Well if your chip blows your engine, you can go to APR or Unitronic and hold them responsible. Look at the warranty each chip manufacturer provides if you're worried about that kind of situation.

 

I worry about my engine blowing up much less than Audi found out about the chip somehow and void the warranty on a 4 months old car

 

Omni,
True true on the warranty issue! So avoid any chip that lets you alter the software profile by cruise control etc, SUPER easy for Audi to check!

If you truly did blow the motor, well, before you tow the car to Audi, take it to the shop to get it flashed to stock! Additionally, if you buy a reputable chip, your chances of additional problems are low. There are chip manufacturer warranties...but I wouldn't hold my breath that they would come through for you if you needed it.

 

While APR does allow the user to change programs via the cruise control stalk, they also have the security program available, so if you were going with APR, I don't see why you wouldn't throw that in while you were at it, such that the dealer would not be able to activate the different APR modes without your security code.

Unitronic sounds great from a scanning perspective, but everytime I've been to a dealer, they take it out for a quick test drive after they perform the service. I suppose one could ask them not to do that, but I think that in and of itself could raise a red flag for an uncooperative dealer.

All of this said, I'm still on the fence as to which chip to go with. Superchips sounds the best from the stealth perspective, but its unfortunate they don't have local dealers in my area (or more affordable pricing).

 

I was told by a REVO dealer friend of mine that if you go into the dealer with the chip turned off it is impossible to find. Im not sure about all the others although I know superchip is pretty stealth but for $400+ less thank the superchip and a more aggresive feel why not get the REVO and know that you cant get caught(if you turn it off when you go in), they will reflash if something goes wrong and its just a good all around chip. revo gets my vote.

 

I would consider REVO if I were still driving a stick. Among all the audi/v-dub forums i read, REVO just doesn't seem a good fit for the DSG. I don't want a uber aggressive map. A smooth delivery is what I'm after. And of course, stealth.


Every chip dealer claims to be stealth. I suppose they mean VAG-COM scan will turn up clean. I'm trying to find if you can find the chip if dealer plug something straight to the ECU.

 

wait... i have APR chip and has two programs (91 and stock) on it... so if i switched it to stock and bring the car in just for a regular service, would they find out easily?? or should i just get the security code program added b4 i take my car to the stealership?

 

I have a DSG and when I had the REVO demo chip it was a worlds difference, not only did my car seem insane in DSG but in drive it was 1000000% times better. I haven't tried any other chips in my car I only tried REVO because it was a free 5 hour demo and it pretty much sold me.

 

Can't they just flip your cruise control and find out?

 

The cruise control stalkwill not reveal that you are chipped if you have APR's security lock-out feature.In orderfor the dealer to detect the chip, he will have to know your code. Mine is a simple four digit up/down sequence of movements of the cc stalk.

When I visit the dealer, I simply reset it to the stock program and apply the lock-out.

In my opinion,APR's method is superior to REVO because who knows whether the dealer has a SPS switch that they can plug into your car? Someone correct me if I'm wrong; but can the REVO hardware device be used with any REVO chipped car - or is it'keyed' to specifically work with a single vehicle? If not, anyone with the device can plug it into your car to detect the chip flash.

With APR,the dealerwould need to know your unique code. Otherwise, there isvery littlerisk of being detected.