I'm going to SC my 12V 2.8
look up All European Autowerk in Kent WA (open M-F 9-5 PST).... that video was done with stock ECU... now its in the process of going stand alone. should be done this week im going to try and get some pics.. but its going to run a lot better, will try and get a vid of it with stand alone
Oh yea, if I trade it in or something then it's 1-2k.
Depending on the FM setup it could be cheaper or more.
I can't find a stand alone system so I'd have to assume it's a little more than most would want to spend, let's just throw a ballpark of say 2k for the FM alone.
If I were to use a MAF trick, an SAFC, APFR and HP Fuel Pump. It would be less than 1k. But like I said this isn't efficient enough for me.
So with a stand alone, around 4-6k...not worth it in my opinon
With the aforementioned setup, ~2500. Worth it, but not efficient enough for me
A 30V SC kit is what 5k? I could do it for MUCH MUCH MUCH less than that. Same pieces I would use for the 12V in a PES G1 style but with correct FM.
Depending on the FM setup it could be cheaper or more.
I can't find a stand alone system so I'd have to assume it's a little more than most would want to spend, let's just throw a ballpark of say 2k for the FM alone.
If I were to use a MAF trick, an SAFC, APFR and HP Fuel Pump. It would be less than 1k. But like I said this isn't efficient enough for me.
So with a stand alone, around 4-6k...not worth it in my opinon
With the aforementioned setup, ~2500. Worth it, but not efficient enough for me
A 30V SC kit is what 5k? I could do it for MUCH MUCH MUCH less than that. Same pieces I would use for the 12V in a PES G1 style but with correct FM.
They are the most knowledgeable about the engine. They just know that it is not especially feasible to supercharge the 12 valve due to engine management issues already stated.
Yep, I understand, they were helpful on my other questions if I can get it at cost it's well worth it IMO.
I love working on my car, so even if I had a 30V. I would still make my own kit. Not only for the versatability of picking exactly what I want, but it would be cheaper.
Lysolms are $$$$, M series chargers are cheap. So if the unfortunate happened, and the charger seizes up or the bearings take big ****, I can get another for less than >$200. They sell all day on ebay. I'd end up buying two. One to use, one to rebuild, then swap em out and rebuild the other. Then resell it for twice what I paid.
I recently did something like that with a few turbos I had. I had a 42/48 T3 on my project, I deceided it was time to upgrade so I bought a 60/63 T3, swapped the compressor housings/wheels and rebuilt the 42/48 and upgraded it to a 60/48. Then I sold the other non rebuilt left overs for $155. Then I lost intrest and sold the other rebuilt unit for 325. All in all I came out on top.
If I find a reasonable place that sells management I would start making kits for the 12V guys.
I love working on my car, so even if I had a 30V. I would still make my own kit. Not only for the versatability of picking exactly what I want, but it would be cheaper.
Lysolms are $$$$, M series chargers are cheap. So if the unfortunate happened, and the charger seizes up or the bearings take big ****, I can get another for less than >$200. They sell all day on ebay. I'd end up buying two. One to use, one to rebuild, then swap em out and rebuild the other. Then resell it for twice what I paid.
I recently did something like that with a few turbos I had. I had a 42/48 T3 on my project, I deceided it was time to upgrade so I bought a 60/63 T3, swapped the compressor housings/wheels and rebuilt the 42/48 and upgraded it to a 60/48. Then I sold the other non rebuilt left overs for $155. Then I lost intrest and sold the other rebuilt unit for 325. All in all I came out on top.
If I find a reasonable place that sells management I would start making kits for the 12V guys.


