Is 2.0T Quattro really coming to the U.S.??
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RE: Is 2.0T Quattro really coming to the U.S.??
ORIGINAL: eltonsi
2009, from a pretty reliable source. Then again 2010 is the new one.
2009, from a pretty reliable source. Then again 2010 is the new one.
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RE: Is 2.0T Quattro really coming to the U.S.??
Since I'm driving a new '08 Eos that seems to be similar to the A3 (my stepson just bought one), I thought I might step into this thread with a few words. As you may or may not know, the Eos is a bigger seller in the UK and Germany. I was on a UK website looking at the European Eos and saw they also have the option for the 2.0TDI along with the 2.0T. I assume they are similar if not the same engines that go into the A3.
I noted that performance, the Eos 2.0TDI takes slightly over 10 seconds (0-60 MPH) while the gas model does it in around 7 seconds. I think one of my other cars (I guess I should say it's my wife's car) is a Prius and it clocks in 0-60 MPH just over 10 seconds also. I have to tell you that this is SLOW acceleration and certainly would not satisfy most Eos or A3 drivers unless the gas mileage is their main turn-on. I hate to drive the Prius even though it gets just under 50 MPG
At 15000 miles annually, IF the 2.0TDI go 45 MPG and if the A3/Eos got 30 MPG, the diesel drivers will save about 170 gallons a year or at $3 per gallon, about $40 a month. Of course, if you drive more miles, you would save more and less miles, you would save less. Since I'm in the less than 15000 mile club. I'm sure not considering going the D route anytime soon for less than $40 a month. Now, if gas gets to $4 or $5 a gallon, maybe I'll buy one of these SLOW beaters myself if they are ever imported.
I noted that performance, the Eos 2.0TDI takes slightly over 10 seconds (0-60 MPH) while the gas model does it in around 7 seconds. I think one of my other cars (I guess I should say it's my wife's car) is a Prius and it clocks in 0-60 MPH just over 10 seconds also. I have to tell you that this is SLOW acceleration and certainly would not satisfy most Eos or A3 drivers unless the gas mileage is their main turn-on. I hate to drive the Prius even though it gets just under 50 MPG
At 15000 miles annually, IF the 2.0TDI go 45 MPG and if the A3/Eos got 30 MPG, the diesel drivers will save about 170 gallons a year or at $3 per gallon, about $40 a month. Of course, if you drive more miles, you would save more and less miles, you would save less. Since I'm in the less than 15000 mile club. I'm sure not considering going the D route anytime soon for less than $40 a month. Now, if gas gets to $4 or $5 a gallon, maybe I'll buy one of these SLOW beaters myself if they are ever imported.
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RE: Is 2.0T Quattro really coming to the U.S.??
I guess you can "torque" your diesel all you want. You can also "chip" it all you want. The fact remains that there is still going to be a performance gap between a chipped diesel and a chipped gas model and probably between a chipped diesel and a stock gas model.
Also, my driving cost comparison above is flawed since I didn't take into consideration that the average price of diesel in the US is 30 cents a gallon more which should reduce the monthly cost difference to around $35 verses the $40 figure mentioned above. Added to that is the chance that a diesel powered car MAY cost more. For a little over a buck a day, I'm taking the gas route.
Certainly, if a person is a high annual mileage driver, the savings driving a diesel would be greater.
So,"amancallede", you can probably torque your way up to around 20-25 MPH with me off the line, but then it's "bye-bye" time as I pull away.
Also, my driving cost comparison above is flawed since I didn't take into consideration that the average price of diesel in the US is 30 cents a gallon more which should reduce the monthly cost difference to around $35 verses the $40 figure mentioned above. Added to that is the chance that a diesel powered car MAY cost more. For a little over a buck a day, I'm taking the gas route.
Certainly, if a person is a high annual mileage driver, the savings driving a diesel would be greater.
So,"amancallede", you can probably torque your way up to around 20-25 MPH with me off the line, but then it's "bye-bye" time as I pull away.
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RE: Is 2.0T Quattro really coming to the U.S.??
I'm not saying that a tdi would keep up at all. What I am saying, is that the tdi (new diesel engines in general) ain't your daddy's diesel. You can get decent performance, and exceptional longevity out of a diesel.
I have a friend with an 06 crew cab F250 (Bank's chipped) that will runmid 13s consistantly, with the occasional trip into the low 13's. Granted, it's a much larger engine, but it is also moving around a much larger, heavier, less aerodynamicvehicle.
I have a friend with an 06 crew cab F250 (Bank's chipped) that will runmid 13s consistantly, with the occasional trip into the low 13's. Granted, it's a much larger engine, but it is also moving around a much larger, heavier, less aerodynamicvehicle.