Ok...where to start....

My mind is all over the place as far as modding goes...I keep trying to organize my thoughts and research, but I have becomed snagged....

This is a Chip question....I have two identical stock ECUs...neither of them are chipped, I have been reading about inmotion and i figured for 175$ why not chip my extra ECU, but after further investigation I have found that there is a big inconsistency when it comes down to #s

from what I gather, for my vehicle GIAC is the favor, and inmotion is a no-name yet to be trusted tuner...either way I am primarily looking for function and secondarily looking for value....

My snag is the broadness in expectations (hp/tq increase)

In Motion's website says that you should expect to go from 150hp-207.12 and to go from 165tq-199
On the other hand GIAC says you should go from 150hp-190/200 and go from 165tq-215/245
(i am guessing GIAC's #'s aren't clear because the #'s depend on other mods besides a DV)

Okay, I know alot of you are thinking that i shouldn't even think about going w/inmotion, but my deal is that sometime in the next year i will definately be going KO4 and for now I just want a lil bit more kick without the GIAC pricetag (which will be included in the awe kit eventually)...and besides that if I do have a problem w the tuning from inmotion I do have an extra ecu to swap out

So, now I have a few questions

1- why does inmotion and Giac's torque have such a huge difference?
2-with just a dv what would my realistic hp/tq be?
3-why does GIAC say that you will gain 50-80 ft lbs?....what's with the fluxuation?
4-has anyone dynoed their car w just GIAC and a dv?...what kind of #'s did the car put down?

In general I am interested in GIAC's #s...I plan on doing 2.5" custom exhaust, homebrew fmic, carbonio intake(I know it's a waste, but it's pretty and I want it), new turbo inlet....and all other supporting mods for the ko4 I will eventually install....

Oh, and I am planning on going with the awe ko4 kit eventually and I do know you save $200 on it if you are already running GIAC.... I honestly could take a 175$ hit alot easier than a 455$ hit....I just had to throw down $800 for freakin books!....

thank you for your input, everything and anything you can contribute will definately be appreciated!

 

awhile back I did some beta testing on a TIP chip for them, said I would get a free one out of the deal - I mailed them my ECU and they socketed it the first test chip didn't work so I told them about it - then they got someone closer to them to help them. For a month or two after that I would email asking for an update on the progress. They would always say it would be ready in a couple weeks. after that they stopped responding to my emails. Its been several months now and no response from them.

Go with GIAC - it will be worth the extra $$ in the end.

 

**** man, that sounds like a really fuqed up situation....thanks for your input...I always hate to hear about shady **** like that, they obviously never perfected their tip chip/or did, and no longer needed your help.... either way, I completely understand where you are coming from

but a couple things on my end would be that I am not going to be a ginnea pig...I am just going to get my ecu chipped, which it seems like they have been doing for quite a few years...on top of that i am not concerned at all about down time, since I have a spare ECU they could take a week or two to chip and ship... and I will still have a mobile car

My dilema lies in power...why is the hp higher and the tq wayyy lower than giac....and on top of that what mods are required for the #s that these companys claim to produce with their chips...

I am still looking for personal cases and dyno #'s...I know many of the B5ers on da forum have GIAC, but at the same time I would wager that most of them have not put their car on a DYNO....who I am actually looking for is someone who dynoed their B5 w giac, so that I will have a rough estimate of hp-tq....mainly to compare with inmotion...because if all you get is 190hp/215tq outa giac....and for 280$ cheaper I could get 207hp/199tq....I would definately go inmotion....

so, like I said before, any input is appreciated!

 

if you are going k04, then deffinatly get giac now.. that way when you get your tuning for k04 (im guessing pc-16) its only a 200 dollar upgrade to that program, as opposed to paying the whole 4-500 for an entirely different chip
keep your stock ecu stock, you never know what can go wrong

 

GIAC is well proven, & also a big company that is not going ANYWHERE! Chip tuning is a art & science. After all, the ECU controls EVERYTHING on the motor. Why leave it to a off brand? Sense you have 2 ECU's you can chip it, then when you get the K04 upgrade, sell the chipped ECU, to trade it in.

All the tuners have different numbers, it's due to THEIR own tuning. They are not the same, that is why there are different numbers for them. GIAC is known for being on the aggressive side, this will give you bigger #s then one tuned on the conservative side like APR.

 

Alright...I already knew that GIAC was the favor...

I am going to wait a week or two and drive myself down to sac to have IPB-Autosport chip my car w giac.... I know as you guys have re-stated that GIAC is the smart move, I am just the I want it now kinda person, the only problem is that this last month has been an expensive one for me....it's soo hard to break the "spendin like a drunken sailor" habbit...

so, the next question would be.... I have heard about people having their coil packs go out on them and going into limp mode because of unstable boost (n75 race valve will fix this right?)...ionno.....

If you can't read my sig it's a 1998 a4 1.8TQM

so, I already have a 710N DV, what else should I get/what should I expect to crap out on me? (what problems did you run into after chipping your cars (boost leaks(any hose in particular)))

should I buy
1-a new set of coil packs
2-n75j/h ( I don't know which one)
3-would a colder spark plug help? (right now I am running some cheapy napa ones)
4-I know an MBC isn't necessary, but will it help?...you'll still need an n75 right?
5-turbo inlet (i think I read that the stock one tries to flex shut (right?)
6-I am pretty sure I don't need an fpr w ko3, did anyone have any fuel problems (stressed fuel pump)

My car has 107k on the odometer, I just want to make sure that when it is chipped I do not have any unwanted suprises....like being stuck halfway between sacramento (where im gona get it chipped) and my house in redding.....any and all input will be greatly appreciated

 

coil packs are a non issue on dbc aeb cars

you dont need a new n75
literally all you need to do since you already upgraded the dv, is chip it, and drive it

 

aight...thanks lazer...I was unaware of a difference between coil packs in da dbw aebs and da nbdw non aeb, I just remember reading about a few different cases of peeps havn their coil packs crap out (mad missfires) after chipping, but maybe they all had newer A4s....

ima get da car chipped in da next couple weeks (whenever I find time between work and skoo)...I will let everyone know how da car feels...and I will bring my spare ecu along incase I do end up havin any issues, I'll be able to swap if I have any probs....

would anyone suggest going with a colder plug?...irridium maybe?....I know da gap should be about .028....but as far as the smoothest running/most reliable?

thanks again!

 

stock gap and plug is fine

 

You say you do not way to waste or spend any more money. But yet, you want to throw lots of money into parts you don't need! If they are not broken, you do not need to replace them!

The car will just as reliable if you continue to drive it the same way. The problems come in when people use that new power all the time. If you dog it, things will break, is that really not known?

I did hear that you can get "R" coil packs from Audi, that are a upgrade, but a bit more money. An upgraded N75 would not hurt, just don't expect much.

just get the dam chip & have fun with it!!! After 2 days, you will post about what a moron you were for not doing it faster, & how much you love the new power.