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Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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A girlfriend?
 
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Well, I was referring to a clutch. Your lack of a girlfriend is probably a completely different issue (or non-issue, if you're more of the high-life bachelor type).

Anyhow, to end my streak of smart-*** posts, I'd definitely say a tip-chip is the way to go. Anything's better than stock!
 
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Does these "tip chips" work in the 2008 A4s (2.0T or 3.2)with the Tiptronic AT?
Is it possible to quantify how much improvement these "tip chips" make? If not, how about a rough idea?
 
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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^no. not until they devise a new tipchip for the B8. but from what i've heard their new transmissions are already better than the older ones so maybe it wont need a tip chip

Transmissions: a wide choice
Sporty road dynamics and large-car comfort – these were also the overall objectives for the new A4 pursued by Audi’s transmission developers. The manual gearbox is a new design; the tiptronic six-speed automatic and multitronic continuously variable transmissions have been intensively revised and improved. All these transmissions are notable for their ease of operation and high efficiency, with short, precise lever or selector travel. The transmission layout has been changed for the new A4: the differential is located immediately behind the engine and is therefore now ahead of the clutch or torque converter. Audi uses two types of six-speed manual gearbox on the new model, depending on the required load capacity. Numerous measures have been taken to reduce internal friction. All manual-gearbox versions of the new A4 have a gear indicator integrated into the Driver Information System display. It shows which gear is currently selected and also informs the driver if a different gear would help to reduce fuel consumption. The new A4 3.2 FSI will be available later with 6-speed tiptronic automatic transmission as an alternative to the manual gearbox. The tiptronic transmission has been extensively revised. It responds more rapidly than on the previous model, with shorter shift times, but its high standard of refinement has nonetheless been retained. For the 2.7 TDI, Audi can supply the multitronic continuously variable transmission; this will also be available in the 1.8 TFSI and 2.0 TDI from 2008 onwards. Its power losses, already very slight, have been reduced still further by a number of improvements. The new variator provides wider-spaced ratios. Thanks to a particularly low drive-off ratio, the A4 with multitronic sprints away vigorously from a standstill. When accelerating in the dynamic Sport programmed, eight successive ratios are selected by way of fixed, programmed characteristics, for sporty performance. In the manual selection mode, the driver can select these eight ratios as he or she prefers. Audi has a sporty trendsetter in its portfolio: quattro permanent all-wheel drive. The additional traction, dynamism, driving safety and directional stability it provides are clues to Audi’s proverbial technological lead, as summed up in its slogan ‘Vorsprung durch Technik’. For the new A4, this driveline has a 40:60 torque split and therefore distributes power to the wheels in a sportier, more fascinating way than ever before. The 3.2 FSI and 3.0 TDI have the quattro driveline as standard equipment. The key element in the quattro driveline for the new Audi A4 is a self-locking centre differential. It has an entirely mechanical action and reacts instantly to changes in the driving situation, thus contributing to the car’s sporty, agile road dynamics. In normal driving conditions, it directs 40 percent of engine torque to the front wheels and 60 percent to the rear, but whenever the need arises, the self-locking centre differential takes effect and transmits more torque to the axle with better traction. In this way the new Audi A4 often masters situations close to the traction limit without the ESP/EDL having to intervene, and even if these systems are in action, brake applications are much less frequent.
 
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Does these "tip chips" work in the 2008 A4s (2.0T or 3.2)with the Tiptronic AT?
Is it possible to quantify how much improvement these "tip chips" make? If not, how about a rough idea?
I don't thinkGIAC has come out with a tip-chip for late model A4s yet, and i don't believethe current tip-chip is compatible. May want to contact GIAC directly.
 
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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so.. no effect on B6??
 
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Email GIAC. They should respond to you pretty quickly. If they don't already have a tip-chip out they will shortly.
 
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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I just test-drove a 2008 A4 3.2 with the Tiptronic transmission and was pleasantly surprised. I was expecting it to be like most other Tiptronics...vague, unprecise, hunting, and slow shifting, especially on downshifts. Although I've been a die-hard MT driver for over two decades, the A4's Tiptronic performed well above my expectations with relatively quick shifts and didn't "hunt" badly. The downshifts were relatively quick and smooth.I could live with this new Tiptronic. Anything (such as "tip chip") that could improve it would be the proverbial icing on the cake.I did however find the DSG in the A3 to be better, though but not by a wide margin. The DSG in the 3.2 A4 would be a killer combination. Maybe in the updated model due out next year in the US.
 
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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I just test-drove a 2008 A4 3.2 with the Tiptronic transmission and was pleasantly surprised. I was expecting it to be like most other Tiptronics...vague, unprecise, hunting, and slow shifting, especially on downshifts. Although I've been a die-hard MT driver for over two decades, the A4's Tiptronic performed well above my expectations with relatively quick shifts and didn't "hunt" badly. The downshifts were relatively quick and smooth.I could live with this new Tiptronic. Anything (such as "tip chip") that could improve it would be the proverbial icing on the cake.I did however find the DSG in the A3 to be better, though but not by a wide margin. The DSG in the 3.2 A4 would be a killer combination. Maybe in the updated model due out next year in the US.
Apologies for the naive question here, but what do you mean by "hunting". I just bought the 09 / A4 and this my introduction to "triptonics" (and have previously always driven manual transmission) cars. As far as I can tell if I put the car in "manual" mode everytime I "click up" it upshifts and everytime i "click down" it downshifts pretty much instantaneously. I dont detect any lag at all. (Certainly faster than I think I could w/ a manual).

That said, in "automatic" mode, I think its programming is really weird to be honest (and reminds me a lot of why i dont like automatics) It upshifts way too early (downshifts way too late), i can understand if i never accelerated this would save gas but I think realistically w/ regards to city driving it wastes gas as I end up dumping gas into the engine to get it to accelerate decently.

I do miss having a standard transmission but am hoping I'll get used to it. Its certainly seemlessly/amazingly fast on a straight line 0->60, once you get in the groove of things, but its sometimes hard to know what gear I'm in in w/ regards to general driving.
 
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