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2.7t rough idle + jerking and shaking when accelerating

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Old 04-07-2017, 04:06 AM
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Currently I am stuck with my Allroad 2.7t, car which could have been so great... I have bought the car year ago and since then there was a problem with rough idle. After few months issue with jerking and shaking when accelerating occured (mostly when accelerating gently). Together with this shaking there is a deaf, very quiet "banging" (rubbing?) sound coming from below. It happens both on cold and hot engine. Mostly between 2000-2300 rpm or higher.

I am not sure if those are two different issues, or one causing another.

In the next days I will drive to the company where they repair automatic transmissions, guys should know if maybe it is the torque converter. But if so, why both symptoms occur together? If jerking and shaking is stronger, rough idle is stronger... Also on neutral.
When slowing down, right before stop, engine almost chokes.


When the car was bought there were errors:
P3262 - O2 sensors swapped + all possible O2 sensor errors- voltage too high, voltage too low, malfunction in circuits
Once there was P1857 error.
Always cylinders missfire, starting from 1,2,3, then sometimes it's present in 4,5,6.

So, the Grand Tour of repairs started, what was done:
1. Spark plugs and coils replaced, engine compression checked- it's better that stock actually... Also car has measured 255 bhp.
2. Both front O2 sensors replaced + timing belt replaced + all filters replaced
3. ECU replaced, as it showed some signs of previous repairs (there was some cable soldered, nobody knows why)
4. MAF was checked by unplugging it during rough idle- no change at all
5. There are no signs of vacuum leaks, but this was checked only manualy
6. Then I was told that the o2 sensors were really swapped, I mean the cables were swapped somewhere near the engine, so this was fixed. Also catalytic converters were verified.
7. After that, car was running great for few months and around 1000 km. I installed LPG and problem slowly returned... Both when I'm driving on petrol or on LPG. So there is one advantage of this situation- we know that it's not the injectors, because LPG has its own injectors. Also (but that I am not sure) it will not be the fuel pressure, right?
8. Few days ago there was another issue found- right chain tensioner and chain were not ok, so this was replaced + valve covers and gaskets were replaced.
9. Replaced shaft position sensor

Now, when I delete errors, first what occurs is P1136 after few minutes - Bank 1 system too lean. After some hours of running- cylinders 1,2,3 missfire.
Next are errors P0150 + P1128 + P0130 + P0138.
After deleting the errors car runs normally for about 50km (30 miles if you are outside EU :>)

What is interesting - when I drive the car really hard for around half an hour, all bad symptoms seems to dissapear for another half an hour. But I don't want to ride like a wind all the time (although it's a great fun in this car), no, I just want to find the casue and get rid of it once and for all.

At the top of that, ferret ate my hood insulation lately . I need some serious help here.
 
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:57 AM
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Both front o2 sensors were replaced, and for around 5000 km car was running great.
Now errors returned:

12 Faults Found:
16522 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Signal too High
P0138 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
19718 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2 / B2 S2 Connections Swapped
P3262 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16534 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S1: Malfunction in Circuit
P0150 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16541 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S2: Signal too Low
P0157 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16543 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S2: Response too Slow
P0159 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16514 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Malfunction in Circuit
P0130 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17536 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (Mult): System too Lean
P1128 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
17538 - Fuel Trim; Bank 2 (Mult): System too Lean
P1130 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16687 - Cylinder 3: Misfire Detected
P0303 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16686 - Cylinder 2: Misfire Detected
P0302 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
16523 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Response too Slow
P0139 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent


O2 connections were checked and are proper... What the f** is causing those magical things to happen?
 
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