USA Today Jan 17th pg 48
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also.... and this is just a question, in terms of how advanced the germans are,
where is the german hybrid?
also.... and this is just a question, in terms of how advanced the germans are,
where is the german hybrid?
Top Gear (a British TV show) did a test of a European Audi A8 with the Twin Turbo Diesel V8. Astonishingly, it averaged about 40 mpg on the highway. Not even a Civic/Corolla can match that. It also travelled 800 miles on a single (!!!!!) tank of fuel.
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The new GTR is going to redifine the word "supercar" It completely dominated the Nurburging track with full-out supercar numbers. The Z06 time was pretty far behind the GTR time.
I say go Japan!!
I say go Japan!!
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The new GTR is going to redifine the word "supercar" It completely dominated the Nurburging track with full-out supercar numbers. The Z06 time was pretty far behind the GTR time.
The new GTR is going to redifine the word "supercar" It completely dominated the Nurburging track with full-out supercar numbers. The Z06 time was pretty far behind the GTR time.
I mean, that's faster than pretty much ANY supercar. It's ridiculous. It's kind of "bad" in a sense. Even a Stage III S4 will get completely destroyed by a *stock* GTR. What's up with that...? Vipers, Z06s, Murcielagos, Gallardos, 599GTBs, 911 Turbos, RS4s, R8s all going down in flames?!?!?!!?! WHAT'S GOING ON HERE!!
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The Germans don't really "believe" in hybrids. They have good reason not to, though. Many of their small diesel models (in Europe) get better mileage than the American hybrids. I've seen reports of up to 70 miles per gallon highway for one of the diesel VW Polos. Diesels are also especially popular in Europe because diesel fuel is generally cheaper than regular unleaded there. In the U.S., the opposite is usually true these days, with regular unleaded being cheaper than diesel. I seriously don't understand why Americans don't "trust" diesel technology. I'm an American and I would love it if there were some more diesel options.
Top Gear (a British TV show) did a test of a European Audi A8 with the Twin Turbo Diesel V8. Astonishingly, it averaged about 40 mpg on the highway. Not even a Civic/Corolla can match that. It also travelled 800 miles on a single (!!!!!) tank of fuel.
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also.... and this is just a question, in terms of how advanced the germans are,
where is the german hybrid?
also.... and this is just a question, in terms of how advanced the germans are,
where is the german hybrid?
Top Gear (a British TV show) did a test of a European Audi A8 with the Twin Turbo Diesel V8. Astonishingly, it averaged about 40 mpg on the highway. Not even a Civic/Corolla can match that. It also travelled 800 miles on a single (!!!!!) tank of fuel.
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Yeah, diesel is definately not utilized like it should... i guess there is a reason why all semi's use diesel right? for fuel mileage? I think even new diesel engines get rid of the smoke & smell????
Yeah, diesel is definately not utilized like it should... i guess there is a reason why all semi's use diesel right? for fuel mileage? I think even new diesel engines get rid of the smoke & smell????
The new passenger car diesel engines are VERY good. There's virtually no smoke, no smell, and you don't even hear that classic diesel "clank clank clank" metallic sound. American emissions regulations are SO tough on diesels, though, that most companies don't bother bringing their Euro diesels to the US. That, and what I said before. There is almost no interest in diesels in the American car market. For that reason I've been looking at the Mercedes E320 CDI for my Mom. It gets about 35-37 MPG highway, which is fantastic.
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also.... and this is just a question, in terms of how advanced the germans are,
where is the german hybrid?
also.... and this is just a question, in terms of how advanced the germans are,
where is the german hybrid?
There was a high profile, at least in Europe, give away of "zero emission" BMW 7 series cars on leases.
Here's an article if you are interested. This was back in Nov 2006...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6154212.stm
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Ahhh yes... the great debate. American? Euro? Japanese?
My favorite car brand for YEARS has been Nissan. They are innovative, stylish, reliable, and still edgy enough to make cars like the 1992 Nissan Sentra SE-R, which is a rare yet awesome car if you can find one.
The Japanese are smart... they not only took notice of what American engineers (who by the way are absolutely PHENOMAL despite all this US hatred) and the German engineers (who eventually lost out in the war to our American engineering haha jk) and turned these ideas into cars like the Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, and the absolutley barbaric Skyline GTR-34.
The Japanese, to me, are where cars should be at in this stage of time. Sure, Audi's revolutionized all wheel drive and big V8's made drag racing what it is today, but Japan has done all of that, and still somehow managed not to sacrifice anything they started out with. Their cars are very reliable, cheap on parts, and still contemporary and stylish.
if someone offered me a BMW M5 or an Audi S5 or a Z06 or an Aston Martin or a Skyline GT-R, I'd take the Skyline hands down.
Honestly, the Japanese may not be MUCH farther ahead than the rest of the world's technology, but they are still ahead. Germany and the US are about equal, we just focus on different things.
My favorite car brand for YEARS has been Nissan. They are innovative, stylish, reliable, and still edgy enough to make cars like the 1992 Nissan Sentra SE-R, which is a rare yet awesome car if you can find one.
The Japanese are smart... they not only took notice of what American engineers (who by the way are absolutely PHENOMAL despite all this US hatred) and the German engineers (who eventually lost out in the war to our American engineering haha jk) and turned these ideas into cars like the Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, and the absolutley barbaric Skyline GTR-34.
The Japanese, to me, are where cars should be at in this stage of time. Sure, Audi's revolutionized all wheel drive and big V8's made drag racing what it is today, but Japan has done all of that, and still somehow managed not to sacrifice anything they started out with. Their cars are very reliable, cheap on parts, and still contemporary and stylish.
if someone offered me a BMW M5 or an Audi S5 or a Z06 or an Aston Martin or a Skyline GT-R, I'd take the Skyline hands down.
Honestly, the Japanese may not be MUCH farther ahead than the rest of the world's technology, but they are still ahead. Germany and the US are about equal, we just focus on different things.
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For your information, most of the japanese car thec come from German and American research.... They had just upgrade it..
For sure american car are pretty good, but dont talk about their reputation.... Since the late 90's, they had built good cars, but the american car industry is mostly renowned for his relliable price not for their advance tech or for their engine efficiency.... When you talking about European car, you're talking about technology, efficiency, well made car and overall performance.
Also, stop talking about the Z06 and his supramacy... for sure that the best bang for the buck if you want a pure performance car and you dont want to pay 200 0000000000000000$$$$ but when you're compared the Z06 engine to a F430 engine,, you show me how american peoples are blind!!![8D]
In other words, stop bullshitting!!! The only things that matter at this time for you (american peoples),, is to elected your ******* president and a good one this time please!!!!!!!!!... Sorry for that,, but i had to say this.....
Maybe the american brand built some great V8 and hybrid car, but when your reading articles about fuel efficiency and envirommental respect,, you will understand that the battery thats commin from the hybrid car is more detrimental for the environment when his life ended than the entire pollution that produce a v10 car after 200 k..
For sure american car are pretty good, but dont talk about their reputation.... Since the late 90's, they had built good cars, but the american car industry is mostly renowned for his relliable price not for their advance tech or for their engine efficiency.... When you talking about European car, you're talking about technology, efficiency, well made car and overall performance.
Also, stop talking about the Z06 and his supramacy... for sure that the best bang for the buck if you want a pure performance car and you dont want to pay 200 0000000000000000$$$$ but when you're compared the Z06 engine to a F430 engine,, you show me how american peoples are blind!!![8D]
In other words, stop bullshitting!!! The only things that matter at this time for you (american peoples),, is to elected your ******* president and a good one this time please!!!!!!!!!... Sorry for that,, but i had to say this.....
Maybe the american brand built some great V8 and hybrid car, but when your reading articles about fuel efficiency and envirommental respect,, you will understand that the battery thats commin from the hybrid car is more detrimental for the environment when his life ended than the entire pollution that produce a v10 car after 200 k..
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For your information, most of the japanese car thec come from German and American research.... They had just upgrade it..
For sure american car are pretty good, but dont talk about their reputation.... Since the late 90's, they had built good cars, but the american car industry is mostly renowned for his relliable price not for their advance tech or for their engine efficiency.... When you talking about European car, you're talking about technology, efficiency, well made car and overall performance.
Also, stop talking about the Z06 and his supramacy... for sure that the best bang for the buck if you want a pure performance car and you dont want to pay 200 0000000000000000$$$$ but when you're compared the Z06 engine to a F430 engine,, you show me how american peoples are blind!!![8D]
In other words, stop bullshitting!!! The only things that matter at this time for you (american peoples),, is to elected your ******* president and a good one this time please!!!!!!!!!... Sorry for that,, but i had to say this.....
Maybe the american brand built some great V8 and hybrid car, but when your reading articles about fuel efficiency and envirommental respect,, you will understand that the battery thats commin from the hybrid car is more detrimental for the environment when his life ended than the entire pollution that produce a v10 car after 200 k..
For your information, most of the japanese car thec come from German and American research.... They had just upgrade it..
For sure american car are pretty good, but dont talk about their reputation.... Since the late 90's, they had built good cars, but the american car industry is mostly renowned for his relliable price not for their advance tech or for their engine efficiency.... When you talking about European car, you're talking about technology, efficiency, well made car and overall performance.
Also, stop talking about the Z06 and his supramacy... for sure that the best bang for the buck if you want a pure performance car and you dont want to pay 200 0000000000000000$$$$ but when you're compared the Z06 engine to a F430 engine,, you show me how american peoples are blind!!![8D]
In other words, stop bullshitting!!! The only things that matter at this time for you (american peoples),, is to elected your ******* president and a good one this time please!!!!!!!!!... Sorry for that,, but i had to say this.....
Maybe the american brand built some great V8 and hybrid car, but when your reading articles about fuel efficiency and envirommental respect,, you will understand that the battery thats commin from the hybrid car is more detrimental for the environment when his life ended than the entire pollution that produce a v10 car after 200 k..
where are you from anyways... i bet you live here in the USA, migrated from some hole in the wall of earth and now that you found a computer and the internet, you think your the opinions matter... hahahaha what a joke...
and i do have the right to say the above, because I come from another country and now (thank God) i live in the US of A baby!!!!
This forum is for Audi discussion, not politics.... you want to talk politics go find a forum for that you P.O.S