TO CHIP or Not TO CHIP!!
does anyone know a a good shop in nyc or CT?
the chip sounds too good to be true.. what are the downsides really... i'm assuming:
-paying more for gas
-premature engine wear
-greater emissions
anyone want to list a comprehensive list of pros and cons?? if it hasn't been done already it sounds like a sticky to me!
the chip sounds too good to be true.. what are the downsides really... i'm assuming:
-paying more for gas
-premature engine wear
-greater emissions
anyone want to list a comprehensive list of pros and cons?? if it hasn't been done already it sounds like a sticky to me!
From what I've heard in my research (not my actual experience). My S4 gets GIAC'd on Friday
I can't wait!
Pro: Slight increase in gas mileage if you can keep your foot out of it
Con: You can't keep your foot out of it.
Pro: More power and all that jazz (duh)
Con: Higher boost and your inability to keep your foot out of it cause the turbos to wear a little faster
Pro: You get to replace your K03s a little sooner with K04s!
Con: You have to buy a new flash/chip for the K04s
Pro: Free upgraded tune if you get the fuel kit on your K03s.
I can't wait!Pro: Slight increase in gas mileage if you can keep your foot out of it
Con: You can't keep your foot out of it.
Pro: More power and all that jazz (duh)
Con: Higher boost and your inability to keep your foot out of it cause the turbos to wear a little faster
Pro: You get to replace your K03s a little sooner with K04s!
Con: You have to buy a new flash/chip for the K04s
Pro: Free upgraded tune if you get the fuel kit on your K03s.
ORIGINAL: Teutonic2.7T
does anyone know a a good shop in nyc or CT?
the chip sounds too good to be true.. what are the downsides really... i'm assuming:
-paying more for gas
-premature engine wear
-greater emissions
anyone want to list a comprehensive list of pros and cons?? if it hasn't been done already it sounds like a sticky to me!
does anyone know a a good shop in nyc or CT?
the chip sounds too good to be true.. what are the downsides really... i'm assuming:
-paying more for gas
-premature engine wear
-greater emissions
anyone want to list a comprehensive list of pros and cons?? if it hasn't been done already it sounds like a sticky to me!
PROS.
1.) 70 extra hp = Speed = more fun to drive
CONS
1.) Voids any warranty that you might have (about $1700-$2400 for a aftermarket warranty)(Dealer Warranty). http://www.giacusa.com/faq.php(Question #6)
2.) Deal won't installed (if your a dealer person like me)
3.) You might lose money, $500-$1000 for the chipif the dealer flash it and $1700-$2400 for the warranties
4.) Engine strain which can led toengine problemsand without a warranty equals a whole lot of money
5.) Need to upgrade your brake system so you can stopthe 4000 lbs cars
6.) You must replace the throttle boby boot ($40-$60 or$300 for a bipipe)and the diverter valves ($40-$150)(x2)
ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot
PROS.
1.) 70 extra hp = Speed = more fun to drive
CONS
1.) Voids any warranty that you might have (about $1700-$2400 for a aftermarket warranty)(Dealer Warranty). http://www.giacusa.com/faq.php(Question #6)
2.) Deal won't installed (if your a dealer person like me)
3.) You might lose money, $500-$1000 for the chipif the dealer flash it and $1700-$2400 for the warranties
4.) Engine strain which can led toengine problemsand without a warranty equals a whole lot of money
5.) Need to upgrade your brake system so you can stopthe 4000 lbs cars
6.) You must replace the throttle boby boot ($40-$60 or$300 for a bipipe)and the diverter valves ($40-$150)(x2)
PROS.
1.) 70 extra hp = Speed = more fun to drive
CONS
1.) Voids any warranty that you might have (about $1700-$2400 for a aftermarket warranty)(Dealer Warranty). http://www.giacusa.com/faq.php(Question #6)
2.) Deal won't installed (if your a dealer person like me)
3.) You might lose money, $500-$1000 for the chipif the dealer flash it and $1700-$2400 for the warranties
4.) Engine strain which can led toengine problemsand without a warranty equals a whole lot of money
5.) Need to upgrade your brake system so you can stopthe 4000 lbs cars
6.) You must replace the throttle boby boot ($40-$60 or$300 for a bipipe)and the diverter valves ($40-$150)(x2)
1- not necessarily true. Never had an issue with AUDi or Aftermarket warranty.
2- I don't understand your #2
3- Your shopshould reflash it. YOu bough the right tot hat software
4- Not that nuch of a strain to the engine itself. TURBOS maybe a little, a lot if yuo don't maintain it and beat it up and don't do the warmups/coold down.... there are a lot fo chipped 2.7 with > 100k miles JUST follow the above and upgrade your DVS to N710 for $80 and a SMACO TBB or APR bipipe... YOu'll address most of your concerns
5- ??? YUO can but don't have to... it is not like you're addnig 500hp
But better pads and $150 SS brake lines help 
6- Good idea to do so but even if yuo pay 500 or 60 for the chip and 140 for DVs and TBB, that's a steal for 70hp and 120+lb TQ IMO
I checked my TBB the other day and found that it was starting to wear at the clamp. I flipped the sharp part of the clamp to fresh rubber and reinstalled the TBB. I guess maybe I'm a little cheap. Instead of the BiPipe upgrade I found a silicon TBB for around $67. I'll pick up some new hose clamps from AutoZone and slap that on there and save the rest of the $290 for something else.
friends, friends friends... what i meant was to continue our healthy argument of the pros and cons of chipping,draft a comprehensive list based on everyones input then post it. tha abbot's repost was a little too early; sorry for the misunderstanding.
So, from what i see here we have:
Pros:
- 70 extra hp
- Acceleration, beat-out other drivers
- fun spirited driving experience
Cons:
-paying more for gas
-premature engine wear
-greater emissions
- may void your warranty
- not cheap, and if you dont diy, you must go to an indy shop.. not for the weak-of-heartDealer Only types
-Should upgrade your brake system so you can stopthe 4000 lbs car
- You must replace the throttle body boot ($40-$60 or$300 for a bipipe)and the diverter valves ($40-$150)(x2)
EVERYONE, what do we add? what is unnecessary? - can we get some experts over here!! tech certified?
also, who has a full list of what is needed for a chip. piggies, breaks, ko4's etc.
So, from what i see here we have:
Pros:
- 70 extra hp
- Acceleration, beat-out other drivers
- fun spirited driving experience
Cons:
-paying more for gas
-premature engine wear
-greater emissions
- may void your warranty
- not cheap, and if you dont diy, you must go to an indy shop.. not for the weak-of-heartDealer Only types
-Should upgrade your brake system so you can stopthe 4000 lbs car
- You must replace the throttle body boot ($40-$60 or$300 for a bipipe)and the diverter valves ($40-$150)(x2)
EVERYONE, what do we add? what is unnecessary? - can we get some experts over here!! tech certified?
also, who has a full list of what is needed for a chip. piggies, breaks, ko4's etc.
I'm with Tuetonic2.7T. I wanna hear more horror stories and the kind of stories that put silly little smirks on your faces when you leave other high end cars in the dust. I am going down tomorrow to my local APR rep... (in reply to hey51515 comment's) this is our local APR shop.
Carlos Performance
842 Red Lion Road
Suite 21
Philadelphia,PA19115
I am going to try to get him to flash me for an hour or so. If not, I still am curious to see whatall the logistics are behind the upgradefor the direct port software (if applicable).
I'll let you guys know how I made out. Hopefully, I'm the one with the silly little smirk onhis face tomorrow!
Carlos Performance
842 Red Lion Road
Suite 21
Philadelphia,PA19115
I am going to try to get him to flash me for an hour or so. If not, I still am curious to see whatall the logistics are behind the upgradefor the direct port software (if applicable).
I'll let you guys know how I made out. Hopefully, I'm the one with the silly little smirk onhis face tomorrow!
ORIGINAL: Coors
I'm with Tuetonic2.7T. I wanna hear more horror stories and the kind of stories that put silly little smirks on your faces when you leave other high end cars in the dust. I am going down tomorrow to my local APR rep... (in reply to hey51515 comment's) this is our local APR shop.
Carlos Performance
842 Red Lion Road
Suite 21
Philadelphia,PA19115
I am going to try to get him to flash me for an hour or so. If not, I still am curious to see whatall the logistics are behind the upgradefor the direct port software (if applicable).
I'll let you guys know how I made out. Hopefully, I'm the one with the silly little smirk onhis face tomorrow!
I'm with Tuetonic2.7T. I wanna hear more horror stories and the kind of stories that put silly little smirks on your faces when you leave other high end cars in the dust. I am going down tomorrow to my local APR rep... (in reply to hey51515 comment's) this is our local APR shop.
Carlos Performance
842 Red Lion Road
Suite 21
Philadelphia,PA19115
I am going to try to get him to flash me for an hour or so. If not, I still am curious to see whatall the logistics are behind the upgradefor the direct port software (if applicable).
I'll let you guys know how I made out. Hopefully, I'm the one with the silly little smirk onhis face tomorrow!


