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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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Can anybody get me/direct me to an article or posting that validates this sludge business? I am seriously looking into a used A4 1.8t and, well, sludge would just ruin my day.
Thats sort of off topic for this thread. Search "seafoam" and "sludge".
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:58 PM
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ok to stand up for the 2.8 brotherhood i gotta say a 2.8 A4 will take alot of cars in its class even though its heavy.
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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lol...

the only mod thats really worth it for a 2.8 is the neuspeed chip. It gives you 10-15 WHP, and 10lbs of trq at the wheels. Its dyno proven on more than enough cars to call it a legit mod. Its $299 so whether or not you think its worth it is up to you.

And the truth is that the majority of 1.8's on the road and even on this site wont ever beat a 2.8. A chipped 1.8 wont "walk all over" a 2.8 like most people believe. A chipped 1.8 runs a 15.7-16.0-ish in the 1/4 mile... stock 30v 2.8's put down sub 15.5 numbers all day long.

people forget the 30v 2.8 comes with 210lbs of torque.

The main thing that KILLS these cars off the line is the DAM CLUTCH! theyre horrible, they dont grip for SHlT but at the same time it probably allows the clutch to be a lot more reliable.

I have so much to say on this subject I could type for an hour.

how about you come run my tunned 1.8t and we will take a video of it and show which is faster......
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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The intake I have is a ram intake with the same cold air dump coming in from behind the grill with a heat shield as the stock air box with a heat shield. same heat blocking as the stock air box, same cold air. as far as what intakes do. more surface area, less resistance, more air. it isn't that german engineers don't know anything. it's that marketing tells them that they need to keep a quiet car because it's luxurious which is why you also have all that foam attached to the hood. to keep things quiet. so yes with a intake you get more noise because you are getting more air. more air equals more power.
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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The intake I have is a ram intake with the same cold air dump coming in from behind the grill with a heat shield as the stock air box with a heat shield. same heat blocking as the stock air box, same cold air. as far as what intakes do. more surface area, less resistance, more air. it isn't that german engineers don't know anything. it's that marketing tells them that they need to keep a quiet car because it's luxurious which is why you also have all that foam attached to the hood. to keep things quiet. so yes with a intake you get more noise because you are getting more air. more air equals more power.
More hot air = less power. Unless your intake filter is in an enclosed box with a snorkle (ducting) running to it from the grille, then you are not better off. Put your stock air box back in and notice the difference. Its that marketing that convinces ignorant people that they are actually getting added power from overly priced aftermarket POS "cold air intake" that are a ram style andnothing like a true CAI. If you think the stock heat shield is effective, then you clearly are off your rocker.
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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its a 99 30v with 80grand mileage.
im not looking to mod it out for serious racing, im just looking for some more power to beat some 3 series beemers and that lot.
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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lol...

the only mod thats really worth it for a 2.8 is the neuspeed chip. It gives you 10-15 WHP, and 10lbs of trq at the wheels. Its dyno proven on more than enough cars to call it a legit mod. Its $299 so whether or not you think its worth it is up to you.

And the truth is that the majority of 1.8's on the road and even on this site wont ever beat a 2.8. A chipped 1.8 wont "walk all over" a 2.8 like most people believe. A chipped 1.8 runs a 15.7-16.0-ish in the 1/4 mile... stock 30v 2.8's put down sub 15.5 numbers all day long.

people forget the 30v 2.8 comes with 210lbs of torque.

The main thing that KILLS these cars off the line is the DAM CLUTCH! theyre horrible, they dont grip for SHlT but at the same time it probably allows the clutch to be a lot more reliable.

I have so much to say on this subject I could type for an hour.

can u post a dyno? (im legitimately interested)

a chipped 1.8T won't walk all over a 2.8 but it definitely will win. a chipped 1.8T has more power and is slightly lighter.

oh and the 30v has 207 ft. lbs @ 3200 RPM, while a chipped 1.8T makes ~225 ft lbs of tq @2000 RPM. again you lose
i disagree! i ve race my friend's 2000 passat with a 1.8t. he has it chipped (i cant remeber what company made the file) and a few other mods like cone filter and stage (something) clutch. ive raced him atleast 20 times and wins go back and forth, thoughi would say i win more than i lose. iv had him drive my car and he also tells me it defenitly feels faster. now remeber he has a b5 fwd passat which i believe is lighter than an a4. my car has nothing at all done to it other than lowering springs.

edit: his set up
K&N air filter/intake
APR Stage I Performance Chip
ECS RA4 Stage 1 clutch and flywheel

he also has 18' rims so that might slow him down a little bit.

 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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The intake I have is a ram intake with the same cold air dump coming in from behind the grill with a heat shield as the stock air box with a heat shield. same heat blocking as the stock air box, same cold air. as far as what intakes do. more surface area, less resistance, more air. it isn't that german engineers don't know anything. it's that marketing tells them that they need to keep a quiet car because it's luxurious which is why you also have all that foam attached to the hood. to keep things quiet. so yes with a intake you get more noise because you are getting more air. more air equals more power.
dude, take his word for it, he is probably older and i am sure more knowledgable about the subject
+he deals with all kinds of cars all day long....... do a 0-60 video the way you sit right now and then with your factory box, and maybe a k&n drop in filter... then post it
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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whats the best place to get the "neuspeed chip"
 
Old Nov 6, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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it is the same design with more surface area, read the post you quoted.
 



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