RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip??????
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/9/2008 7:08:36 AM
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zippy_gg
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Not really difficult since most the components can be accessed from the top and the passenger side headlight has to be removed.
Take a lok at these very clear instructions and determine if it is something you want to do yourself. http://www.goapr.com/Audi/support/bipipe_installation.pdf
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/9/2008 9:49:36 AM
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Slurm
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Hey, thanks for the link!
That looks pretty easy. Ill probably pick one up when I get my economic stimulis check. =P
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/9/2008 10:16:03 AM
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zippy_gg
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Hey, thanks for the link!
That looks pretty easy. Ill probably pick one up when I get my economic stimulis check. =P
I think you should get the piggies first, as they cost the same as the bipipe, and you will get more benefits out of them. The installation however seems very involved. Instead of the bipipe I ordered the Samco TBB for about $70.00 and it should last a lifetime.
I am looking for a link with the steps required.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/9/2008 10:49:12 AM
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Slurm
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i was thinking of getting the piggies and the ecu tuning at the same time and having Vast install the piggies while im there, but that will most likely not happen until next spring. But i figured i could get the bi pipe, new DVs and a drop in filter for now.
Dont you have to send your DP's back to Vast to get 300 bucks back (to make them 350)? I figured i could save some shipping by just driving up, and im not sure if i have the proper equipment to install them myself.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/9/2008 11:32:53 AM
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zippy_gg
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You are right on shipping your stock piggies back to VAST, so yes you could save a bit by driving to them and having them perform the install for you.
Fow what I have read the drop in filter doesn't get you much, so you may want to focus on the low hanging fruit first: DV ($75.00 for 2 x 710n), TBB ($75.00 for a Samco), APR chip $600 for an APR), new plugs ($75 for a set of 6 NGK Platinum). These should be done kinda together so you'll run trouble-free. Then the piggies should be next... about $400 + install (several hours @ $xx.00 each).
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/11/2008 9:40:58 PM
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white fish
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K&N filter is bad for MAF
O2 relocate is better the a CEL reset software (you gas milage will go out the window)
any metal DV will give you the woosh sound you are looking for (blow offs are a bad idea)
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/12/2008 12:35:59 PM
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zippy_gg
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So if you have to change the filter anyway why not put one it you will never have to change.
You never have to REPLACE it but... you still need to clean and oil it just as you would otherwise put in a new stock filter.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/12/2008 12:47:13 PM
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Slurm
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Yeah i think you only need to oil it like every 50,000 miles?
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/12/2008 3:24:29 PM
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Any recomendations on the TBB? I'm considering the Samco TBB. How's the APR Bipipe?
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/12/2008 5:59:11 PM
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Slurm
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Any recomendations on the TBB? I'm considering the Samco TBB. How's the APR Bipipe?
Someone correct me if im wrong but basically:
If your on more of a budget or would just rather save a few hundred bucks, get the Samco. If you want a rock solid part (not that the Samco isnt) and have expendable income, get the BiPipe.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/12/2008 8:21:30 PM
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Back to the matter of Chip tuning:
If i take my car in to get the APR chip (for example), I would be paying 599 bucks, plus if i wanted the flipswitch (wheres that go anyways? vag-com?) im adding another 150 bucks for 2 programs (1 stock and 1 93 octane) and im adding the fault code erase/TB alignment for another 50 dollars.
Im up to 800 dollars for a chip tune, and since im taking it to someone they would charge me like....100 for the install?
Also: since I have tiptronic, what happens to my current sport mode when I chip? Will it no longer make a diff whether I have the car in D or S (it'd be cool if throwing it in S would be what initiated the higher octane software, but i realize that needs done on startup)? AND since I have tip, could I do the apr chip AND later do the giac tip chip for faster shifting, or would that yield incompatibility with the software?
If a hummingbird is flying at 11 kmph going south and.....perhaps i've asked enough questions already....
I know im probably asking ubernoob questions, but i just want to know how this whole thing goes down and how much money I need to set aside.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/13/2008 2:15:47 PM
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so i have a 2001 audi a6 2.7 and if i got
DV, Samco TBB, APR ECU, and a K&N filter then later piggie dp's
i should be okay right?
why is not worth getting cold air intake on this car?
any idea what the 0-60 or 1/4 mile would be after all this is done?
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/13/2008 9:28:38 PM
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formulagigi
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so i have a 2001 audi a6 2.7 and if i got
DV, Samco TBB, APR ECU, and a K&N filter then later piggie dp's
i should be okay right?
why is not worth getting cold air intake on this car?
any idea what the 0-60 or 1/4 mile would be after all this is done?
YOu will be fine and you should be at 340+ crank hp ~400lbs TQ Iam guessing (with piggies). I would definitely do the piggies, not only do they had power and torque, but they also help reduce heat build up ebhind the turbos, therefore increasing reliability.
Add an exhaust and you are what is caled stage2+.
0-60 varies from car to car I noticed from various posts and also 6pd seem to be faster by 1/2 sec it seems.
If you are a tip stage 2+, I would guess you'd be at 5-5.5 sec to 60mph, 13.5-14.5 sec dpedning on your 60ft and how well you can drive your car. Launching the tip is tricky.
The VAST tip chip would help shave a few tenths I think.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/13/2008 9:33:14 PM
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Back to the matter of Chip tuning:
If i take my car in to get the APR chip (for example), I would be paying 599 bucks, plus if i wanted the flipswitch (wheres that go anyways? vag-com?) im adding another 150 bucks for 2 programs (1 stock and 1 93 octane) and im adding the fault code erase/TB alignment for another 50 dollars.
Im up to 800 dollars for a chip tune, and since im taking it to someone they would charge me like....100 for the install?
Also: since I have tiptronic, what happens to my current sport mode when I chip? Will it no longer make a diff whether I have the car in D or S (it'd be cool if throwing it in S would be what initiated the higher octane software, but i realize that needs done on startup)? AND since I have tip, could I do the apr chip AND later do the giac tip chip for faster shifting, or would that yield incompatibility with the software?
If a hummingbird is flying at 11 kmph going south and.....perhaps i've asked enough questions already....
I know im probably asking ubernoob questions, but i just want to know how this whole thing goes down and how much money I need to set aside.
{Quote from trapped: No worries I recently had this done. The apr chip cam be installed at a dealer for free. It gets loaded through the obd port. Then to switch programs you hold the cruse control button for a few seconds and it switches. Its easy I'm not sue if you pay for install with the switch but to load programs should be free. I would still consider buying GIAC i love my apr, but it is smooth and I like that kick in the ass from GIAC chip}
To the above I would say that not all models/years can be loaded with the software via the OBD port, sometimes the chip has to be physically installed/soldered. Also some shops do charge a small install fee for the chip for their tech time.
As for your tiptronic question, the ECU chip has NOTHING to do with your Sport mode. They'll remain as his.
if you do the VAg COM TIP recode (32) though, your D mode becomes essentially like your S mode.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/13/2008 9:34:46 PM
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Right on, but I hear that even stage 3 cars run samco and the bipipe's build quality is going down hill. I was seriously considering tv bipipe untill I read about someone who's bipipe broke. I figure the samco will hold up and even it it breaks its still not 300 bucks
Have has the bipipe for 2+ years and 20K+ miels, no issues to speak of. Quality is fine. And I am sure there is a warranty.
I like my bipipe.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/13/2008 9:38:44 PM
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K&N filter is bad for MAF
O2 relocate is better the a CEL reset software (you gas milage will go out the window)
any metal DV will give you the woosh sound you are looking for (blow offs are a bad idea)
Have had a K&N filter on my A6 since NOv 05 and no issues at all. My friend has one on his A6 too, no issues. he had one on his B5 S4, no issues. Many more have them...
The only problem is when someone removes them to clean them and uses too much oil and don't remove the excess before re-install. User error, not a K&N filter issue.
Also I have metal Dvs and have no woosh sound.. got robbed, uh :) I think a CAI would increase that sound. I really don't hear much of anything form the DVs. I ahve had Hyperboost metal DVs and APR R1's. No sound from either set.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/13/2008 9:45:28 PM
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Dont you have to send your DP's back to Vast to get 300 bucks back (to make them 350)? I figured i could save some shipping by just driving up, and im not sure if i have the proper equipment to install them myself.
yes and no. there are two ways you can do this if you are not local to them:
1- Send them your own cores on Monday (think I paid $25), Mike at VAST gets them Wednesday morning, will turn them into piggies (gutting them, relocasting O2 bungs pass the precats, and fixing what he thinks needs to be touched up i.e. flanges) same day and return them to you, so Friday you get them back (priced is SHIPPED) and get your shop to install them unless you can DIY it.
2- They send you done pigggies and you pay the prioce plus CORE fee of 300, then you return your cores once you shop (or you) has installed the "used new" piggies.
I did option 1 and paid $335 or 345 then all in and I felt better using my own cored rather than someone else's. My choice plus I did not liek having t front the extra $300, which I'd rather spend on install right away.
If you are local or can drive there, then no issues.
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/14/2008 6:33:27 AM
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Slurm
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ORIGINAL: Slurm
Back to the matter of Chip tuning:
If i take my car in to get the APR chip (for example), I would be paying 599 bucks, plus if i wanted the flipswitch (wheres that go anyways? vag-com?) im adding another 150 bucks for 2 programs (1 stock and 1 93 octane) and im adding the fault code erase/TB alignment for another 50 dollars.
Im up to 800 dollars for a chip tune, and since im taking it to someone they would charge me like....100 for the install?
Also: since I have tiptronic, what happens to my current sport mode when I chip? Will it no longer make a diff whether I have the car in D or S (it'd be cool if throwing it in S would be what initiated the higher octane software, but i realize that needs done on startup)? AND since I have tip, could I do the apr chip AND later do the giac tip chip for faster shifting, or would that yield incompatibility with the software?
If a hummingbird is flying at 11 kmph going south and.....perhaps i've asked enough questions already....
I know im probably asking ubernoob questions, but i just want to know how this whole thing goes down and how much money I need to set aside.
{Quote from trapped: No worries I recently had this done. The apr chip cam be installed at a dealer for free. It gets loaded through the obd port. Then to switch programs you hold the cruse control button for a few seconds and it switches. Its easy I'm not sue if you pay for install with the switch but to load programs should be free. I would still consider buying GIAC i love my apr, but it is smooth and I like that kick in the ass from GIAC chip}
To the above I would say that not all models/years can be loaded with the software via the OBD port, sometimes the chip has to be physically installed/soldered. Also some shops do charge a small install fee for the chip for their tech time.
As for your tiptronic question, the ECU chip has NOTHING to do with your Sport mode. They'll remain as his.
if you do the VAg COM TIP recode (32) though, your D mode becomes essentially like your S mode.
So does this mean the Sport mode becomes pointless?
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RE: Got 2.7t A6 wich chip?????? - 4/14/2008 9:39:26 AM
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yes or redundant, which is fine by me. Who cares, really... D is kinda crappy anyway and doesn't save $ in gas. I did a week comparo driving in S only...
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