Newbie needs help with A3 tranny options
"Please understand that I'm not saying that the DSG is crap, it is clearly the most advanced automatic available for a reasonably priced street car in the world. It's just that it really is just that, a better Automatic transmission, not a better manual.
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Well spoken, and for sure true, shipo. When you want a manual, nothing else will do - nothing else gives you the feedback, involvement and control of a good stick. DSG is an immensely improved auto, not a manual alternative.
That said, some of the DSG issues you've noted can be overcome with experience, technique, and familiarity. Can't do anything about the redline upshifts, which makes the manual a superior choice for autocrossing, etc. I imagine Porsche willhandle this on their upcoming DSG's bu defeating the redline upshifts in sport mode, leaving just the rev limiter.
"Well spoken, and for sure true, shipo. When you want a manual, nothing else will do - nothing else gives you the feedback, involvement and control of a good stick. DSG is an immensely improved auto, not a manual alternative.
That said, some of the DSG issues you've noted can be overcome with experience, technique, and familiarity. Can't do anything about the redline upshifts, which makes the manual a superior choice for autocrossing, etc. I imagine Porsche willhandle this on their upcoming DSG's bu defeating the redline upshifts in sport mode, leaving just the rev limiter.
I think it depends on your commute too. I had driven a manual for 7 years before my 08' A3. While I love driving a manual, I can't tell you how many times I wish I had an automatic when I was stuck VA-MD beltway traffic. (For those who still have to fight American Legion bridge traffic everyday, God have mercy on you). This is why after 2 years of torturing my clutch leg, I opt for the DSG for a change. DSG makes the A3 an awesome GT. Cruising around never feels so effortless. However, DSG does shift a bit too fast ( to save gas i suppose) on the regular mode and it refuses to shift until it's IN the red while on Sports mode. That being said, I'm still glad that I picked this gearbox, but I also have to admit that downshifting is just not the same or as exciting as driving a manual. The most you would feel is like playing a video game.
Good luck with your purchase. Either way, it's an awesome car =)
Good luck with your purchase. Either way, it's an awesome car =)
I agree with most of the above comments. One thing that no one has mention is that maintenance and repair would very likely be much more expensive for a DSG than for a manual. So, if you opt for the DSG it would be prudent to also purchase the maintenance up to 50K miles. The DSG requires a fluid change at 35K miles, which is an expensive service.
Sounds like shifting into a higher gear at redline could be a problem if you are just about to downshift for a turn, etc. I thought if you were in manual mode it only shifted when you hit the paddle, I guess not. I am beginning to think a 6spd manual is a better choice.
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Sounds like shifting into a higher gear at redline could be a problem if you are just about to downshift for a turn, etc. I thought if you were in manual mode it only shifted when you hit the paddle, I guess not. I am beginning to think a 6spd manual is a better choice.
Sounds like shifting into a higher gear at redline could be a problem if you are just about to downshift for a turn, etc. I thought if you were in manual mode it only shifted when you hit the paddle, I guess not. I am beginning to think a 6spd manual is a better choice.
DSG does upshift for you when you're touching the red and it downshift to 1st if your speed is too slow so stalling is not possible. Personally I do find it willing to go deeper into the red zone on Sports mode than manual mode though.
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