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doubletimej 09-23-2015 12:16 PM

A3 TDI Emissions Scandal-How will the eventual software patch affect performance
 
NYT Article about the scandal

I live in a no emissions testing state. On the one hand I want to do the right thing by taking my A3 in once the recall is administered. On the other hand, I know it will affect my performance and fuel economy. My question is, "Does anyone have any actual data about how fixing this problem will affect fuel economy and/or performance of the vehicle?

Just for fun, I posted a poll. Should I get the recall done to my car or not?

sheldon 09-23-2015 12:40 PM

From what I've heard there is no recall yet.. since they have to exactly find out what cars are affected and how they need to correct so that they no longer get in trouble.

Official VW statement (in German) I read today was to wait and not do anything. As pointed out this does not affect in anyway driveability or safety. When and if the recall comes on a mass scale - it will likely change performance to reduce emissions.

Personally I would drag it out as long as possible. Eventually you probably won't be able to avoid it since when the next recall comes that is important or when you do go to an Audi dealership for maintenance of any kind, they will flash/update the software anyways (without your permission).

doubletimej 09-23-2015 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by sheldon (Post 1496497)
From what I've heard there is no recall yet.. since they have to exactly find out what cars are affected and how they need to correct so that they no longer get in trouble.

Official VW statement (in German) I read today was to wait and not do anything. As pointed out this does not affect in anyway driveability or safety. When and if the recall comes on a mass scale - it will likely change performance to reduce emissions.

Personally I would drag it out as long as possible. Eventually you probably won't be able to avoid it since when the next recall comes that is important or when you do go to an Audi dealership for maintenance of any kind, they will flash/update the software anyways (without your permission).

I was planning on getting my car's software tuned to increase performance. I am assuming if it does go in for the recall, that tuning will get nixed. Right?

sheldon 09-23-2015 01:19 PM

If you go there to get a recall - yes. Otherwise if they probably just flag TD1 on your car and might not touch it. TD1 is something they flag cars with that have been modified or tuned in anyway so that they have a great excuse to avoid any warranty work.
They should still perform recalls if requested by customer- but you will have to re-flash the car. Most tuner shops will allow you to come back for a re-flash for free once the dealership overwrites it. I would check with the shop.

roomforelvis 09-24-2015 12:50 PM

Save Current Programming for after recall occurs
 
I am not all up and up on what can and cannot be done with computer flashing, but it would be interesting to see if someone saves the current (illegal code) and then re-flashes their ECM with it after the recall flash has been performed. My guess is that once the legal flash is performed, there are going to be thousands of displeased customers, since their once high-performing and economical vehicles will have been turned into a low-performing, thirsty, POS. My guess is that the market will be flooded with a bunch of diesel vehicles that could barely be given away. :)

John Nerges 09-26-2015 05:23 AM

I cant help but think that the trade in Value of my A3 just hit the floor. Still a great car but it is tainted now.

sheldon 09-28-2015 04:25 PM

@roomforelvis
Of course you can save it and re-flash it (that is if they don't add some checksum code that makes sure that particular flash will not run again). However why bother if you can always just go to one of the big tuners and not only remove the restrictions but open it up wider so it will perform even better than stock (and better mpg)

@John Nerges
I would be surprised if it keeps its value after all of this (and knowing that a flash to fix this issue will lower the car's performance). However if the car is still great and you don't need to sell it, why bother? personally I wouldn't care and even go tune it now, it's not like it can get any worse :D


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