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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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just wondering if anyones tried using the double antifouler method vs. relocating the o2 sensors..
I cant weld & dont have access to welding equipment...

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i was hoping this would be a good alternative to relocating the sensors....


 
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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I just used the Vast CEL Eliminators. Worked great for me and took all of 5 minutes to put on.

http://vastperformance.com/shop/prod...products_id=68
 
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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I just used the Vast CEL Eliminators. Worked great for me and took all of 5 minutes to put on.

http://vastperformance.com/shop/prod...products_id=68
great.. thanks - I saw another post about the VAST & they liked it as well..
just plug & play right? into the stock o2 sensor locations...



also - man I feel like such a newb asking this...[&o]
but I have APR programming - I was reading that I might have
to get the tuning updated for the DPs / exhaust once i complete the piggie pipe mod..







 
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Screw that, take it to a weld shop. I Paid a dude $20 to weld up the old bungs and weld in new ones after i drilled the holes and grinded em shiny. Efff the defowler, do it right.
 
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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I agree just weld them in. Anti-foulers are just sending the ECU a false reading. With false feedback the ECU won't know if it's rich or lean toadjust the Air/Fuel correctly in closed-loop. You'd probably get bad fuel mileage while cruising.
 
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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I agree just weld them in. Anti-foulers are just sending the ECU a false reading. With false feedback the ECU won't know if it's rich or lean toadjust the Air/Fuel correctly in closed-loop. You'd probably get bad fuel mileage while cruising.
The secondary oxygen sensors have nothing to do with fuel metering. They only serve the purpose of comparing pre and post cat readings to make sure the catalytic convertors are doing there job. This is strictly an emissions device. Without them hooked up or fooled you will get codes and your car will not pass emissions testing, nothing further. Only your primary oxygen sensors modify your fuel trim.
 
Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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I agree just weld them in. Anti-foulers are just sending the ECU a false reading. With false feedback the ECU won't know if it's rich or lean toadjust the Air/Fuel correctly in closed-loop. You'd probably get bad fuel mileage while cruising.
The secondary oxygen sensors have nothing to do with fuel metering. They only serve the purpose of comparing pre and post cat readings to make sure the catalytic convertors are doing there job. This is strictly an emissions device. Without them hooked up or fooled you will get codes and your car will not pass emissions testing, nothing further. Only your primary oxygen sensors modify your fuel trim.
I stand corrected. Anyone know whythey didn't just place them downstream of the main cat from the manufacturer rather than downstream of the pre-cat?
 
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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I stand corrected. Anyone know whythey didn't just place them downstream of the main cat from the manufacturer rather than downstream of the pre-cat?
..bec the primary o2 sensors are there...& as S obsessed said -
its strictly for emissions to make sure the precats are working...



Thanks again for the input -
I found a place to relocate them to after the main cats...

I agree - better to just get it done right the first time....
From what I hear the DPs are a PITA to remove so
might as well do it right while theyre out...



 
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