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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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First off Costner, the goalfor "ME", not the website, "ME" was to let people know that no matter if its Mobil or whatever you wanna put into your cars, its still oil,... check out all the postings about which oil to use on this forum, thats the POINT is was getting at.
I don't recall anyone - ever - suggesting one specific oil was not oil. Yes people have preferences, but you are making it appear that it doesn't matter which simply isn't the case. There IS a difference. I won't debate specifics, but a good oil has a huge advantage over a cheap oil that doesn't include a quality additive package.

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Second Costner, the POINT still stands, ALL oil is recycled, im sorry, cooking oil is not, and if you dumb your motor oil somewhere it's not......when you get your oil changed, what you think they do with it????
Your original statement was "Oil is oil, take the name off and you still got oil, people wanna act like its a difference but it's really not, it's all recycled anyway" which presents it in a matter that you proclaim that it doesn't matter what you buy because it HAS been recycled....which is not true. If you are saying all oil WILL BE recycled that is another issue, but what do we care what happens to the oil after we use it?

The answer? We don't care - we only care about what oil is when we BUY it. You still proclaim "oil is oil" and that there isn't a difference, but everyone with any knowledge of lubricants will tell you there is a significant difference. If you have the opinion that oil is oil then what difference does it make whether you burn generic or $14 a quart European specimport oil? I still fail to agree with your logic, and your own source material isn't helping your argument.

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Third Costner, If you can use re-refined oil vs. virgin oil and its no "REAL" benifit, what make Mobil better then my $3.69 bottle of Castrol that I get at Wal-mart,SORRY, $1.05bottle of Castrol. Full Synthetic vs. Blend....the base word is still"Synthetic" If you wanna waste $6 on oil which is gonna be changes in 3 month anyway, Hey, I'm not gonna tell you how to spend your money.
I don't recall saying Mobil 1 was better than Castrol - but if they are both using a synthetic base then they aren't using re-refined oil. No self-respecting company would trust re-refined oil as their base for a synthetic oilbecause they know there are countless variations of recycled oil blended together, and getting a consistent output from such a mess would be nearly impossible.

Second, if you spend a little more on a quality synthetic (whatever brand you choose) you can run it longer, and you can sleep well at night knowing that hot oil isn't going to be coaked all over the inside of your turbos. Most conventional oils should be changed every 3 -5k whereas a true synthetic (not a blend) can easily reach 10k....some people go 15k, and many in Europe (where they are a tad more trusting of long oil change intervals) will go 20,000 between changes. From that perspective, a quality synthetic won't cost you any more money than a regular conventional oil, and it might preserve your engine a bit longer as well.

It's nothing personal here Cappachinoo - I just wanted to ensure nobody misinterpreted your posts as suggesting if you buy Mobil 1 or Amsoil or Redline etc that you will be getting re-refined oil in the bottle. From my perspective it seemed you were making that suggestion, but it may have been just a poor choice of words that led to the confusion.

In any case I don't think oil is an area you should try to save a few bucks. I don't care what brand a person uses, but everyone needs to use a quality name-brand oil with a known reputation for quality. If you run a turbo, then it goes without saying you need to run a full sythetic or you take the risk with ruining your turbos. Since our cars don't come with turbo timers and they run on the hot side, it just is not worth the risk to run a conventional oil...or even a blend.

Then again, I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money either.
 
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Go ahead Costner, I made my point, I'm not even gonna read what you have to say, I HOLLA
 
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Go ahead Costner, I made my point, I'm not even gonna read what you have to say, I HOLLA
Then why post? If you aren't open to learning then you have no reason to be here. This is a community - nobody has all the answers.
 
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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if funny how people LOVE to mis-read info, to make it to there own benifit. the article is right in your faces and you still can read.the acticle said NOTHING about using 100% of recycled oil.

Like Cappa said.....Mobil, Valvoline, Pennzoil, Castrol, oil is oil and the reason why Audi says the put Mobil oil in your car is because im pretty sure that Audi has a contract with Mobil. That's just like all the 2006 and up Chevy cars and trucks recommend thatthey use BP gas because of the Flexfuel. So you mean to tell me that if you are running out of gas, you are going to wait until you find a BP gas station because my car cant drink shell gas? I know that a lot of you clowns are going to say, " I wouldnt run on a empty tank" i wouldnt either, but i'm just saying.

Exxon vs BP (or Amaco), Castrol vs Mobil....they are all the same, its just the name brand that you like. Point blank, end of story
 
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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2K S4, nobody say"all oil is the same", man, I know you got 10W 30, 10W 40, 5W whatever, I said oil is oil, your 0W 30 to my 0W 30, and I KNOW, I didnt say I was using recycled oil. High-in oil vs. cheap oil, where you get this from,I'm talkin aboutnewvs. recycled oil. I dont know about you, but my cooking oil goes in the trash, This is not Burger King, I dont have a trash truck come pick up my oil...Cooking oil is Bio-Degradeable anyway, it really dont have to be recycled.

This is a case of "The truth Hurts", I'm just stating the fact that OIL IS OIL,Ya'll gettin heated over nothing.

I'm gonna say it again, "The U.S. Postal Service has been using re-refined oil for nearly a decade in its fleet of almost 73,000 vehicles, and even Mercedes-Benz uses re-refined oil in its factory-new vehicles. " So what makes your Mobil better then my Castrol or Valvoline, tell me this and I'll buy you lunch!!!!

THIS POST WAS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ASKING WHICH OIL IS BETTER, THERE IS NO BETTER OIL

 
Old Aug 15, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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My bad Costner, its not personal, I'm just sayin people can buy any brand of oil brandthat they want, it really dont matter.
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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2K S4, nobody say "all oil is the same", man, I know you got 10W 30, 10W 40, 5W whatever, I said oil is oil, your 0W 30 to my 0W 30, and I KNOW, I didnt say I was using recycled oil. High-in oil vs. cheap oil, where you get this from, I'm talkin about new vs. recycled oil. I dont know about you, but my cooking oil goes in the trash, This is not Burger King, I dont have a trash truck come pick up my oil...Cooking oil is Bio-Degradeable anyway, it really dont have to be recycled.

This is a case of "The truth Hurts", I'm just stating the fact that OIL IS OIL, Ya'll gettin heated over nothing.

I'm gonna say it again, "The U.S. Postal Service has been using re-refined oil for nearly a decade in its fleet of almost 73,000 vehicles, and even Mercedes-Benz uses re-refined oil in its factory-new vehicles. " So what makes your Mobil better then my Castrol or Valvoline, tell me this and I'll buy you lunch!!!!

THIS POST WAS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ASKING WHICH OIL IS BETTER, THERE IS NO BETTER OIL
Again, you are so far off base.
You can not get 0w recycled oil, only GRP 3 & above can get down to 0w. So, your theory is all 10-40 is the same? Do, you really believe this? Go to any auto parts store, buy a few quarts of the same weight from different companies. Open them up & just put your finger in there, smell it, rub it in the fingers. They will all feel different. Then take a cooking pan you don't care about & put it on the stove, time how long it takes for the oil to burn, the lower $$ stuff will burn faster then the high end. Lastly, find some used cans, take the oil & put it on the can, time how long it takes to drip off, this is testing film strength, again, the higher end oil, will cling longer.

Oil, is NOT oil, you get what you pay for.

Fleet vehicles are not the same as your TT Audi. I would bet they are using secondary oil filtration, & have shorter drain intervals. Show me any documentation that Benz is used recycled oil in new cars, if they are it's for the break in fluid, & change out quite quickly, I know they use the same oil standards as Audi.
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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2K S4, nobody say"all oil is the same", man, I know you got 10W 30, 10W 40, 5W whatever, I said oil is oil, your 0W 30 to my 0W 30, and I KNOW, I didnt say I was using recycled oil. High-in oil vs. cheap oil, where you get this from,I'm talkin aboutnewvs. recycled oil. I dont know about you, but my cooking oil goes in the trash, This is not Burger King, I dont have a trash truck come pick up my oil...Cooking oil is Bio-Degradeable anyway, it really dont have to be recycled.

This is a case of "The truth Hurts", I'm just stating the fact that OIL IS OIL,Ya'll gettin heated over nothing.

I'm gonna say it again, "The U.S. Postal Service has been using re-refined oil for nearly a decade in its fleet of almost 73,000 vehicles, and even Mercedes-Benz uses re-refined oil in its factory-new vehicles. " So what makes your Mobil better then my Castrol or Valvoline, tell me this and I'll buy you lunch!!!!

THIS POST WAS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ASKING WHICH OIL IS BETTER, THERE IS NO BETTER OIL
Again, you are so far off base.
You can not get 0w recycled oil, only GRP 3 & above can get down to 0w. So, your theory is all 10-40 is the same? Do, you really believe this? Go to any auto parts store, buy a few quarts of the same weight from different companies. Open them up & just put your finger in there, smell it, rub it in the fingers. They will all feel different. Then take a cooking pan you don't care about & put it on the stove, time how long it takes for the oil to burn, the lower $$ stuff will burn faster then the high end. Lastly, find some used cans, take the oil & put it on the can, time how long it takes to drip off, this is testing film strength, again, the higher end oil, will cling longer.

Oil, is NOT oil, you get what you pay for.

Fleet vehicles are not the same as your TT Audi. I would bet they are using secondary oil filtration, & have shorter drain intervals. Show me any documentation that Benz is used recycled oil in new cars, if they are it's for the break in fluid, & change out quite quickly, I know they use the same oil standards as Audi.
I don't know you if were trying or not but i can smell the fire from that roast! Kill him with knowledge 2K! LOL. Since i do sludge repair jobs on a weekly basis at audi i can see first hand the difference each oil does to our engines, and guess what sludge repairs usually happen at around 60k just out of warranty when people switch to cheaper oils. Go figure...
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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2K S4, You think I care what oils can be recycled????, I really dont
You think I care about testing oils??????I really dont
Did I say I use cheap oil....I told you I use CASTROL, FAR FROM CHEAP, it might not be the ALL MIGHTY MOBIL, but it serves the same purpose.

Documentation on Benz http://www.worldwise.com/recmotoil1.html, the same as I posted up top, then again, I dont care about this either. But it is a fact that Benz's start to run like garbage after 50K miles and that there are one of the most unreliable cars out there, maybe cuz there use recycled oil??????......and before yall get it twisted, I DONT USE RECYCLED OIL

I'm gonna say it again for the 30th time, if there putting recycled oil into whatever they want to, what makes your mobil better then my Castrol......I've been sayin that from day one, yall just tryin to put words in my mouth. I posted the website to give yall summ'em to read, and if yall wanna keep pickin fight........we can go at this all day long.
 
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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I'm glad no one got emotional during that little exchange.

By the way, "beer is beer" because it's all made with hops and barley. No one can tell the difference between an expensive beer and a cheap beer because it is all made the same and goes into the same gastro-intestinal system where it becomes...****.

But you're still not going to catch me drinking MGD Lite.
 



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