Lost to Maxima?
#21
12-24-2007, 08:16 PM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
ORIGINAL: NH_USA
I almost forgot -- there is a difference between quick and fast. Likewise there is a difference between fast for a few miles and fast for a long trip.
In my younger days I wanted quick, later I wanted fast, now I want fast and comfortable.
In case your wondering I am talking about Audis - not women. OK OK both Audis and women
I almost forgot -- there is a difference between quick and fast. Likewise there is a difference between fast for a few miles and fast for a long trip.
In my younger days I wanted quick, later I wanted fast, now I want fast and comfortable.
In case your wondering I am talking about Audis - not women. OK OK both Audis and women
#22
12-27-2007, 10:49 AM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
I have had my problems with Max's too. The two Max's I havelost to were moded, but the non-moded cars!!! I give them the 4-3-4, with this slow "Donkey" Tiptronic...
My next mod will be a swaybar, because that is another factor with the moded Max's. they are usually lowered, and able to corner harder. AlthoughI did watch a guyeat a Jersey wall in PA... hewas doing about 110-115 MPH! It was moded, but he had techanical/mechanical failure. I saw the car when the TTbrought itinto the truck stop in Breezewood, PA. He told me with a shaky voice,i can't see that well a night... I just looked at him and LMFAO...
My next mod will be a swaybar, because that is another factor with the moded Max's. they are usually lowered, and able to corner harder. AlthoughI did watch a guyeat a Jersey wall in PA... hewas doing about 110-115 MPH! It was moded, but he had techanical/mechanical failure. I saw the car when the TTbrought itinto the truck stop in Breezewood, PA. He told me with a shaky voice,i can't see that well a night... I just looked at him and LMFAO...
#23
12-27-2007, 04:30 PM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
ORIGINAL: RedShoeRider
Out of the box, the 4.2 is faster (higher hp and torque, though it is a bit heavier. Great fender flares, too!). Modded, the 2.7T is faster. Of course, modding it isn't that expensive or complicated, so given the price differential, you'd likely end up with a faster, cheaper car with the 2.7T. However (always a but...) the 4.2 is rock-stable, the 2.7T's block sure is, but you eventually will get into turbo replacement with them. There's another thread floating around here about roughly when that replacement is. Then you can go nuts and go with the K04 turbos (from the RS-series cars), yada, yada....but that's a whole 'nuther story.
The biggest problem we have as A6 drivers is weight. Sure, we make a bunch of power. But with all the hardware for the quattro (not to mention that there's plenty of body metal), we're lugging around an extra 400-800lbs compared to other cars in the same class. What we gain in stability from quattro we loose in absolute acceleration due to the weight.
2.8 = great engine, great car, great for driving around, not so great for playing around.
2.7T = for fun. Can mod to the heavens. The most tunable of the family.
4.2 = for raw refined power. Nothing says low-end grunt like a V-8. Bulletproof engine.
Pricing? Around here (North Jersey), for an 01 2.7T you're talking 12-15k, for a 01 4.2 it's something like 14-20k. That's really, really ballpark. MT6 might cost you more, as they can be harder to find.
Out of the box, the 4.2 is faster (higher hp and torque, though it is a bit heavier. Great fender flares, too!). Modded, the 2.7T is faster. Of course, modding it isn't that expensive or complicated, so given the price differential, you'd likely end up with a faster, cheaper car with the 2.7T. However (always a but...) the 4.2 is rock-stable, the 2.7T's block sure is, but you eventually will get into turbo replacement with them. There's another thread floating around here about roughly when that replacement is. Then you can go nuts and go with the K04 turbos (from the RS-series cars), yada, yada....but that's a whole 'nuther story.
The biggest problem we have as A6 drivers is weight. Sure, we make a bunch of power. But with all the hardware for the quattro (not to mention that there's plenty of body metal), we're lugging around an extra 400-800lbs compared to other cars in the same class. What we gain in stability from quattro we loose in absolute acceleration due to the weight.
2.8 = great engine, great car, great for driving around, not so great for playing around.
2.7T = for fun. Can mod to the heavens. The most tunable of the family.
4.2 = for raw refined power. Nothing says low-end grunt like a V-8. Bulletproof engine.
Pricing? Around here (North Jersey), for an 01 2.7T you're talking 12-15k, for a 01 4.2 it's something like 14-20k. That's really, really ballpark. MT6 might cost you more, as they can be harder to find.
#24
12-27-2007, 08:31 PM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot
Not true, out the box the 2.7 is faster http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1848.shtml
ORIGINAL: RedShoeRider
Out of the box, the 4.2 is faster (higher hp and torque, though it is a bit heavier. Great fender flares, too!). Modded, the 2.7T is faster. Of course, modding it isn't that expensive or complicated, so given the price differential, you'd likely end up with a faster, cheaper car with the 2.7T. However (always a but...) the 4.2 is rock-stable, the 2.7T's block sure is, but you eventually will get into turbo replacement with them. There's another thread floating around here about roughly when that replacement is. Then you can go nuts and go with the K04 turbos (from the RS-series cars), yada, yada....but that's a whole 'nuther story.
The biggest problem we have as A6 drivers is weight. Sure, we make a bunch of power. But with all the hardware for the quattro (not to mention that there's plenty of body metal), we're lugging around an extra 400-800lbs compared to other cars in the same class. What we gain in stability from quattro we loose in absolute acceleration due to the weight.
2.8 = great engine, great car, great for driving around, not so great for playing around.
2.7T = for fun. Can mod to the heavens. The most tunable of the family.
4.2 = for raw refined power. Nothing says low-end grunt like a V-8. Bulletproof engine.
Pricing? Around here (North Jersey), for an 01 2.7T you're talking 12-15k, for a 01 4.2 it's something like 14-20k. That's really, really ballpark. MT6 might cost you more, as they can be harder to find.
Out of the box, the 4.2 is faster (higher hp and torque, though it is a bit heavier. Great fender flares, too!). Modded, the 2.7T is faster. Of course, modding it isn't that expensive or complicated, so given the price differential, you'd likely end up with a faster, cheaper car with the 2.7T. However (always a but...) the 4.2 is rock-stable, the 2.7T's block sure is, but you eventually will get into turbo replacement with them. There's another thread floating around here about roughly when that replacement is. Then you can go nuts and go with the K04 turbos (from the RS-series cars), yada, yada....but that's a whole 'nuther story.
The biggest problem we have as A6 drivers is weight. Sure, we make a bunch of power. But with all the hardware for the quattro (not to mention that there's plenty of body metal), we're lugging around an extra 400-800lbs compared to other cars in the same class. What we gain in stability from quattro we loose in absolute acceleration due to the weight.
2.8 = great engine, great car, great for driving around, not so great for playing around.
2.7T = for fun. Can mod to the heavens. The most tunable of the family.
4.2 = for raw refined power. Nothing says low-end grunt like a V-8. Bulletproof engine.
Pricing? Around here (North Jersey), for an 01 2.7T you're talking 12-15k, for a 01 4.2 it's something like 14-20k. That's really, really ballpark. MT6 might cost you more, as they can be harder to find.
#25
12-28-2007, 09:31 AM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
ORIGINAL: Kevin
Again it depends what you are comparing. I am a highway guy, not a red light guy, and the article you linked actually shows that the 4.2 is faster, not quicker off the line, but clearly faster and quicker on the top end. According to your own article, the 2.7t goes from 60 to 92 in 8.5 seconds, while the 4.2 goes from 60 to 92 in 7.7 seconds (the 4.2 goes from 60 to 94 mph in 8.2 seconds, or 1mph in acceleration for every .24 seconds assuming linearacceleration, byreducing the 4.2's 94 mph 1/4 mile speed to the 2.7ts 1/4 mile speed of 92 mph, it is approximated that the 4.2 hits 92 mph .5 seconds before it hits 94 mph (2 mph times .24 seconds) or in approx. 15.0 seconds, since cars are not typically capable at linear acceleration over 60 mph it is likely that the 4.2's time from 60-92 is probably a couple of tenths of a second better than I am estimating). So the 4.2 is nearly a second fasterfrom 60 to 92. In other words, while the 2.7T is winding down when it reaches the speed limit, the4.2 is still pulling.The only reason why the stock 2.7T was .5seconds faster on the bottom end is that it had a MT. So the 4.2 is clearly faster. The 4.2 is also quicker on the top end. The 2.7t'squickness is only useful if you are a boy racer who likes to pull away fromtraffic lights.
ORIGINAL: Tha Abbot
Not true, out the box the 2.7 is faster http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt1848.shtml
ORIGINAL: RedShoeRider
Out of the box, the 4.2 is faster (higher hp and torque, though it is a bit heavier. Great fender flares, too!). Modded, the 2.7T is faster. Of course, modding it isn't that expensive or complicated, so given the price differential, you'd likely end up with a faster, cheaper car with the 2.7T. However (always a but...) the 4.2 is rock-stable, the 2.7T's block sure is, but you eventually will get into turbo replacement with them. There's another thread floating around here about roughly when that replacement is. Then you can go nuts and go with the K04 turbos (from the RS-series cars), yada, yada....but that's a whole 'nuther story.
The biggest problem we have as A6 drivers is weight. Sure, we make a bunch of power. But with all the hardware for the quattro (not to mention that there's plenty of body metal), we're lugging around an extra 400-800lbs compared to other cars in the same class. What we gain in stability from quattro we loose in absolute acceleration due to the weight.
2.8 = great engine, great car, great for driving around, not so great for playing around.
2.7T = for fun. Can mod to the heavens. The most tunable of the family.
4.2 = for raw refined power. Nothing says low-end grunt like a V-8. Bulletproof engine.
Pricing? Around here (North Jersey), for an 01 2.7T you're talking 12-15k, for a 01 4.2 it's something like 14-20k. That's really, really ballpark. MT6 might cost you more, as they can be harder to find.
Out of the box, the 4.2 is faster (higher hp and torque, though it is a bit heavier. Great fender flares, too!). Modded, the 2.7T is faster. Of course, modding it isn't that expensive or complicated, so given the price differential, you'd likely end up with a faster, cheaper car with the 2.7T. However (always a but...) the 4.2 is rock-stable, the 2.7T's block sure is, but you eventually will get into turbo replacement with them. There's another thread floating around here about roughly when that replacement is. Then you can go nuts and go with the K04 turbos (from the RS-series cars), yada, yada....but that's a whole 'nuther story.
The biggest problem we have as A6 drivers is weight. Sure, we make a bunch of power. But with all the hardware for the quattro (not to mention that there's plenty of body metal), we're lugging around an extra 400-800lbs compared to other cars in the same class. What we gain in stability from quattro we loose in absolute acceleration due to the weight.
2.8 = great engine, great car, great for driving around, not so great for playing around.
2.7T = for fun. Can mod to the heavens. The most tunable of the family.
4.2 = for raw refined power. Nothing says low-end grunt like a V-8. Bulletproof engine.
Pricing? Around here (North Jersey), for an 01 2.7T you're talking 12-15k, for a 01 4.2 it's something like 14-20k. That's really, really ballpark. MT6 might cost you more, as they can be harder to find.
What are you talking about? The link it say:
2.7T = 1/4 mile 15.3 at 92MPH, 0-60 6.8 (MT)
4.2 = 1/4 mile 15.5 AT 94MPH, 0-60 7.3
There was no 60-92 test. If you can go from point A-Band get there with a better time anda lower MPH, to me thats saying that the 2.7 is faster.
From what you are saying, the 2.7 power dies b4 the 1/4 miles is over.
#26
12-28-2007, 09:59 AM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
I have a 99 Infiniti I30, basically it's a Maxima. For people who dont know this, The Maxima is labled a Foor door sports cars (4DSC). In the 90's, the Maxima used the non-turbo 300ZX motor and transmission. Now they have the 350/G35 motor and transmission, if he has a manual, its a 6-speed, the same one as the 350/G35. The 2002 Maxima has 255hp and 246 torque not 220hp, the 2000's has 220hp.
#27
12-28-2007, 01:22 PM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
Maximas have always been quick cars. My uncle had the 2000 Maxima 20th Aniiversary edition with 245 horses and a 6 speed manual. it KILLED.
I drive a 2.8 and I know first hand that the car's biggest downfall is first gear. It's just terrible.
I drive a 2.8 and I know first hand that the car's biggest downfall is first gear. It's just terrible.
#28
12-28-2007, 04:15 PM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
I think the A6 is the ultimate sleeper. The exception is the 2.8, where the car is truely asleep. If I had this version, I would think of it as much less of a car for racing as I would a beautiful car with a solid engine and less headache to boot.
#29
12-28-2007, 05:30 PM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
ORIGINAL: Four Ring Circus
I think the A6 is the ultimate sleeper. The exception is the 2.8, where the car is truely asleep. If I had this version, I would think of it as much less of a car for racing as I would a beautiful car with a solid engine and less headache to boot.
I think the A6 is the ultimate sleeper. The exception is the 2.8, where the car is truely asleep. If I had this version, I would think of it as much less of a car for racing as I would a beautiful car with a solid engine and less headache to boot.
#30
12-28-2007, 08:10 PM
RE: Lost to Maxima?
Dude don't even trip you lost to a nissan period. Nissans are my favorite japs. I've had 3 already in less than two years of driving. and I will own 'em for the rest of my life. Currently I have an anniv. Edition maxima manual w/ about 145,000 on the odo and drives like a dream. Even though my 2.7 is pretty well modified the maxima doesn't feel too much slower. Too bad yours is fwd otherwise that would be your advantage in launching off the line if you hold your rpms nicely. Try doing a freeway rally (90+mph) and your lenghty gear ratios will show your vehicle's top speed advantage.....maybe