, thus they perceive an improvement.
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I would not use an oil additive - Mobil1 is damn good stuff by itself. But I do add an occasional bottle of "fuel injector cleaner" to the gas. They're all pretty much the same, with the heavily marketed ones more expensive (of course). Does it do any good? BSOM. But it hasn't hurt.
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