Ok, I am at a complete loss right now with my car. I just did some work on it and now it is running like crap. Before I did the work on it it ran fine. Here is what I did:

1. Replaced all 6 spark plugs with NGK BKR7E's gapped to .028.
2. Installed a GIAC-X ECU (This I did before yesterday and it ran fine).
3. Installed a Water/Meth Kit.

So now that thats out of the way here is what happened.

Last night when I finished the water meth kit install I started the car and it ran great. No problems at all. Then I started to get one or 2 random misfires while I was dialing in the water/meth system. I figured it was just from a bad setting. They went away and all was well for another 10 min or so. THen it started to mis while I was idling. It would miss for about 30 sec or so then quite for a while then come back again. It was getting late so I went to bed and and decided to tackle the problem today.

Well today came and I looked around a bit and saw that another person was having missing problems because of a dirty check valve on the W/M kit so it was leaking w/m into the intake during idle. Well I took the check valve out and opened it up and its fine. Put it back in and still have the problems. Except now I don't have brakes and it misses all the time. It's cylinders 2,3, and 6. They are missing at all RPM ranges. I have taken the spark plugs out and checked them. They were a little wet but not bad so I put them back in. Still misses. I have checked the brake booster line to see if it had come off but it is still attached. Now I am completely stuck. I have even switched out the stock ECU for the Chipped one and it still didn't do anything.

How do you do a pressure test on the 2.7T? I am running out of time to figure this out. I need my car tomorrow. Anyone with any ideas at all please LMK so I can try it out.

Oh and do you think it's possible for 3 of the 6 coilpacks to die all at the exact same time?

Josh

*********EDIT**********
PROBLEM FOUND... NOT SO GOOD!

UMMM..............


So I don't know if anyone else did this wrong too... BUT I figured out what cause all my problems and it WAS in fact the W/M Kit.....

Here is what happened... When i was installing the W/M kit the nozzles have that little screen thing on them... WELL I guess those are NOT supposed to be put into the air stream... SO thats right apparently I put the nozzles' in upside-down and you guessed it one came off and got sucked through the engine... THUS bending an intake valve, destroying a piston and possibly the turbo... We can't see the turbo however so don't know for sure...

SO if anyone else made the stupid mistake like me of installing the nozzle upside-down, SWITCH IT ASAP!!!!!!!!

I called Devils own and they said "Sorry... we can't do anything..." It would have been nice if they showed some instructions on how the nozzle is supposed to me mounted for people like me who have not done one of these setups before.

SO yeah... this freaking freaking freaking sucks.

BTW, the Head Gasket is fine. [>:]

Josh

First things first, make absolutely sure that check valve is back facing the right way!

With that out of the way, rule out any vacuum/boost leaks or similar around the brake booster, or wherever else might have been touched.

For pressure testing, here's is AWE's take on it:
http://www.awe-tuning.com/media/pdf/27t_pressure_tester.pdf

Good luck.

my god man, I don't know what to tell you, yeah i guess three coil packs could go at the same time, if the car is missing it will crack the coil packs, look at them top and bottom to see if they cracked. The brakes went out? Wtf? If I was you I would rip that w/m kit off there in a hurry and see if you bumped anything, I have know idea about w/m kits and what they do or affect. Hope you can figure this out, I know alot, but your problems just aren't related. The only thing I can see from my standpoint is your w/m kit thing.

I am 99.999999% sure it's not the W/m kit. I have it completely disabled and it is not fixing anything. I did not see any cracks on the coilpacks. I am just finishing up with a pressure test and so far can not find anything. I am then going to move the ICM's around and see if the misfires follow them.

Josh

Did you touch any of the sensors on the airbox or move the airbox?

Yeah I had to take the airbox completely off.

Josh

Ok, Just swapped the ICM's around and I am still getting misfires on the same... sort of... cylinders. I am getting misfires on 3,4, and 6 now instead of 2,3, and 6. Cylinder 3 seems to be the works. After about 15 sec of idle 3 had almost 200 misses while the others were around 20-30. I think I am going to switch some coil packs around now.

josh

Another update:

I jsut swapped some of the coil packs around and the misfires do NOT follow them. They are still missing the same place as before. I now seem to have a vac leak but I can not find it. According to the pressure test there were no leaks. Could there be one somewhere else? Or is it just because the engine is working harder to keep itself running thus making it so it looks like there is a leak? The vavuum reads about -8HG. Where should I look? I have looked at all the big hoses, checked all the little fittings and can't find anything.

Oh and I tried unpluggin the MAF and that didn't do anything either.

Josh

maybe you should try regaping the plugs back to stock at .30 and see what happens. i had this problem also along with my two o2 number ones went bad, i changed that and they went back to working fine, also i am gaped at .30 and have a giac profile.

Make sure you have stock plugs in the car on stock gap and double check the sensors on top of the airbox. make sure they are all snapped on tight.

Wait, you want me to put my old plugs back in there? I know a few guys that are running the NGK's that I am using and don't have any problems. THey are gapped to .028 as well. It ran perfect or a while then just quite. I have checked, and rechecked the ICM's as well.

Josh

yeh my car runs fine on the bkr7e's at .028

yeah i know cars do run fine at .28 gap but i was jsut saying try the bigger gap and see what happens if you are still getting the same problems. Or maybe all hell broke lose in your car and it wants ko4s lol *wish that was true*.

LOL, I hope it doesn't... or at least not yet... and besides, I am not putting K04's in my car. It's getting special treatment. Something a lot of people DON't do. ;)

Josh

ORIGINAL: ThePaintballGuy

LOL, I hope it doesn't... or at least not yet... and besides, I am not putting K04's in my car. It's getting special treatment. Something a lot of people DON't do. ;)

Josh


oh GT25r's then!! I see ;)

Nope, still wrong... possibly more details later.

josh

ok so I just tried moving the coil pack that was giving the most misfires, cylinder 3, and switched it with the one that was not missing much, cylinder 2. Guess what!?!?! Cylinder 3 still misses most. I am so confused! Maybe it's the spark plug fouled up so I am going to swap spark plugs next just to see if that does anything. If so then I will go and buy new ones... again... and see if that fixes my problems. I still can not find any boost leaks so I am guessing the low vac is due to the misfires. I will let you know whats going on as soon as I can get them all swapped around.

Josh

maybe you heads are getting wet cause you have a gasket leak (see if the plug is wet when it comes out) on the heads on that side and need to replace it, idk i would try that or run some seafoam threw it to clean it some what. you going to get some rs6 turbos those i hear are balls fast.

Ok, I just tried switching the spark plugs and still no change. I now get misfires on 4 of the 6 cylinders. Here are the codes I just pulled:

VAG-COM Version: Release 409.1-S

Control Module Part Number: 8D0 907 551 J
Component and/or Version: 2.7l V6/5VT G 4000
Software Coding: 06751
Work Shop Code: WSC 06325
5 Faults Found:
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 35-00 - -
16687 - Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
P0303 - 35-00 - -
16690 - Cylinder 6 Misfire Detected
P0306 - 35-00 - -
16686 - Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected
P0302 - 35-00 - -
16689 - Cylinder 5 Misfire Detected
P0305 - 35-00 - -


As you can see it's the back 4 cylinders. The front 2 are fine. What else could be causing this? I am so lost right now. I want to burn my car.

And no. No RS6 turbos. Looking into doing a single GT35 or something along those lines. Please don't turn this thread into that though. I will make another post later about it.

Josh

Hey, what is this? It's coming off the coolant expansion tank. Doens't look like it goes anywhere?

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9700/0421082104bk1.jpg

Just tried it with the new plugs and still am misfiring. No change at all... Not even the slightest. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

So... I think I am done for tonight.

Any more ideas? I am going to be towing it to a buddies shop tomorrow to see if we can figure it out there.

Josh

Just checked my car for that hose but couldn't really see much, looks like a hose or two runs underneath the coolant resevoir, and they appear linked to either PCV and/or brake booster but I could be wrong.

Can't get pics ATM but that hose is definitely suspect! And if that's your brake booster hose, well there's your problem lol!

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p12/JettaRedII/Audi/S4coolanttank2002.jpg

Pretty sure it's just an overflow tank. It's number 15 in the picture above.

Josh

OK so just to make it easier on everyone here is a list of everything I have tried with the outcome of each test:

1. Checked W/M check valve - clean, still having misfire problems.
2. Completely disconnected the W/M kit - still having misfire problems.
3. Switched Coilpacks around - still have misfire problems on same cylinders. Did not follow coilpacks.
4. Pulled and tested the ICM's - both are good (according to the test) and still have misfire problems.
5. Swapped ICM's - still misfiring on same cylinders
6. Swapped spark plugs around to see if misfires follow them - no go, misfires still on same cylinders as before.
7. Replaced all the spark plugs with new ones - still having misfires on same cylinders
8. Pressure test - could not find anything leaking. Still having misfires.
9. Visually inspected all all the vac lines - could not find anything. Still misfires.

I am pretty sure thats it.

Here is my list of what I am going to try again today when I get off work:

1. Disconnect the wire from the MAP sensor that goes to the W/M kit and see what happens.
2. Compression Test (If this fails I will be ROYALLY PISSED!!!!!)
3. Spray down the engine with soapy water and re-try the pressure test.
4. Check all fuses that have to do with fueling... I will probably check them all anyways.
5. Throw a freaking wrench.
6. Have it towed to a buddies shop and see if a fresh set of eyes can find anything.

If anyone has any other ideas of stuff for me to try please please please LMK. I am getting desperate.

Josh

That hose is just for overflow that you pictured. You may have burned some internals or something, you checked all the little things, I'm starting to believe its something big. How about the timing, what about the camshaft, crankshaft sensors?

EDIT!!! HOW could I have not seen this! Check the INJECTORS! It only makes sense.

How do i go about checking the injectors?

Josh

Oh and I am thinking that they might be giving to much fuel since the plugs are wet and not dry. So it's obviously getting fuel.

josh

BUMP FOR PROBLEM FOUND! Not so good.

See first post.

Josh

If you have 0 compression, you have to have a bad valve or few. Yes, you could of had a timing belt slip or strech that could of caused it. Auditech79 would have a better list of causes than me, he does own one also. Dont know if he is in this thread yet or not, but he needs to be

I don't think he is. I will PM him. Man this sucks BAD!!!!! I haven't even put my real license plates on the car yet!

Josh

Ok, Here are some logs I took. I am wondering if the controller for the W/M kit was bad. Look at how low the RPMs are when the IAT start to drop. I think the kit was injecting way before I built boost up. Possibly it was injecting as soon as I went to WOT?

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5336/iattempsal8.jpg

Any input?

josh

What's your mileage on your car and when was your timing belt last changed?

Woops edit, just reread the first post.

If your up to pulling the engine, do that. It should make it a little easier to work. Though, if you can tackle it with the engine in, go for it.

Called up the company who made the kit?

Not yet. I am going to do that tomorrow.

I am kind of thinking that my headgasket might have already been on it's way out. Over the last few weeks I have noticed a little bit of white smoke coming from the exhaust when the engine was cold. I figured it was just condensation but now that i look at it, with the outside air temps and whatnot I don't think it should have been doing that. Maybe the headgasket was leaking before but only when cold. Once it warmed up maybe the engine expanded enough to stop the leak or at least slow it down enough to make it so you could not see any smoke. IDK it's all speculation right now.

Josh

Have your posted this on Audiworld? Probably more technical responses! I dont know if AZ helped at all?
Good luck!!

hey i'll trade you my car plus 5g for your car? mine runs great hehehe. j/k i doubt you would do that anyways but it's the only suggestion i've got since you've done everything that i was going to says. as for the brakes, i think it's probably a vacuum issue.

I'm guessing you didn't see that the engine is blown up? That would cause all my problems.

Josh

ya i just saw that the head gasket blew. What is that going to cost?

Here is something else.
I had been getting a little bit of white smoke for a while (about 2 weeks or so) before this all happened. I am wondering if this was something that happened before and then it just so happened to go out because of the extra boost and whatnot...
blown head gasket would mean white smoke right? coolant leaking into the combustion chamber? There was not that much smoke though. Only on startup and for about 10 min after that. Maybe it was only a small leak at first so it was just seeping into the chambers overnight or when the engine was cold and once the engine heated up it sealed it enough for there not to be enough leaking to cause noticeable white smoke? Just thinking out loud right now.

Josh

If you don't trust the the technician you have I would recommend you to buy a crate engine instead of rebuilding a new one.
My guess it would be cheaper to get a crate engine but what do i know! :)
anyways good luck .. you need it

Josh if you have 0 compression you sometimes need to pull the piston for new rings and such. If I were you I would wank that thing out of there and then why your in there have all the motor work done and build yourself a solid long lasting motor. but I defintley recomend an engine pull your life should be a lot simpler. well good luck if it's just a head gasket you should be able to leave it in with out to many problems. I just like pulling motors so thats my first response.

So how difficult is it to pull the engine? I mean can I do it in a day or two?

Anyone have any good resources as to step by step or something like that?

Josh

go on audizine and look under the s4/rs4 forum theres a guy doing turbo swap and he has a pretty extensive diy for engine pull check it out.

oh and just for reference theres a guy i kow locally that can pull the engine and tranny in 2 hours lol it just depends on how good you are. and deff
check out the thread on audizine man very very extensive heres the link link (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180352)

good luck man and i have a fear that my head gasket is doing the same thing lol i have occasional smoke too but it goes of after awhile and i have a misfire in 2 4 and 6
so hopefully its not that and its just that my new k04's are deffective lol much easier to do those....... god sometimes i hate this car lol but i love it most of the time haha

ouch...sorry to hear about that Josh.... i am more leaning toward a cylinder head(crackede valve seal/valve)or head gasket rather than the block(piston rings)...from what i hear those blocks are bomb proof... does sound like you wil have to pull the engine... i have all the r&r info you'll need... pm me your email and i'll send it to you.

Awesome! Thanks!!!

PM Sent.

josh

here is where my car stands as of now. Did this in about 2 1/2 hours.

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-1.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-2.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-3.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-4.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-5.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-6.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-7.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-8.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-9.jpg

http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG_D2-10.jpg
My source of entertainment. XM radio online. WOO HOO

Josh

YEAH looks like fun! good luck with your repairs

Thanks.

Engine is almost out. Just need to unbolt the drive shaft and halfshafts. Then undo the engine and tranny mounts and then pull it!

Looks like I might be replacing a piston as well. [:@] A buddy came over today and looked into it and it looks like there was some pitting going on. Won't know for sure till it's all taken apart.

More pictures coming later tonight.

Josh

ko4's while the engines out? haha

HAHA I wish... I don't have that much money... and besides I am probably going to do a custom single BT in it :D. Thats a different thread though.

More Pictures:

1.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG.jpg
Radiator Support Off

2.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-2.jpg
One of the Tranny Cooler Lines

3.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-3.jpg
The other end of the tranny cooler hose.

4.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-4.jpg
Another picture of the front.

5.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-5.jpg
Intake mani with fuel lines removed on the left.

6.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-6.jpg
Closeup of Fuel Lines removed.

7.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-7.jpg
Another closeup.

8.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-8.jpg
Backside of the radiator. See all those little pink spots? Yeah, those are all small holes in it!!!!! >:(

9.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-9.jpg
An artistic picture of oil.

10.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-10.jpg
Another Artsy picture of old oil filter and a cooler.

11.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-11.jpg
Another oil pictures

12.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-12.jpg
Front with wiring harness all disconnected.

13.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-13.jpg
Close up of the wiring harness on top of engine.

14.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-14.jpg
Empty ECU box.

15.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-15.jpg
Closeup of harness

16.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-16.jpg
Closeup of front. See all the white stuff on the left side? Yeah... More coolant that leaked/sprayed out.

17.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-17.jpg
Parts taken off car already.

18.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-18.jpg
More Parts.

19.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-19.jpg
Tools

20.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-20.jpg
Tools and parts.

21.
http://www.jmlpictures.com/S4/HG-21.jpg
Random shot of wheel well.

Josh

nice pics, now would be a good timeto cleam or inter coolers unless you are getting new ones, jsut take some gas jsut a little and dumb it in the tank plu gone end and then plug the other end and swish it around and 20 mins later all the opil and shit is gone and clean ic's. drain gas and let dry for a day good as new.

is that a segway i see?

Ok, yeah I might have to do that.

And yes jeff, there are 2 segways in those pictures. :D

My dad started the first ever segway rental business in the world when they came out. It did catch on so my dad had to close it down but now they are everywhere.

Josh

keep up the good work Josh... and let me know if you need any other info ;)

Well... I have decided to take it to a shop. I just do not have the time to do this. My work schedule is ridiculous. So I towed it down to a shop this morning... And there she sits and waits. :(

Now my question is since I am having the shop do it, what all should I have him replace while they have the engine all torn apart. I would rather spend the money now and get stuff replaced BEFORE it breaks on me. I would like to do turbos but thats not going to happen right now. Any ideas?

Also anyone have any good recommendations as to a good wide-band O2 sensor and A/F gauge? Also how to hook it all up? I want to add one after all this crap so I can see whats going on A/F ratio wise. Thanks.

Here is my car... just sitting and waiting:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8752/0502080813kz6.jpg

Josh

Just have them replace gaskets and rubbers everywhere they go. get done preventivly what you can.

Man those are some great pics you posted. Just goes to show how damn compicated these engines are. Good luck with everything.

get a zietronix wideband system. it has afr, lamda, boost, and egt. also you can log all this on a computer. it also has a channel for loging other stuff like your new w/m injection system

I just ordered the Innovative Motorsports wideband O2 sensor package and gauge. I wish I had seen the other one first. LOL

Josh

is it too late to send it back and get the other one. both will work just fine though, only reason i got the zeitronix was because of the deal i got on it.

ORIGINAL: CamoA6

Just have them replace gaskets and rubbers everywhere they go. get done preventivly what you can.

Sorry im kind of late on this! 2nd^^
Also have them take a look at the mounts. It would be nice to swtich to rs4 or 034 street density mounts if you could.
How is the car done as of today??

OK,
I might look into that other O2 sensor. Looks expensive though. LOL

As for the car right now I think he is going to start taking it apart today. He says he will be able to do it without pulling the motor... so I guess we will see... can you switch those mounts around with the engine still in the car?

Josh

hopefully your motor is not tooooo messed up. If you have some spare cash, I would seriously conciderboring the motorout and increasing the displacement..!!!

Unless you have a guy who REALLY and I mean REALLY knows what he is doingand pretty muchreplaces nearly everything (all the rings, valves, guides, etcetc) ...your motor may never perform like it did or could.

wow... talk about a serious bummer...

It's not like the timing belt broke. All the valves and everything are ok (or at least he says they are and he wouldn't lie to me). If I do have more problems I will just sell it or PRAY that it gets totaled somehow. LOL

Josh

OK, here is an update... The car went under the knife yesterday. I went down to see how it was going and he is attempting to do the swap w/out pulling the engine out. He also said that my drivers side turbo is leaking a good amount of oil. HOWEVER the turbo is NOT making any bad noises, or at least it wasn't when I bought it. So my question is, what should I do with them???

Josh

get a credit card and two Ko4's :D


Ko4's in Josh's S4 = josh/:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D[sm=gears.gif]

HAHA... If I replace the turbo's it's going to be a single turbo setup.

Josh

P.S. I already am in the planning stages of it. :D

Josh

UMMM..............


So I don't know if anyone else did this wrong too... BUT I figured out what cause all my problems and it WAS in fact the W/M Kit.....

Here is what happened... When i was installing the W/M kit the nozzles have that little screen thing on them... WELL I guess those are NOT supposed to be put into the air stream... SO thats right apparently I put the nozzles' in upside-down and you guessed it one came off and got sucked through the engine... THUS bending an intake valve, destroying a piston and possibly the turbo... We can't see the turbo however so don't know for sure...

SO if anyone else made the stupid mistake like me of installing the nozzle upside-down, SWITCH IT ASAP!!!!!!!!

I called Devils own and they said "Sorry... we can't do anything..." It would have been nice if they showed some instructions on how the nozzle is supposed to me mounted for people like me who have not done one of these setups before.

SO yeah... this freaking freaking freaking sucks.

Josh

ouch...what a heart ache[X(].. hope it's gets better for you Josh

yeah that sucks man big time wish i could help you some how

I just got back from the shop and it is not good at all...

So far it destroyed a valve, the piston, and the turbo on that side has a LOT of play in the shaft... like a lot! It hits the side walls if you pull up on the shaft a bit and turn it.

The drivers side turbo is also on it's way out... it's leaking a good amount of oil. SO i think new turbo's is in the feature. I might even do my custom turbo setup now but I am not sure yet...

I will post pictures of the damage.

Josh

Here are some pictures of the damage... Can you guess which cylinder it was? And there is a bent valve but it's hard to see in the pictures.

Pics:

http://jmlpictures.com/upload/_.jpg

http://jmlpictures.com/upload/_-2.jpg

http://jmlpictures.com/upload/_-3.jpg

http://jmlpictures.com/upload/_-4.jpg

http://jmlpictures.com/upload/_-5.jpg

http://jmlpictures.com/upload/_-6.jpg

http://jmlpictures.com/upload/_-7.jpg

Josh

and that is why i dont want to open my engine to see my pistons cause i will want to replace them ........ when stuff looks like that i jsut cant but help and want to fix it.

ORIGINAL: readimag

and that is why i dont want to open my engine to see my pistons cause i will want to replace them ........ when stuff looks like that i jsut cant but help and want to fix it.


Tis the price we pay for having old cars.



I knew it was the w/m kit ever since the first posts. That stuff just isn't cool. [&o]

ORIGINAL: audi ops

ORIGINAL: readimag

and that is why i dont want to open my engine to see my pistons cause i will want to replace them ........ when stuff looks like that i jsut cant but help and want to fix it.


Tis the price we pay for having old cars.



I knew it was the w/m kit ever since the first posts. That stuff just isn't cool. [&o]



AUDI OPS... and I knew he bent valves and possibly f'd uppistons... We kick ass at online diagnostics... haha... I didn't think that something fell into the motor, but I did think that the water might have caused premature detonation and screwed stuff up permanently.

NOW... thepaintballguy...

If you had serious cash I would say - BORE and STROKE it up to 2.8 or 2.9 liters...!!! Then take it to VAST and have themputTWO 25/or/28's on there and make 500+ hp...

If you don't have the cash, just get k04's, and save up for fueling and the rest later...

Your custom single turbo talk just shows how little you really know about cars and motors,and no hard feelings with that comment, but it is the truth, and the truth sometimes is mean...

Shawn

Thanks...

We actually have the entire thing designed already.

BUT I have decided to just replace the K03's and sell the car. I don't have the money for this thing anymore. I will just get a little beater and possibly a bike for the summer. Then late summer I am planning on joining the Air Force so I wouldn't be around to drive it anyways.

Josh

what are you talking about there is lots of time in the air force to have time for car. I would just keep it and you the money from the military to do what ever you want. plus if you do go over seas you get really really nice pay and it is easy to build up the car.

ORIGINAL: ThePaintballGuy

We actually have the entire thing designed already.



I'm in the process of building... otherwords making from scratch a 1500 lb racecar that I'm going to use the Audi S4 V6 2.7 engine for... I would be interested to see what you have drafted up.

Shawn

What job do you want in the Air Force? I'm in and I'm security forces I dont reccomend that job at all you deploy all the time. I mean when you deploy the money is nice, I made 20k from my last one but I was also gone for 10 months, not worth it in my opinion. Well man good luck with your car, and the Airforce when you decide to join.

Thanks. I am not exactly sure what I will be doing yet but I am going to be talking to a recruiter this week hopefully.

Josh

Josh I am interested and waiting to see your single turbo design... whats up?

Basically we would have put the turbo on the passenger side of the engine. It would go where the stock air box would be. THen we would run the exhaust piping around the back side of the engine from the drivers side then go into a Y pipe and connect with the passenger side exhaust then to the turbo. After that it would go back out and down the side out the back of the car.

The cold side would be really simple to do as well.

However since I have decided to sell the car I am not going to be building it. Maybe later down the read I will if I get another S4.

Josh

I'm not confined to the specs or spaceof an S4 engine bay, sense I'm building a chromoly tube frame.

IMO there are two reasons to why no one or at least the major majority of people don’t do single turbo on the S4.

- Oneis the ability because of how tight the engine bay is to have equal length exhaust manifold runners would be pretty much impossible without spending10+ grand and having someone use a CAD program and draft it all out... which is critically important when trying to pump MAX hp from your motor.
- Two is the lag you would induce because of waiting for that massive single turbo to spool.

SIDE NOTE -

The part that kills me is that you are bailing on the car, saying that it is too expensive, and you are just going to get a beater… sounds like your old folks are pushing you out of the car. haha… You just spent a ton of money on a stereo, a chip, whatever else miscellaneous crap you have bought and if you had not f’d with it, and put the stupid water/meth kit then you would have probably had a good car. Live and Learn…

Yeah I know... It kills me that i am getting out of the car too. But it's the right choice. As for the extra parts, I did spend a LOT on the stereo but I am taking that out of the car when I sell it. The chip I got for really cheap and the W/M kit was 300 with the group buy... must have been the worst 300 I have ever spent... now it's costing me a freaking butt load!

Josh

YAY! I am finally able to start putting my car back together! I started working on it yesterday. Should be done by friday or monday at the latest! WHOO HOO!

Josh

Congrats

Why in the hell would you blame the W/I company for your inability to install a simple spray nozzle? If you go into the Air Force make damn sure you don't get into the repair/maintenance field. Last thing we need is helicopters and airplanes falling out of the sky...

did you read the whole post, or did you just comment on what he said there was no directions in the box. Plus if you have never installed no2 or w/m how would you really know what you are doing.

WHOOOT I have my car back!!!!! It only took one month, 2 weeks, and 3 days! HAHA.

Car runs great! No weird noises from the turbos or anything... however I do get really random misfires that happen for a few sec then go away again. It's cylinders 3 and 6 (to rear cylinders). I think it's just the spark plugs because I can tell the car is running really rich when it does (there is smoke/water dripping from the exhaust when it does it). Anything else I should look at?

Josh

Glad you got the car back bro. Are you going to still going to get rid of it or keep it?

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Why in the hell would you blame the W/I company for your inability to install a simple spray nozzle? If you go into the Air Force make damn sure you don't get into the repair/maintenance field. Last thing we need is helicopters and airplanes falling out of the sky...



way to make your first post... [sm=chairshot.gif]

Let's just say I know a lot more about this than it appears. I have no respect for richie kids who think they know how to work on cars.

ORIGINAL: rennwagen

Let's just say I know a lot more about this than it appears. I have no respect for richie kids who think they know how to work on cars.

ORIGINAL: rennwagen

Let's just say I know a lot more about this than it appears. I have no respect for richie kids who think they know how to work on cars.



So thinking I know how to replace a turbo and actually doing it with out any problems and it running great is me not knowing how to do it? Hmm... It was a little mistake that ended up costing me money. There are NO instructions on how to install the nozzle the correct way and there are a few other people who have done it the same way I have without any problems.

Also if you say you know more than it appears what do you actually know?

Josh

i will edit later

These forums to many is like a Home away from Home... and the last thing we need is some idi0t newbie going around disrespecting our members... Josh, aka Paintballguy has been here for quite some time now and is usually very helpfull.... you on the other hand need to learn how to make better post or find another forum to put people down. thanks

Thanks for the post. Your awesome! Wish I was still in Cali with you guys so I can cruz! HAHA

Josh

So are you keeping the car now, or going to sell it still?