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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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im looking for an hdtv that will do 1080p about 27-30 inches has an hdmi port for my xbox and is a tube tv. i dont want to spend 1k on a lcd or plasma. is this possible? and its 1080p that much better then 1080i? i have found lots of 1080i's but no p's.
 
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Currently, no CRT monitors are made to reproduce a vertical resolution greater than 1080i, and it is not likely that the technology will be advanced any further for 1080p display, since CRT is more or less on the way out (unfortunately).

Most HDsource material these daysis 1080i, which is then converted to 1080p using progressive-scan ora de-interlacing video processor such as Faroudja's DCDi (Direction Correlational De-interlacer) chipset, or similar processors from PixelWorks or Gennum or Silicon Optix. Video is displayed at 29.97 frames/second. However, to reducethe appearance of flickering, each frame is displayedtwice in its alloted time (actual frame rate of 59.94 fps), which is where the difference between interlaced and progressive comes into play.

In interlaced format, each frame is displayedin two halves in its 1/29.97th of asecond- first theodd horizontals, then theeven horizontals (think of it like A1 A2 B1 B2 C1 C2 etc.). In progressive format, the entire frame is displayed twice (A A B B C C etc.), whichproduces a brighter,sharper,clearer image, with drastically reduced motion blur.So basically, if you set your Xbox to output at 1080p and display it on a 1080i CRT monitor, it'll look a lot better than 1080i source on a 1080i monitor. But if you want true 1080p, you'll have to spend the money on LCD or DLP.
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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I have a 32" Philips HD and use the monster brandhdmi cable and the picture and sound is great.
Also, I have the digital TW cable service.
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Go DLP...great for gaming..
but youd really have to go a bit bigger (40in i think) - well worth it though...

& IMO monster HDMI cables are a little overpriced...

its a data / digital signal - not like component / composite.
i went w/ the medium / lower priced HDMI cable - works great...


 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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& IMO monster HDMI cables are a little overpriced...
They are overpriced, and the difference in performance/quality between the monster brand hdmi and other brand......nothing. I got an hdmi cable for under 15 bucks shipped.
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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yup..

like i was saying - in the long run, its really just a digital signal -either it works or it doesnt.

there are other factors that u would benefit from using Monster
- but nothing worth that extra 75$ []

 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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The only benefit you get from using any Monster cable is that you get a nifty little Monster logo imprinted all over the cable.
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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The only benefit you get from using any Monster cable is that you get a nifty little Monster logo imprinted all over the cable.
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Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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In the demo, Monster even proved that good components can offset crappy cables: that PS3 and that Samsung 1080p were able to work around much of the problems, all the more reason why, in a non-custom non-in-wall installation, you should try out the lower grade stuff first.
Cable is cable. Yes, some cables do their job better than others, but they are still cables. What matters is the components at either end of the cable. One of my big beefs with Monster is that every time you hear about how great it is, they talk likethe only thingyou need to make your system great is to use their cable. In practicality, cable is the LAST THING you need to tweak.

If you use some cheap $200 Wal-Mart home-theater in a box setup anda relatively inexpensive1080pTV and upconverting/hi-defDVD player,and hook it all together with $500 worth of Monster cable, the results will be good. But if you spend $1000 on a nice receiver and reasonably good speakers and get a decent 1080p TV anda next-genDVD player,and hook it all together with cheap-o cables, it's going tolook and sound farbetter than the aforementioned Wal-Mart + Monster setup. And if you add Monster cable to the nice setup, the improvement will only be marginal because the system is already quite good.

As for the custom in-wall stuff, yes longer distances bring out deficiencies in cables. And yes it's good to use more durable cables. But if the installation is done well, signal cable runs greater than 50' should be avoided, and cables should be installed in such a way that stress is not constantly applied to any part of the cable length. Also, if you get a new TV you probably ought to replace oldthe cable anyhow - that's like replacing the water pump when you change a timing belt. And if that was considered during the original installation, you should be able to duct tape the new cable to the end of the old one and just pull it through. If your install is big enough that you need a video signal cable longer than 50', you should probably consider a projector anyhow - and then you'll only need a 12' cable.

I'm not saying Monster cables aren't good - I'm just saying spend your money on components first, and be smart about designing your system.
 
Old Aug 8, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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My wife bought the TV and cable without my knowledge. So of course the salesman is gonna push the most expensive hdmi cable they have. But the reception is great, though I had to make some adjustment in the cable box so i only get 1080 in the hd channels.
 



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