Has anyone installed either of these themselves? If so, do you need a lift and how hard was it?

Any DIY instructions?

 

i heard its like an 8 hr. job if you've never done it before. pretty complicated I think.

 

i did mine suspention install in 9hrs but its because it was my first time and i used make shift HAND tools no power tools, theres a thread on audiworld i belive the guy has pics

 

just replaced my front shock inserts to gas struts 10 hours all in with lots of coffee and cigys I was totally buggered after it but the car drives like a saint so it was worth it, every bolt was a pig to remove now its the rear ones in a few weeks

 

If you're removing suspension xomponents in a nothern climate a torch will be a lifesaver.

 

i have done both and neither are really that hard. sometimes people have trouble with the pinch bolt on the front suspension. but the hardest part for me was compressing the springs because all ihad was a manual compresser.

 

you need one of these
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...mpressor&hl=en

 

It took me around 4 hours to do one lower control arm... but 3 hours were involved with poping the ball joint out and installing the bolt in the inner part (it was the lower front left arm). I have heard of around 8 hours for all front arms.